Coronavirus vaccine news

[rederob]

It's still up on my twitter, and yes I want to know if it's fair dinkum too.

There are lots of blatant lies, bud. I will be disappointed if that is bulshit, but there are the ones overestimating it's effectiveness and safety. They are lies too.

I just want to find the truth and that is getting hidden with all the politics and nonsense.

It's a load of bollocks.
It is only possible for more vaccinated people to get covid than unvaccinated when most of the population is vaccinated and breakthroughs occur in a greater number. Australia is a long way from this level and all the daily reports from States continue to confirm that most cases are unvaccinated.
If @wayneL was interested in learning the truth it would take him a minute on the internet at most. I find his postings to be regularly disingenuous.

 

[bellenuit]

and yes I want to know if it's fair dinkum too.

So you posted it even though you didn't know whether it was true or not, but neglected to say that it might be wrong. Yea, take no responsibility for spreading false and dangerous information.

 

[wayneL]

So you posted it even though you didn't know whether it was true or not, but neglected to say that it might be wrong. Yea, take no responsibility for spreading false and dangerous information.

And yet, you don't see posts on the other side as dangerous... even as so many have serious reactions?

You see no responsibility in that?

Cult behaviour bro.

 

[wayneL]

And yet, you don't see posts on the other side as dangerous... even as so many have serious reactions?

You see no responsibility in that?

Cult behaviour bro.

And to be sure, these things are put up to be debated.

If disproved... That's a good thing, either way. Oxygen is the best disinfectant.

Suppression of debate is... Well, figure that out, bro.

 

[bellenuit]

This wasn't a post that was arguing a point that I may or may not disagree with. I have no issues with that. That is the whole purpose of these forums - to let people express their opinions.

This was a complete fabrication, supposedly of a court Q & A that just didn't happen and was put out there simply to mislead. If you weren't sure it was true, you could have indicated that.

Apparently it was shared multiple times on Twitter and they have deleted those shares that have been reported.

 

[Belli]

Sounds like there is a hiccup, with the Moderna vaccine in Europe, apparently young people and heart inflammation.

Not really a drama as some media outlets try to portray. Seems they haven't learnt from when overstating cases of very rare blood clots and the sad deaths associated with AstraZeneca.

COVID-19 vaccine weekly safety report - 07-10-2021

Information about the TGA's safety monitoring of COVID-19 vaccines.

www.tga.gov.au

I don't bother with news media all that much when it comes to matters such as these.

 

[grah33]

And to be sure, these things are put up to be debated.

If disproved... That's a good thing, either way. Oxygen is the best disinfectant.

Suppression of debate is... Well, figure that out, bro.

you're lucky to work for yourself as a tradie. hopefully we can both avoid the needle.


need to research but apparently the guy who discovered Aids virus (well known) is on the same page as us.


people here seem to have a lot of confidence in the vaccine's effectiveness.

watching people around me lose their jobs... I wonder what else is next .

 

[Belli]

need to research but apparently the guy who discovered Aids virus (well known) is on the same page as us.

Dear ol' Luc's claim about gene sequencing "proving" Covid was, um, man made overlooked that sequencing is common to other similar organisms and so his proof meant ..........absolutely nothing. His assertion was debunked by others with expertise in the field.

 

[wayneL]

The clown world abideth.

How to make gatherings safer

Now that lockdown is easing in New South Wales, residents are more likely to be in contact with others who are unvaccinated.

www.news.com.au

 

[wayneL]

Informed consent...

 

[basilio]

Re the soldier /marine ? who would rather die before getting this "medical procedure" - COVID vaccine.

He's quite safe. No probs. Just won't be a soldier any more.

The US army routinely vaccinates it's soldiers against a wide range of diseases.. It is regarded as an essential form of protection for the individual soldier and the whole corp.To date COVID has infected 238,000 soldiers with 46 deaths.

