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basilio said:
I don't know where you get your information Moxjo but this is way off beam. Having said that clearly Trump and co are laying the ground work for destroying confidence/respect in the Judge and any decision that isn't a full and unqualified acquittal including million dollar damages to Donald Trump.


Nicholas Gravante, who represented Weisselberg in the plea negotiations, said Merchan was “a real listener, well-prepared, always accessible, and a man who kept his word.”

"He was mindful of the role my colleagues and I played as advocates, treating us with the utmost respect both in open court and behind closed doors,” Gravante recalled.

news.yahoo.com

Who is Juan Merchan, the NY judge handling Trump's case?

His caseload has featured charges against former President Donald Trump's company and some of Trump's closest associates in business and politics. Now Judge Juan Manuel Merchan is poised to take the historic hush-money prosecution of Trump himself. Trump will appear to answer charges arising...
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Certainly not "Yahoo"
Uh huh you do know he (Nicholas Gravante) is a registered democrat that copped it for representing him?

You want to do business or get cancelled.
 
Knobby22 said:
Being the USA, each day of the court case will be on TV and if anyone cares enough they can watch it all and decide for themselves.
Not going to help the other Republican nominees get any air time.
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And so it begins....
(Not fact checked)
 
basilio said:
The nuts of the 34 felony charges against Donald Trump.
Or How to catch and kill bad stories about Trump and (not) get away with it.

Clearly the 23 members of the grand jury believed the evidence they saw warranted a trial in which the defendent could argue his case

www.abc.net.au

Secret documents in Trump's criminal case have been unsealed. Here's what we learned

The former president surrendered to authorities, was fingerprinted, and appeared before a judge to hear the charges against him. This is everything we learned from the 'People of the State of New York against Donald J Trump'.
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Of course there are alternative views about the case.
heres one from the WSJ via The Australian
The public can now read Manhattan District Attorney Alvin Bragg’s indictment against former President Trump, as well as his more voluble “statement of facts”, but the speculation and leaks of recent weeks were well informed. There are few surprises, except perhaps astonishment that Mr Bragg’s case looks even weaker than we expected.
Mr Trump “repeatedly and fraudulently falsified New York business records to conceal criminal conduct that hid damaging information from the voting public during the 2016 presidential election,” the DA says. The charges are based on the $US130,000 that former Trump fixer Michael Cohen paid to hush up Stormy Daniels about her alleged affair with Mr Trump. Mr Cohen was reimbursed via a monthly retainer “disguised as a payment for legal services”.
The 34 counts in the indictment are each for an individual business record: invoices from Mr Cohen, reimbursement checks from Mr Trump, ledger entries at the Trump Organisation. Mr Bragg has padded the indictment this way to include nearly three dozen counts, but they describe the same conduct. The DA’s statement of facts also brings up Mr Trump’s co-ordination with the tabloid mavens at the National Enquirer to kill other allegations, but this is superfluous window dressing.


Here’s the big question that Mr Bragg still hasn’t adequately answered: Where is the second crime? Recall that falsifying business records is a misdemeanour in New York. It’s a felony only if the books were cooked with “an intent to commit another crime or to aid or conceal the commission thereof.” When Mr Trump worked out this reimbursement arrangement with Mr Cohen, what other crime was he allegedly trying to cover up?
The leading theory going into Tuesday was that Mr Bragg would claim a violation of campaign-finance laws, and he does. The $US130,000 to Ms Daniels “was illegal,” the DA says flatly, noting that Mr Cohen “has since pleaded guilty to making an illegal campaign contribution and served time in prison.” But Mr Cohen’s guilty plea hardly makes this point indisputable, and in fact Mr Cohen seems to regret lately how he handled his case.
He also pleaded guilty to tax evasion. “The lies by the Southern District of New York against me for the tax evasion, I actually hope it comes out,” Mr Cohen told CNN last week. “I have all the documents to show. There was no tax evasion.” Is this the guy Mr Bragg is hoping to make into his star witness?
Brad Smith, a former member of the Federal Election Commission, has argued the money to Ms Daniels didn’t constitute a campaign expenditure. “People pay hush money even if they’re not running for office. They buy clothes, get haircuts, settle lawsuits, make charitable contributions,” Mr Smith wrote on Twitter.
Political candidates also buy clothes, maybe more expensive ones than they otherwise would, but that doesn’t make it a campaign expense.

