Coronavirus vaccine news

[wabullfrog]

J&J vaccine is also having rare but serious blood clot cases.

US calls for pause in Johnson & Johnson vaccinations over blood clot concerns

The FDA and CDC announced Tuesday that they are calling for an immediate pause on the use of the single-dose Johnson & Johnson vaccine on Tuesday.

abcnews.go.com

 

[SirRumpole]

You need to stop believing everything you read!
I guarantee you that the statement you refer to does not exist.

So you are a mouthpiece for Chinese propaganda now rob ?

The statement was reported on Al Jazerera, usually a reliable source.

Chinese vaccines’ effectiveness low, official admits

Efficacy of a coronavirus vaccine from Sinovac – one of main jabs – has been found to be as low as 50.4 percent.

www.aljazeera.com

Of course China is going to refute that, like it stopped doctors from speaking out.

You seem to be taking China's side on everything.

 

[rederob]

So you are a mouthpiece for Chinese propaganda now rob ?

The statement was reported on Al Jazerera, usually a reliable source.

I rely on evidence @SirRumpole and most newspapers reported (many by syndication) an inference, not what was actually said. Furthermore the inference was then embellished by most media sources. Or, as in @sptrawler's post, they just made additional stupid comments: you could have added dozens of other countries that have closed their borders to control covid, while over 100 nations - including Australia - will not reach herd immunity until some time in 2022 when global vaccine production reaches excess capacity and Covax has done its job.
Your source reminds of the evidence that led Australia to join the USA in a war against Iraq. But read carefully and you will see that Al Jazeera did not have "Chinese vaccines" in quotation marks because Dao Fu did not refer to them - I give them credit for that level of accuracy.

Of course China is going to refute that, like it stopped doctors from speaking out.

China has officially reiterated that the media has taken Dao Fu's comments out of context, which Dao himself explained. As to doctors speaking out being silenced, you will find that in Australia if you are an employee then you cannot make statements which affect the organisation which employs you. To this day I remain bound by Section 70 of the Crimes Act in relation to aspects of my work.

You seem to be taking China's side on everything.

I take time to check things as a rule, and also look for other motivations when things don't appear to stack up.

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[Clansman]

I rely on evidence @SirRumpole and most newspapers reported (many by syndication) an inference, not what was actually said. Furthermore the inference was then embellished by most media sources. Or, as in @sptrawler's post, they just made additional stupid comments: you could have added dozens of other countries that have closed their borders to control covid, while over 100 nations - including Australia - will not reach herd immunity until some time in 2022 when global vaccine production reaches excess capacity and Covax has done its job.
Your source reminds of the evidence that led Australia to join the USA in a war against Iraq. But read carefully and you will see that Al Jazeera did not have "Chinese vaccines" in quotation marks because Dao Fu did not refer to them - I give them credit for that level of accuracy.

China has officially reiterated that the media has taken Dao Fu's comments out of context, which Dao himself explained. As to doctors speaking out being silenced, you will find that in Australia if you are an employee then you cannot make statements which affect the organisation which employs you. To this day I remain bound by Section 70 of the Crimes Act in relation to aspects of my work.

I take time to check things as a rule, and also look for other motivations when things don't appear to stack up.

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You lost everybody at "I rely on evidence" and then again at "China has officially reiterated". The final nail was hammered in at "I take time to check things as a rule".
After the antics of yesterday, it would seem time for you to stock of a failing method.
It will take time for you to get over" China has a superior aircraft carrier fleet to the USA" LOL.

"I remain bound by Section 70 of the Crimes Act in relation to aspects of my work" is another poor attempt at name dropping and will go nowhere when it is offset by constant fabrication.

 

[SirRumpole]

China has officially reiterated that the media has taken Dao Fu's comments out of context, which Dao himself explained. As to doctors speaking out being silenced, you will find that in Australia if you are an employee then you cannot make statements which affect the organisation which employs you. To this day I remain bound by Section 70 of the Crimes Act in relation to aspects of my work.

Sure and that covers up a multitude of sins doesn't it ?

The time honoured way to media manage errors and hide the truth.

Whistle blowers who spill the beans and tell the truth should be protected, and contracts of employment should not be allowed to conceal mismanagement or downright negligence.

 

[rederob]

Sure and that covers up a multitude of sins doesn't it ?

The time honoured way to media manage errors and hide the truth.

Whistle blowers who spill the beans and tell the truth should be protected, and contracts of employment should not be allowed to conceal mismanagement or downright negligence.

I am sure this topic has been discussed many times in other threads.

As to Dao Fu's comments, it seems to make sense that mixing vaccines - some which have high efficacy against the original virus but don't do so well against more infectious variants - is a better alternative than relying on just one product type. I thought that might be more newsworthy than an out of context beat up!

 

[cri123]

Is every age need vaccination?? Or there is any limit on age.

Or anyone knows the listed Hospitals or Health clinics for vaccination, Plz let me know

 

[sptrawler]

Anthony Fauci, sums it up pretty well, this is going to take a long time to sort out.

