The stats need time in regard to this. Your point may well prove to be true, but in the fullness of time, it may not.But not nearly as dangerous as not taking vaccines during a pandemic. The stats prove it.
The stats need time in regard to this. Your point may well prove to be true, but in the fullness of time, it may not.
dk why people would get a second jab, when we're not seeing the virus at all around usI had the first shot of the AstraZeneca last Friday week. Sore arm at the injection site for a couple of days but apart from that no other issue. Next shot in three months time. I'm taking low dose (100mg) Asprin following surgery a while ago so that will mitigate potential blood clot issues.
U reckon? Some points from the mRNA inventor:But not nearly as dangerous as not taking vaccines during a pandemic. The stats prove it.
@grah33 should be rewarded for bringing us the truth.some Clive Palmer ...
COVID-19 VACCINE – 210 deaths, 24,000 adverse reactions. When will they stop?
Men and Women of Australia,
I feel duty-bound to bring the following to your attention.
The Australian Government’s Therapeutic Goods Administration report confirms 210 deaths and 24,000 adverse reactions after the COVID-19 vaccines. There are over 5,000 deaths in the USA attributed to the Covid Vaccines including Pfizer.
While I support the use of vaccines that have approval for general use, I am very concerned by the use of this vaccine on the general population.
My understanding is that emergency use of a medicine is only authorised in the US if the person receiving the treatment is in immediate danger of dying. This is not the case with millions of Australians who are not ill. The simple fact is that we don’t have one-year safety data, three-year safety data, or five-year safety data for the use of the COVID-19 vaccine on humans or animals. Over 50% of animals in the animal trials have died.
I do not understand why it is that millions of Australians should be subject to a medical treatment that has not complied with normal practices.
There is no pandemic in Australia – only one person has died of COVID in 2021. The TGA and the government have spread misleading information designed to create fear in the population. TheCenter for Disease Control website in the United States confirms the following effects that their vaccine program has had using the same vaccines that the TGA has approved in Australia – over5,000 deaths, 3,900 disabled, 571 miscarriages, 1,500 Bell’s Palsy, and 1,900 heart attacks.
The Governments around Australia have done a great job in protecting all Australians from COVID-19 and for healthy Australians to receive such a treatment is, as I understand it, unprecedented.
I don’t understand why Australians need to rush or take risks with their lives.
And I don’t understand why the Australian Government has granted the pharmaceutical companies a complete indemnity should their COVID-19 vaccines cause illness or death. It would appear that these pharmaceutical companies lack confidence in their own products, which makes them ask for such an indemnity. No one will be successful in court if the government has indemnified the pharmaceutical companies.
We need to maintain the very high standards Australia has set for itself in the approvals of vaccines.
The COVID 19 Vaccine doesn’t stop you from getting COVID and it doesn’t stop you from passing it on. Does it serve any real purpose?
For the TGA report and more information go to: thetruthaboutcovidvaccines.com
God bless Australia, Clive Palmer
i'm not talking about Americas frontline doctors but the Phizer guy. he's quoted not just by them but all over the place.@grah33 should be rewarded for bringing us the truth.
I don't know if he ever will, as the dribble he has posted above deserves condemnation.
At least we know why some people refuse to accept and act on health advice from health professionals, and prefer instead to put the rest of the community in potential harm due to their wilful ignorance.
You don't have to have it.i'm not talking about Americas frontline doctors but the Phizer guy. he's quoted not just by them but all over the place.
The x Phizer VP and the inventor of mRNA technologies are health experts.
I'm surprised you have so much trust in these experimental vaccines. A "Mob rules" government may soon try to force it on us I am sure no one will force you to have.
Mike Yeadon ex Pfizer VP, is the pin up hero of Anti Vaxxers around the world.
And his stories on COVID are just slightly more sophisticated than Clive Palmers outright dribble
Debunked: Claims by an ex-Pfizer employee about Covid-19 and vaccines are false and misleading
Mike Yeadon is regularly cited by anti-lockdown groups.www.thejournal.ie
You don't have to have it.