At a press conference Tuesday, Mr Bragg was given a second shot to explain what other crime Mr Trump was supposedly covering up. The DA cited the federal cap on campaign contributions, as expected. But he also brought up “New York State election law,” which “makes it a crime to conspire to promote a candidacy by unlawful means.” Mr Bragg then mentioned “statements that were planned to be made to tax authorities.” Planned to be made?

After dragging the country through the first indictment of a former President in U.S. history, Mr Bragg owes the public a better explanation of his theory of the case. His unclear and evasive reply Tuesday isn’t helping his cause, and the country shouldn’t have to wait for months to find out the answer. Some news reports say Mr Trump’s next court appearance is probably on the docket for December.
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So the one event got stretched to 34 counts by making each entry about the original payment, the receipts, checks etc into a new count.
Sounds a little like desperation.
i suspect that the democrats will be hoping to keep the court appearances and publicity going for as long as possible.
maybe even into the next presidential campaign.
I an sure there will be plenty of voyeurs watching this unfold on TV.
Personally I have better things to do.
I have recently planted some lawn seed, and the grass will need watching as it grows.
One of the strangest things about all this, is that the sexual meanderings of trump are the best that they can come up with.of trump .
And this from a party whose most revered President, JFK, was known to root anything that had a skirt, including Marilyn Monroe.
And of Course, the classy Bill Clinton was also a well known womaniser, but I can give him some leeway as Hillary was a bit of a dragon, unlike Jacki Kennedy.

Mick
 
moXJO said:
*Conspiracy theory*

So Trump charges were leaked and democrats all got scared and fired up. Suddenly democrats band together.

So is it a coincidence the Trump arraignment falls in line with the Wisconsin election for Supreme court?

Seems like a great way to motivate lazy voters.
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Democrats won in Wisconsin Supreme court.
This is a big victory.
Well planned out strategy if the above is even partially true.
 
Republicans will lose 2024.

They are similar to the lib losses here.
Democrats with initiatives like Project 72 in Wisconsin (which was brilliantly run) is why.
They invested in the right areas and played a smarter game. Republicans seem to be scrambling at this stage to even keep in the race.

Conservatives need to give swing and youth voters a reason to vote for them. In addition they need better grassroots organisers.
 


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moXJO said:
Republicans will lose 2024.

They are similar to the lib losses here.
Democrats with initiatives like Project 72 in Wisconsin (which was brilliantly run) is why.
They invested in the right areas and played a smarter game. Republicans seem to be scrambling at this stage to even keep in the race.

Conservatives need to give swing and youth voters a reason to vote for them. In addition they need better grassroots organisers.
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Mail in ballots, adjudication, change votes - US Intel (CIA) won't ever let an outsider (like Trump) into the White House ever again.​
 
moXJO said:
Republicans will lose 2024.

They are similar to the lib losses here.
Democrats with initiatives like Project 72 in Wisconsin (which was brilliantly run) is why.
They invested in the right areas and played a smarter game. Republicans seem to be scrambling at this stage to even keep in the race.

Conservatives need to give swing and youth voters a reason to vote for them. In addition they need better grassroots organisers.
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That is certainly true, sans the God Emperor, yep the Pubs are as useless as the Libs.

But, they've got the God Emperor... and that is a real wildcard as things stand.
 
Macquack said:
What is it with these tight arse billionaires. Pay off your little indiscretions with your own money. Don't claim it as an election expense or a business expense and you won't get in any trouble. F...ing dope.
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Says it all doesn't it ? Yes there are skeletons you don't want to come out of the closet. To be fair having a financial trail leading to your door isn't smart. However using dishonest accounting and recording practices seems even more disastrous.
 
basilio said:
Says it all doesn't it ? Yes there are skeletons you don't want to come out of the closet. To be fair having a financial trail leading to your door isn't smart. However using dishonest accounting and recording practices seems even more disastrous.
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The same could be said of Hillary/Bill, Obama, Biden, AOC. But they only got fines.
Pelosi was basically Insider trading.

