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That quote is from this article about doctors pleading with governments to use ivermectin to save lives. The scientists are the ones who have gone mad, and active censorship by governments, Google, Wikipedia and many others has labelled the doctors at the frontline and anyone else who tells us how things really are regarding Covid treatments as "Anti Vaxxers & Conspiracy Theorists" How can exposing what is really happening be a conspiracy? How can denying life-saving treatment to dying patients be considered good public health?

I say again, we are being conned.

@pozindustrial did not tell you that these doctors are free to post their findings, and they have.
Here's the reason their work is being discounted by some medical professionals for now and NOT censored.
The fact is that doctors continue to use proven effective treatments and Kory's group are able to practise what they believe works best.
 
Trouble with the internet is that posts contrary to powerful interests, despite being informative, can be easily found and dealt with. Google is broken, Wikipedia have reduced to censorship based on dubious 'fact checking' that is clearly lies. We used to rely on these for great information, but sadly no longer. Same for facebook and twitter. Far rights will be p*$$d off by twitter's censorship of Trump. We are heading towards communism under the guise of Western freedom.
 
Crackpot findings that have no scientific or medical merit are de rigueur in the USA.
Just as Trump was removed from Twitter, others peddling crap can suffer the same fate.
Most social media platforms have well established protocols for removing content they deem in breach.
Apart from that Mercola has been advised by competent authorities that it is illegal to make many of his claims. That's not censorship.
 
I am not saying people should not get vaccinated, but before you do you may want to compare the risks.

This article gives the figures of how it compares to the flu shot. This is the type of analysis that is being censored instead of widely distributed so that people can be fully informed. Health authorities do not even attempt to debate this or counter it other than to apply a derogatory label to it. We are being given the mushroom treatment.

 
I am not saying people should not get vaccinated, but before you do you may want to compare the risks.

This article gives the figures of how it compares to the flu shot. This is the type of analysis that is being censored instead of widely distributed so that people can be fully informed. Health authorities do not even attempt to debate this or counter it other than to apply a derogatory label to it. We are being given the mushroom treatment.

@pozindustrial, before you use Fox News as a source it would be a good idea to understand what the word causal means.
Why?
Because if you receive a vaccine, and in the USA some 275 million doses have been administered, and you die some time afterwards your will be recorded on VAERS as a death after vaccination. However, we find that after a review of available clinical information, including death certificates, autopsy, and medical records a causal relationship is only plausibly linked to a relatively small number of deaths due to blood clotting.
In other words we would normally expect around 4000 deaths in the 5 months to mid May 2021in a population of 275 irrespective of whether or not vaccinations were administered.
I suggest @pozindustrial get a lot better educated in this field as he continues to post misinformation.
 
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I am not saying people should not get vaccinated, but before you do you may want to compare the risks.

This article gives the figures of how it compares to the flu shot. This is the type of analysis that is being censored instead of widely distributed so that people can be fully informed. Health authorities do not even attempt to debate this or counter it other than to apply a derogatory label to it. We are being given the mushroom treatment.

With Fox news look at what they do rather than what they say.
Just about every one of them has been vaccinated. Sean Hennity when asked if he was vaccinated said its no ones business knowing whether he has or not.
Follow the actions!
 
Why are you repeating a link which is bollocks?
And I have no idea what your point is about airports because it makes no sense.

Some basic facts:
  • vaccinations don't stop people getting infected by covid
  • vaccinated people who get symptoms are, on average, likely to be less infectious (less viral load)
  • vaccinated people are very unlikely to require hospitalisation
  • Vaccinated travellers are extremely unlikely to impact on medical care facilities
A system of vaccine passports combined with rapid antigen testing immediately prior to boarding (and then PCR testing if RAT test was positive), combined with wearing masks would probably make travelling safer than being in a hotel quarantine facility for 14 days.
i gotta do some research , but ...

asymptomatic transmission (transmission with no symptoms) may in fact be just bull

and the over 50s use this vaccine, and under 50s this one ... also resembles bull
 
i gotta do some research , but ...

asymptomatic transmission (transmission with no symptoms) may in fact be just bull

and the over 50s use this vaccine, and under 50s this one ... also resembles bull
I agree that you "gotta do some research".
 
asymptomatic transmission (transmission with no symptoms) may in fact be just bull

and the over 50s use this vaccine, and under 50s this one ... also resembles bull

Correct, Bull. No such thing as asymptomatic transmission. Created to scare us into complying with whatever it is they want us to do. They cannot prove it so it is just made up. The vaccine should take years to test, but emergency powers have given them permission to bring it out early without the safety testing over time (while preventing access to drugs proven to work extremely well such as ivermectin and hydroxychloroquine). So to say one is better for over 50 etc. is just simply flying by the seat of their pants as the injured numbers pile up and provide them with statistics. This is insanity! So why are our medical advisors so incompetent? It is because the drug companies are so efficient with their marketing, their influence, their lobbying and their lies. Billions of dollars in fines paid out by the drug companies for illegal activities proves it, but people still think they are akin to God.
 