If you want to catch Covid and risk it, its your call. Because we will reopen the economy which is looking like June next year. Fortress Australia has to end. The sooner the better. No lockdowns anymore.
Firstly though, we know in that famous NSW party that all members caught it except the vaccinated ones.
Secondly, a warning. A colleague at my work's Dads best friend caught covid and died of a stroke caused by a blood clot to the brain two weeks later a few days after leaving hospital. This is a known effect.
In his early 60s, fit, no health problems. Not even sure he appeared in the covid stats. Its your call. But I don't want to hear you whinge on this site later saying you weren't warned should you find yourself paralysed on one side or with permanent lung damage.
COVID-19 blood clots & stroke risk • HRI
There is mounting evidence COVID-19 causes abnormalities in blood clotting, which can cause heart attacks and stroke.www.hri.org.au Interstitial Lung Disease: Symptoms, Causes, Types
Learn about interstitial lung disease, including life expectancy and prognosis.www.healthline.com
Spot on Bas, it isn't as though Morrison is saying younger people have to have it, he is just saying that if they want it and have a discussion with their doctor they can have it.I have to say I'm pretty horrified at the argument of the Chief Health Officer in Queensland regarding the the Astra Zeneca vaccine for younger people.
We always follow the advice of the chief health officer. We follow the medical advice and the medical advice is very clear … under 40s should be offered alternatives to AstraZenica vaccine.
In response to questions, Young said: “I do not want under 40s to get AstraZeneca”. (This is Chief Health Officer Dr Jeanette Young)
“I don’t want an 18-year-old in Queensland dying from a clotting illness who, if they got Covid, probably wouldn’t die. We’ve had very few deaths due to Covid-19 in Australia in people under the age of 50, and wouldn’t it be terrible that our first 18- year-old in Queensland to who dies related to this pandemic died because of the vaccine.”
My issues with the argument are :‘Corporate mates’: Queensland lashes exemptions for business travellers amid Covid outbreak
Commonwealth says international travel claim is a ‘smokescreen to hide the ineffectiveness’ of state quarantine systemwww.theguardian.com
1) The blood clot risks associated with the Astra jab are real but very small. However there have been many deaths and serious illness suffered by younger people having COVID when the disease gets out of hand overseas. The fact that very few younger people have died in Australia to date has no bearing on the effect of a mass outbreak which could easily happen if the Delta variant gets away.
2) The vaccination of many more people is a way to slow/limit the spread of COVID across the whole community. So effectively allowing hundreds of thousands of people to become vaccinated protects them and many others as well.
3) The use of a hypothetical 18 year being the first to die in the pandemic as a result of a vaccine wantonly undermines public confidence in the need to be vaccinated if we are to protect the whole community. Frankly I can see her words being echoed across every anti-vaxxer rag in the country. The medical community appreciates risks and risk management. Every drug, every procedure, every intervention or non intervention carries risks. To reduce the question of using the Astra Zeneca vaccine to the possibility that a poor 18 year might just possibly become the first COVID victim to die and only because of the vaccine is unconscionable and destroys the principle of risk management.
In a better situation I can understand why younger people should be getting the Pfizer jab. But right now we have xxxx all Pfizer vaccines, a large supply of AstroZeneca and a grave risk of an out of control Delta fueled COVID outbreak. And this is an environment with an extremely low vaccinated population.
I can only agree with Scott Morrison again. AstraZeneca is not perfect. But it will protect hundreds of thousands of people who are otherwise at risk and if infected will spread the disease to any even riskier community.
If you want to claim something that has a basis in science then offer the evidence supporting it.slightly more sophisticated? he's a virology guy who knows way more.
regs the debunking, that's going back and forth. check out the twitter page of the inventor of mRNA technology . he falsifies fact checkers who speak nonsense against him.
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