Who's the odd one out though?
Why Trump of course.
Not because he was worse, because he was transparent. To much attention on what shtbags those US slugs are.
Trump was in the minor leagues when it came to US politicians. He's out of his depth.
 
moXJO said:
The same could be said of Hillary/Bill, Obama, Biden, AOC. But they only got fines.
Pelosi was basically Insider trading.

Who's the odd one out though?
Why Trump of course.
Not because he was worse, because he was transparent. To much attention on what shtbags those US slugs are.
Trump was in the minor leagues when it came to US politicians. He's out of his depth.
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Moxjo the overwhelming difference between Donald Trump and the other politicians has been his determination to gain and hold power by any means possible. On the lower end of the scale is his catch and kill exercises in personal damage control entwined with a business attitude to ethics that has no boundaries. That has been the hook for this case.

Going up the scale there are his attempts to overthrow the results of the last election with BS, bullying and ginningup his base to take over the Capitol and stop the voting.

Out of his depth ? He has achieved more than any other politician US history to change the discourse of politics. As he said earfly in the piece he could shoot someone in 5th Avenue and get away with it. Takes a very special person to have that sort of impact.

His leadership in demonstrating that truth and reality are totally unnecessary to gain power has earned him a cadre of followers who also have few boundaries and no scruples. They get way with it because the US political system has proven impotent to deal with such contemptuous behaviour. If Trump can bend the US legal system to allow his behaviour because otherwise there would be "death and destruction" he wins big time.
 
basilio said:
Moxjo the overwhelming difference between Donald Trump and the other politicians has been his determination to gain and hold power by any means possible. On the lower end of the scale is his catch and kill exercises in personal damage control entwined with a business attitude to ethics that has no boundaries. That has been the hook for this case.
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Oh c'mon Baz. The others are just as bad as Trump, people go into Politics because they want the power. The higher you go, the more you want, the more you want to keep it.
basilio said:
Going up the scale there are his attempts to overthrow the results of the last election with BS, bullying and ginningup his base to take over the Capitol and stop the voting.

Out of his depth ? He has achieved more than any other politician US history to change the discourse of politics. As he said earfly in the piece he could shoot someone in 5th Avenue and get away with it. Takes a very special person to have that sort of impact.

His leadership in demonstrating that truth and reality are totally unnecessary to gain power has earned him a cadre of followers who also have few boundaries and no scruples. They get way with it because the US political system has proven impotent to deal with such contemptuous behaviour. If Trump can bend the US legal system to allow his behaviour because otherwise there would be "death and destruction" he wins big time.
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Baz, you really need to get that other eye looked at.
Mick
 
basilio said:
Moxjo the overwhelming difference between Donald Trump and the other politicians has been his determination to gain and hold power by any means possible. On the lower end of the scale is his catch and kill exercises in personal damage control entwined with a business attitude to ethics that has no boundaries. That has been the hook for this case.

Going up the scale there are his attempts to overthrow the results of the last election with BS, bullying and ginningup his base to take over the Capitol and stop the voting.

Out of his depth ? He has achieved more than any other politician US history to change the discourse of politics. As he said earfly in the piece he could shoot someone in 5th Avenue and get away with it. Takes a very special person to have that sort of impact.

His leadership in demonstrating that truth and reality are totally unnecessary to gain power has earned him a cadre of followers who also have few boundaries and no scruples. They get way with it because the US political system has proven impotent to deal with such contemptuous behaviour. If Trump can bend the US legal system to allow his behaviour because otherwise there would be "death and destruction" he wins big time.
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Arresting your political opponents Bas. Wake up.
 
basilo said
Arresting your political opponents Bas. Wake up. who have broken the law.
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No Bas, who have allegedly broken the law.
You seem to have the same problem that a lot of people had in regards to the Brittany Higgins/Bruce Leahrman rape case.
Until evidence is presented and a person is convicted or pleads guilty, they are innocent.
It applies to everyone, even trump.
In most democratic countries where there is some semblance of fair legal structure, a court trial is all about the prosecutor proving the guilt of the defendant, not the defendant having to prove their innocence.
I am extremely glad for the saker of potential defendants that whatever it is that is/was your profession, you are not a legal prosecutor.
Mick
 

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