This is the procedure they are following.

https://www.military.com/daily-news/2021/09/15/what-happens-soldiers-who-refuse-covid-vaccine.html

https://www.washingtonpost.com/outlook/2021/08/19/us-military-coronavirus-vaccination-is-akin-body-armor/

But the near-eradication of many of these diseases within the United States, the nascent environmentalist movement and growing distrust in the U.S. government following the Vietnam War reinvigorated the anti-vaccination movement in United States, which dated back to the late 19th century. On the matter of civil liberties and informed consent, this movement found itself at odds with the Supreme Court, which had upheld vaccine requirements in 1905 in Jacobson v. Massachusetts. The court explained that “Society based on the rule that each one is a law unto himself would soon be confronted with disorder and anarchy. Real liberty for all could not exist under the operation of a principle which recognizes the right of each individual person to use his own, whether in respect of his person or his property, regardless of the injury that may be done to others.” In sum, U.S. states and other government entities could compel vaccination for the public good, but states were free to develop their own laws individually.

In the 1980s, the military responded to this growing anti-vaccination movement by standardizing its vaccination schedule for inductees and opting to require further vaccinations based upon global deployments. Currently, as part of initial entry training, service members are mandated to receive chickenpox; hepatitis A; hepatitis B; seasonal influenza; mumps, measles and rubella; polio; diphtheria; tetanus; and pertussis vaccinations.

 

[basilio]

Anthrax Vaccine: Side Effects, Uses, and What to Know

Here's what to know about the anthrax vaccine, including side effects, ingredients, why it's used, and who it's recommended for.

www.healthline.com

 

[Knobby22]

Health Minister Greg Hunt said at his speech today that the ACT is 98.1% at least first dose vaccinated.
That is truly impressive.

 

[macca]

for those with some spare time a report to dig into

<<Immunology and virology 101 have taught us over a century that natural immunity confers protection against a respiratory virus’s outer coat proteins, and not just one, e.g. the SARS-CoV-2 spike glycoprotein. There is even strong evidence for the persistence of antibodies. Even the CDC recognizes natural immunity for chicken-pox and measles, mumps, and rubella, but not for COVID-19.


The vaccinated are showing viral loads (very high) similar to the unvaccinated (Acharya et al. and Riemersma et al.), and the vaccinated are as infectious. Riemersma et al. also report Wisconsin data that corroborate how the vaccinated individuals who get infected with the Delta variant can potentially (and are) transmit(ting) SARS-CoV-2 to others (potentially to the vaccinated and unvaccinated). >>

160 Plus Research Studies Affirm Naturally Acquired Immunity to Covid-19: Documented, Linked, and Quoted ⋆ Brownstone Institute

This follow-up chart is a list of scientific studies and evidence on natural immunity to allow you to draw your own conclusions..

brownstone.org

 

[basilio]

for those with some spare time a report to dig into

<<Immunology and virology 101 have taught us over a century that natural immunity confers protection against a respiratory virus’s outer coat proteins, and not just one, e.g. the SARS-CoV-2 spike glycoprotein. There is even strong evidence for the persistence of antibodies. Even the CDC recognizes natural immunity for chicken-pox and measles, mumps, and rubella, but not for COVID-19.


The vaccinated are showing viral loads (very high) similar to the unvaccinated (Acharya et al. and Riemersma et al.), and the vaccinated are as infectious. Riemersma et al. also report Wisconsin data that corroborate how the vaccinated individuals who get infected with the Delta variant can potentially (and are) transmit(ting) SARS-CoV-2 to others (potentially to the vaccinated and unvaccinated). >>

160 Plus Research Studies Affirm Naturally Acquired Immunity to Covid-19: Documented, Linked, and Quoted ⋆ Brownstone Institute

This follow-up chart is a list of scientific studies and evidence on natural immunity to allow you to draw your own conclusions..

brownstone.org

This newly minted body and it's contributors are committed to ensuring that no future US Government ever takes away it's citizens precious freedom and personal rights by having a lockdown in the case of any future medical emergency.

