Coronavirus vaccine news

[rederob]

I thought Israel would be higher.

I think the table I use bases the percentage on total national population rather than over 16s, which could explain the lower level than we thought.

 

[rederob]

A discussion on the Indian Bar Assoc taking on WHO over Ivermectin.

This supposedly dangerous drug has been used since 1975 and over 4 billion doses have been taken

The law suit is a sick joke, pun intended.
Moreover, the WHO is not a relevant entity in the matter as they have no authority to determine what any nation does. The idiot lawyers need to read their Charter!
Ivermectin remains unproven. Lots of links in ASF threads show the shoddy research used by ivermectin advocates.
Maybe one day there will be something definitive on ivermectin, but for now it's use on covid is not recommended and, for some people, can have serious consequences.

 

[sptrawler]

I thought Israel would be higher.

Yes the original graph of vaccinations per 100 people was great, obviously it isn't so good for Australia now.

https://www.aussiestockforums.com/attachments/1630536059384-png.129750/

 

[rederob]

You can see from the table below why the USA is in trouble with covid infections, despite getting 3 vaccine candidates approved and having more supply available than needed for full coverage:

Hesitancy has slowed America's rate dramatically, and second dose rates have also tailed off.
Cuz across the ditch is ahead of us with total dose rates but behind with second doses.

I have a sneaking suspicion that while our States have inconsistent stances on a range of measures, the rivalries between them will work in our collective favour to get us to well over 80%. Neither Victoria nor Queensland ever like to see NSW get ahead, while WA and SA had a traditional rivalry until the 1980's when Perth steamrolled Adelaide's population as the mining boom got into full swing.
Here's how the daily numbers swing across Australia:

And a few days later:

 

[wayneL]

FYI q&a under Oath in court:

Barrister: is it true that double vaccinated people are 13 times more likely to catch and spread the virus?

Christine McCartney: Yes

B: are vaccines dangerous at all to pregnant women although is planning to fall pregnant?

CM: Yes

B: is it true that The vaccines have never been studied for effectiveness and safety?

CM: Yes, they have never been fully studied.

 

[SirRumpole]

Barrister: is it true that double vaccinated people are 13 times more likely to catch and spread the virus?

Christine McCartney: Yes

Probably because they are more likely to be breaking lockdowns thinking that they are immune. As we know vaccinations don't stop you getting or spreading the virus, they just reduce the symptoms.

 

[rederob]

FYI q&a under Oath in court:

Barrister: is it true that double vaccinated people are 13 times more likely to catch and spread the virus?

Christine McCartney: Yes

B: are vaccines dangerous at all to pregnant women although is planning to fall pregnant?

CM: Yes

B: is it true that The vaccines have never been studied for effectiveness and safety?

CM: Yes, they have never been fully studied.

You will note there is no source material confirming the info in @wayneL's post.
The simple reason for this is because it's untrue.
Yet another case of the misinformation @wayneL continues to peddle at ASF.

 

[wayneL]

Tw@tter on the money at last LMAO

 

[sptrawler]

It sounds as though vaccine uptake is taking off in all States, I guess the threats of exclusion to a lot of activities, is increasing enthusiasm.

First dose COVID-19 vaccination rates remain slow in remote NT

New Australian government data shows first dose COVID-19 vaccination rates have shot past 90 per cent in Darwin's CBD and inner suburbs, but are still at a crawl in some remote parts of the Northern Territory.

www.abc.net.au

NoCookies | The Australian

www.theaustralian.com.au

Vaccination Rates Soar-The Last 2021 News

The figures were released during the week by the Australian Government Department of Health at Outlining show the vaccination rates in each Local Government...

hillstohawkesbury.com.au

NSW hits 70 per cent vaccination target, bringing state closer to 'proper summer'

Premier Dominic Perrottet announces 70 per cent of people aged 16 and over are now fully vaccinated against COVID-19, describing it as "great news" that has brought NSW closer to a "proper summer".

www.abc.net.au

 

[bellenuit]

FYI q&a under Oath in court:

Barrister: is it true that double vaccinated people are 13 times more likely to catch and spread the virus?

Christine McCartney: Yes

B: are vaccines dangerous at all to pregnant women although is planning to fall pregnant?

CM: Yes

B: is it true that The vaccines have never been studied for effectiveness and safety?

CM: Yes, they have never been fully studied.

I haven't been able to find anything at all to support that court conversation. Do you have a link to the actual court case?