Anthony Fauci’s words of COVID warning for Australia

America’s top COVID adviser praised Australia’s response to the pandemic but warned that no country was safe until the virus was globally under control.

www.smh.com.au

From the article:
America’s top COVID adviser says Australia cannot rely on vaccines and border controls to protect its population, warning no country is safe while the virus is allowed to spread beyond its borders.
There would be no freedom from the virus for Australia or any country that had successfully suppressed it within its own communities until the overwhelming majority of the world’s population was vaccinated against COVID-19 and its spread was controlled globally, US President Joe Biden’s chief medical adviser said via video conference from his home office.
“As long as there’s the dynamic of virus replication somewhere, there will always be the threat of the emergence of variants which could then come back,” said the long-time director of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases at the US National Institute of Health.

“Even though most of the rest of the world is vaccinated, it can threaten the [countries] that [have] felt that they’ve controlled the virus, when they’re still quite vulnerable.
“If you want to maintain control you want to have control throughout the entire world.”
Dr Fauci’s comments follow a refusal by Australian Health Minister Greg Hunt to guarantee Australia’s borders will be open even if the entire country has been vaccinated against COVID-19.
The public health adviser to every US president since Ronald Reagan praised Australia’s response to the pandemic as among the best in the world thanks largely to a national cohesion that was in stark contrast to the splintered and politicised US attempts to control and eliminate the virus’ spread.

 

[rederob]

So much for the abundance of caution Morrison's team promised as the rollout failed to materialise as planned.
Some nations have banned AZ, but it's OK because not many will die, trust our health officials!
I won't be in any line offering AZ when there are clearly safer options.

 

[SirRumpole]

So much for the abundance of caution Morrison's team promised as the rollout failed to materialise as planned.
Some nations have banned AZ, but it's OK because not many will die, trust our health officials!
I won't be in any line offering AZ when there are clearly safer options.

So what if reactions to Pfizer come to light ?

If so, the whole thing is stuffed.

 

[Humid]

So much for the abundance of caution Morrison's team promised as the rollout failed to materialise as planned.
Some nations have banned AZ, but it's OK because not many will die, trust our health officials!
I won't be in any line offering AZ when there are clearly safer options.

But the rusted on Libs here will put on a Scammo spin and tell you hes saved us

 

[sptrawler]

But the rusted on Libs here will put on a Scammo spin and tell you hes saved us

Maaaaaate , you can always go down and ask for a shot, apparently there aren't many queues in W.A. ?

 

[Humid]

Maaaaaate , you can always go down and ask for a shot, apparently there aren't many queues in W.A. ?

Where?

 

[rederob]

So what if reactions to Pfizer come to light ?

If so, the whole thing is stuffed.

There are many alternatives, and dozens of other candidates are in phase 3 trials.
The other relative unknown is efficacy against variants.
It may be that one or two of the 4 types of vaccines have a lower efficacy than the best to date, but remain relatively unaffected by variants.

 

[sptrawler]

Where?

What you actually want a shot? the 48 year old lady who developed blood clots, died today.
I was joking, maybe Scomo did save you, who knows?
But I'm sure if you want to spend the money and sign a waiver, you could get one.
maybe the media, who are complaining about the slow roll out, could volunteer to head the queue for the shots.lol

 

[Humid]

What you actually want a shot? the 48 year old lady who developed blood clots, died today.
I was joking, maybe Scomo did save you, who knows?
But I'm sure if you want to spend the money and sign a waiver, you could get one.
maybe the media, who are complaining about the slow roll out, could volunteer to head the queue for the shots.lol

No where can I get this done
You sound like scummo all anouncement
NO substance

 

[Humid]

No where can I get this done
You sound like scummo all anouncement
NO substance

Are you Scotty from Mandurah?

 

[sptrawler]

Are you Scotty from Mandurah?

No where can I get this done
You sound like scummo all anouncement
NO substance

Mate I know English must be your second language, but if you want to find out where you can get a vaccine, or if you qualify for a vaccine use this site.
You really should try and improve your computer literacy, if you want to improve your work prospects.
I'm really busy looking after a 5 year old and a 10 year old, during school holidays, haven't you got an English speaking relative that could help you with this stuff. ?
https://www.healthywa.wa.gov.au/COVID19vaccine

 

[Humid]

Mate I know English must be your second language, but if you want to find out where you can get a vaccine, or if you qualify for a vaccine use this site.
You really should try and improve your computer literacy, if you want to improve your work prospects.
I'm really busy looking after a 5 year old and a 10 year old, during school holidays, haven't you got an English speaking relative that could help you with this stuff. ?
https://www.healthywa.wa.gov.au/COVID19vaccine

So you just made it up?
You fit well with a 5&10 year old

 

[macca]

So what if reactions to Pfizer come to light ?

If so, the whole thing is stuffed.

Pfizer is an synthetic mRNA, no one knows what will happen long term.

Short term seems OK after One shot, some folk are having problems with the Second shot because their immune system is heightened by the first shot.

There is concern in some circles that all auto immune diseases (with MS being one) may be accelerated by the injection being called a "vaccine"

Vitamin D is still the safest and still a secret, people dying in their thousands and still no publicity about things that have been proven to work in labs and trials

Hopefully one day the truth will out