If you live in Melbourne and are over 50 and haven't had your vaccine, all I can say is "feeling lucky....punk." ?
 
Correct, Bull. No such thing as asymptomatic transmission. Created to scare us into complying with whatever it is they want us to do. They cannot prove it so it is just made up. The vaccine should take years to test, but emergency powers have given them permission to bring it out early without the safety testing over time (while preventing access to drugs proven to work extremely well such as ivermectin and hydroxychloroquine). So to say one is better for over 50 etc. is just simply flying by the seat of their pants as the injured numbers pile up and provide them with statistics. This is insanity! So why are our medical advisors so incompetent? It is because the drug companies are so efficient with their marketing, their influence, their lobbying and their lies. Billions of dollars in fines paid out by the drug companies for illegal activities proves it, but people still think they are akin to God.

The testing was actually quite reasonable given that the flu vaccine is tested on 10K or less COVID vacs on 30K or more of course now you are talking 10's of millions.

Hydroxychloroquine has been shown to be at best non effective and at worse harmful.
 
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I'm not an anti vaxxer, but people shouldn't make light of their concerns, there has been issues with drugs before and from appearances this vaccine seems to be rushed. Which it may have to be, who knows.
Time has moved on knowledge, testing and checks are much better now, but there are those who are worried, especially when the media plasters every bad experience into cyber space.
 
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Exactly what we need to Victoria...:)

Victoria Renames Jabs ‘Piccolo’, ‘Almond Milk’ & ‘Three-Quarter Latte’ In Attempt To Increase Take-Up

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With vaccination rates lagging behind the rest of the world, the Victorian Government has begun offering a range of new vaccine options, including piccolo, soy-latte, double-espresso with the milk on the side and single-origin cold brew, in a desperate attempt to increase those coming in to get the jab.

“We had to do something to convince smug Victorians to take this ******* vaccine,” a spokesperson for the program said. “All the vaccines are the same – we just give them different names so people think they’re being different and individual.
“One guy came in and asked for a magic, and we said sure, if that makes you feel special, let’s call it a magic. And he sat down and got the vaccine straight away”.

The spokesperson said they were willing to take all sorts of orders. “You want a double shot single origin latte with the milk on the side? Righto, let’s call it that. And here’s a little carry tray for you to walk around with afterwards”.

Since the start of the program, demand has dramatically increased. “We’ve found that people have started lining up for it now, especially since we moved the mass vaccination centre to a shitty little hole in the wall down an alleyway”.

The Queensland Government will trial a similar program for Queenslanders, offering vaccines in watery mid-strength beer flavours.
 
Sounds as though mRNA vaccines might be getting made here, the Government will no doubt be pushing hard.
From the article:
US vaccine maker Moderna has filed documents with the corporate regulator to set up a local company after announcing plans last month to launch commercial operations in Australia.

The Nasdaq-listed biotech made the surprise announcement earlier this month that it would sell 25 million doses of its messenger-RNA coronavirus vaccine to Australia and said it was in talks with the government about local manufacturing opportunities.
Moderna told investors earlier this year it planned to set up operations in Australia at some point in 2021.

Documents filed with the Australian Securities and Investments Commission (ASIC) show this process has begun, with an application lodged by Moderna on May 14 to set up a company called Moderna Australia. According to the documents, its ultimate holding company would be the US business Moderna Inc.
The Moderna product is a two-shot vaccine, with doses administered 28 days apart. Like the Pfizer/BioNTech product it uses mRNA to instruct the body to fight the virus. It can be stored for six months at -20 degrees celcius, but at up to 30 days at normal refrigeration temperatures.

Australia has ordered 25 million Moderna doses, but only 10 million are expected in this calendar year with the balance arriving next year.

The company does not currently have any commercial presence in Australia.
 
What does a ramp up look like?
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The above charts the 15 most populous nations plus Australia:
In the past month China has carried out over 317 million vaccinations and America 57 million in the same period.
On 25 May China vaccinated 19.5 million citizens compared to less than 5 million a month earlier, whereas America went from to around 2 million to less than a million. Australia increased its jab numbers by 50K over the same period, off a very low 30K base.
 
What does a ramp up look like?

The above charts the 15 most populous nations plus Australia:
In the past month China has carried out over 317 million vaccinations and America 57 million in the same period.
On 25 May China vaccinated 19.5 million citizens compared to less than 5 million a month earlier, whereas America went from to around 2 million to less than a million. Australia increased its jab numbers by 50K over the same period, off a very low 30K base.
I guess that is the difference between incentives, in the U.S they are offering free beer for people who have the vaccine, I wonder what China is offering. :rolleyes:
 
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