This Twitter guy Start Flame 11 11 hasn't provided any link whatsoever and he seems very suspicious. This is his Patreon page:

https://www.patreon.com/join/StarFlame1111

Even in the video he warns off fact checking his statement. And all he does is hold a piece of paper in his hands that just has those statements you posted, but has no heading or anything that could lead one to identify what court case he is talking about . He even misspells Christine McCartney's first name. It is Kristine. No mention of who the barrister is at all, he just calls him barrister.

The fact that all three answers are complete nonsense and unsupported by any reliable authority makes me believe that this is just a hoax post. The fact that there is no way to fact check the statements and he goes out of his way to warn against fact checking adds to my suspiciousness.

 

[sptrawler]

Sounds like there is a hiccup, with the Moderna vaccine in Europe, apparently young people and heart inflammation.

 

[Knobby22]

Fascinating article in today's Age about who is most likely to not take the vaccine.
As with Sydney, no. 1 is the poorly educated Western suburbs. No surprise there.

Second is the wealthy far left suburbs with Green members in Parliament.
It makes sense, big pharma was a lefty meme and they believe that because they only eat organic food and do yoga that they are protected. They can fall back on alternative therapies if they get sick. By the way, this is the area the mid 30s women died recently from covid at home without getting tested or getting any western treatment.

Another one in wealthy areas is educated men in non health related fields especially engineering and data! No offence to my own profession but I would think this is where a lot of crazies of different types come from.

 

[wayneL]

It's crazy to be follow data for a while to see if it is safe?

I think that is sensible.

 

[IFocus]

Fascinating article in today's Age about who is most likely to not take the vaccine.
As with Sydney, no. 1 is the poorly educated Western suburbs. No surprise there.

Second is the wealthy far left suburbs with Green members in Parliament.
It makes sense, big pharma was a lefty meme and they believe that because they only eat organic food and do yoga that they are protected. They can fall back on alternative therapies if they get sick. By the way, this is the area the mid 30s women died recently from covid at home without getting tested or getting any western treatment.

Another one in wealthy areas is educated men in non health related fields especially engineering and data! No offence to my own profession but I would think this is where a lot of crazies of different types come from.

ACT vax rates @ over 90% would be an interesting study.

 

[Knobby22]

ACT vax rates @ over 90% would be an interesting study.

True.
I think ACT is beginning to be the place to be in Australia. From a sleepy town to maybe the best of all worlds if they can get a better public transport system and grow a bit larger. Especially if you love skiing and art.

 

[Belli]

ACT vax rates @ over 90% would be an interesting study.

Fully vaccinated is 69.3% as at 8 October and that percentage includes those aged 12 and over. Information is available on the ACT health site. The number of first doses isn't reported and that is intentional.

The ACT Chief Minister has made his aim very clear and that is to reach at least 95% fully vaccinated for those eligible.

I can see the direction of his thinking as the ACT is surrounded by NSW regions, many of which are still in a bit of trouble, and the flow of people between NSW and ACT is high. That and the health system in Canberra is the focal point for many who live in NSW from places such as Bateman's Bay, Wagga, Cooma, etc.

 

[Belli]

True.
I think ACT is beginning to be the place to be in Australia. From a sleepy town to maybe the best of all worlds if they can get a better public transport system and grow a bit larger. Especially if you love skiing and art.

You will require a Safe Haven visa and we'll think long and hard about granting you one.

 

[bellenuit]

FYI q&a under Oath in court:

Barrister: is it true that double vaccinated people are 13 times more likely to catch and spread the virus?

Christine McCartney: Yes

B: are vaccines dangerous at all to pregnant women although is planning to fall pregnant?

CM: Yes

B: is it true that The vaccines have never been studied for effectiveness and safety?

CM: Yes, they have never been fully studied.

Seems your post pointing to and regurgitation a Twitter post that is a blatant made up lie has been removed from Twitter. Good one WayneL. Who cares if anyone has been influenced to avoid vaccines by your actions.

 

[wayneL]

Seems your post pointing to and regurgitation a Twitter post that is a blatant made up lie has been removed from Twitter. Good one WayneL. Who cares if anyone has been influenced to avoid vaccines by your actions.

It's still up on my twitter, and yes I want to know if it's fair dinkum too.

There are lots of blatant lies, bud. I will be disappointed if that is bulshit, but there are the ones overestimating it's effectiveness and safety. They are lies too.

I just want to find the truth and that is getting hidden with all the politics and nonsense.

 

[rederob]

Survey data on hesitancy in Australia:

And in other nations:

Europe looking good as a travel destination from early 2022.
USA looking dodgy, but Canada's a fantastic country to visit instead.