Let nature takes it's course.

About Brownstone Institute ⋆ Brownstone Institute

About Brownstone Institute: celebrating freedom as the path to progress, trustworthy public health, vibrant culture, and economic prosperity

brownstone.org

Freedom from political mandates

Dr. Paul Elias Alexander wrote, “Twenty Steps to End the Madness,” in the Brownstone Institute last month. He began, “Lockdowns, school closures, mask mandates, and all of the Covid-19 pandemic

www.leader-call.com

 

[basilio]

I was out walking with some friends this morning and heard two interesting pieces of news regarding vaccination.

1) A local restaurant is taking care to ensure all patrons are double vaxxed. However the Head Chef is not vaxxed and has no intention of being jabbed.

2) The CEO of a major international company which has large local operations has refused to be vaxxed. He has lost his position and been sent back home.

 

[basilio]

Equality before the law.

'Untenable and totally impractical': Unvaccinated CEO of Victorian council resigns

The CEO of a north-west Victorian council has resigned after electing not to be vaccinated against COVID-19.

www.abc.net.au

 

[bellenuit]

Good news....

With holidays looming, scientists point to additional data showing value of vaccines​

With holidays looming, scientists point to additional data showing value of vaccines against delta variant

Uncommon breakthrough cases resolve quicker, making people less contagious, new research shows.

abcnews.go.com

 

[DB008]

Effectiveness of Covid-19 Vaccination Against Risk of Symptomatic Infection, Hospitalization, and Death Up to 9 Months: A Swedish Total-Population Cohort Study​

Abstract​

Background: Whether vaccine effectiveness against Coronavirus disease 2019 (Covid-19) lasts longer than 6 months is unclear.

Methods: A retrospective cohort study was conducted using Swedish nationwide registries. The cohort comprised 842,974 pairs (N=1,684,958), including individuals vaccinated with 2 doses of ChAdOx1 nCoV-19, mRNA-1273, or BNT162b2, and matched unvaccinated individuals. Cases of symptomatic infection and severe Covid-19 (hospitalization or 30-day mortality after confirmed infection) were collected from 12 January to 4 October 2021.

Findings: Vaccine effectiveness of BNT162b2 against infection waned progressively from 92% (95% CI, 92-93, P<0·001) at day 15-30 to 47% (95% CI, 39-55, P<0·001) at day 121-180, and from day 211 and onwards no effectiveness could be detected (23%; 95% CI, -2-41, P=0·07). The effectiveness waned slightly slower for mRNA-1273, being estimated to 59% (95% CI, 18-79) from day 181 and onwards. In contrast, effectiveness of ChAdOx1 nCoV-19 was generally lower and waned faster, with no effectiveness detected from day 121 and onwards (-19%, 95% CI, -97-28), whereas effectiveness from heterologous ChAdOx1 nCoV-19 / mRNA was maintained from 121 days and onwards (66%; 95% CI, 41-80). Overall, vaccine effectiveness was lower and waned faster among men and older individuals. For the outcome severe Covid-19, effectiveness waned from 89% (95% CI, 82-93, P<0·001) at day 15-30 to 42% (95% CI, -35-75, P=0·21) from day 181 and onwards, with sensitivity analyses showing notable waning among men, older frail individuals, and individuals with comorbidities.

Interpretation: Vaccine effectiveness against symptomatic Covid-19 infection wanes progressively over time across all subgroups, but at different rate according to type of vaccine, and faster for men and older frail individuals. The effectiveness against severe illness seems to remain high through 9 months, although not for men, older frail individuals, and individuals with comorbidities. This strengthens the evidence-based rationale for administration of a third booster dose.

Funding: None to declare.

Declaration of Interest: None to declare.

Ethical Approval: This study was approved by the Swedish Ethical Review Authority (number 495/2021)​

https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=3949410


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[wayneL]

Pretty much what I am hearing anecdotally in my circle of contacts.