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Coronavirus (COVID-19/SARS-CoV-2) outbreak discussion

Will the "Corona Virus" turn into a worldwide epidemic or fizzle out?

  • Yes

    Votes: 37 49.3%

  • No

    Votes: 9 12.0%

  • Bigger than SARS, but not worldwide epidemic (Black Death/bubonic plague)

    Votes: 25 33.3%

  • Undecided

    Votes: 4 5.3%
  • Total voters
    75
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COVID-19 vaccine tracker
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Researchers worldwide are working around the clock to find a vaccine against SARS-CoV-2, the virus causing the COVID-19 pandemic. Experts estimate that a fast-tracked vaccine development process could speed a successful candidate to market in approximately 12-18 months – if the process goes smoothly from conception to market availability.

This tracker lists COVID-19 vaccine candidates currently in Phase 1-3 trials, as well as major candidates in pre-clinical stages of development and research. Information will be updated weekly.

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COVID-19 therapeutics tracker
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As the COVID-19 pandemic continues, researchers and manufacturers are moving potential therapeutics into clinical trials at a dizzying pace. To date, just two therapeutics are approved to treat COVID-19: Avigan (favilavir) in China and Italy, and Veklury (remdesivir) in Japan. The search is on to find treatment candidates that lower mortality rates and lessen the severity of COVID-19 while the world waits for vaccine candidates to reach the market.

Potential therapies are being examined in several large international trials. The largest, SOLIDARITY, is led by the World Health Organization (WHO). More than 100 countries have joined SOLIDARITY to evaluate high-profile treatment candidates for COVID-19, including remdesivir; and lopinavir/ritonavir with and without interferon beta-1a.
 
Mass demonstrations, with people not wearing masks or social distancing, I suppose it is one way to achieve herd immunity.

https://www.smh.com.au/national/cor...death-toll-stands-at-102-20200602-p54ytt.html
Protests in top 25 virus hot spots in United States ignite fears of contagion
By AP


As demonstrators flooded streets across America to decry the killing of George Floyd, public health experts watched in alarm — the close proximity of protesters and their failures in many cases to wear masks, along with the police using tear gas, could fuel new transmissions of the coronavirus.

Many of the protests broke out in places where the virus is still circulating widely in the population.
In fact, an Associated Press review found that demonstrations have taken place in every one of the 25 U.S. communities with the highest concentrations of new cases. Some have seen major protests over multiple days, including Minneapolis-St. Paul, Chicago, Washington, D.C., and Los Angeles.

I guess the fact the riots, are in the same places where the virus has high transmission rates, tells us something.
 
Shocking New AP Report Shows WHO Actively Covered Up For China's Lies

Millions around the world have pondered how the WHO could have possibly been so completely duped by Beijing during the early days of the outbreak in January, when the organization parroted lies about the virus and praised Beijing as a "model" of pandemic response. Prior reports by the Associated Press and other Western media organizations have exposed how Beijing withheld critical information about the virus (including evidence of human-to-human spread) for days while China gobbled up all the PPE and other critical medical supplies.


After all, while we might not possess any direct evidence that the novel coronavirus leaked from a biolab in Wuhan, it's now become abundantly cleared that Beijing lied, and people died, and the WHO failed in its mission to safeguard the public health of the most vulnerable nations.


https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/shocking-new-ap-report-shows-who-actively-covered-chinas-lies
 
Note, I am not a pro-hydroxychloroquine advocate and absolutely think Trump's recommendation for it use was highly irresponsible. However, some recent studies on the dangers of its use are now highly suspect.

WHO to resume hydroxychloroquine trial after earlier halt over safety concerns
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2...oncerns?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter

Surgisphere: governments and WHO changed Covid-19 policy based on suspect data from tiny US company

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2...-world-health-organization-hydroxychloroquine
 

As I posted previously, the Doctors that first publicised its use only used it to improve the absorption of Zinc, they did not use it by itself.
 
The issues around hydroxychloroquine tiperfiyes what happens rushing to use a drug that hasn't faced proper trial testing, rolling the dice at best.
 
IFocus said:
The issues around hydroxychloroquine tiperfiyes what happens rushing to use a drug that hasn't faced proper trial testing, rolling the dice at best.
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I would highly disagree with that one as this compound has been used for 40y.
Now that the fake news around it has been debunked, will people try to guess why it is shot down thru even elaborate schemes?
hint: no patent anymore so no money in treatment using it
 

Agree about its long time use but the testing for that use was for healthy people in a different environment the problem around using it for Covid is no testing for when, how much, who is suitable, what stage of the disease can it be given people are often at chronically ill with Covid deaths door etc etc all this takes years of testing such are the controls require of any serious trials regarding drugs.

A friend of mine is involved in a blind drug trial currently and the controls are full on.

The rush for vaccines could well see another Thalidomide event, I wont be 1st in line to receive any unless it all gets out of control not that I am a antivaxer.
 
IFocus said:
Heres one for Macca re vitamins

Vitamin K found in some cheeses could help fight Covid-19, study suggests

https://www.theguardian.com/science...k-could-help-fight-coronavirus-study-suggests
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Interesting but it is rather annoying that Vitamin D is not front page news, I cannot help but think that the media is deliberately avoiding any mention of it

It is a proven fact that good Vitamin D levels help with all Upper Respiratory infections, including the common cold and the flu.

If we gave all the vulnerable sickly people a bottle of 200 x Vitamin D for Christmas we would not need to be pretending to vaccinate people for the flu.

USA research shows that in a good year the vaccination is almost as good as Vitamin D, in a bad year the flu shot is not worth a crumpet.
 
Better late than never, they really should be listening to me shouldn't they, this is what I advocated here on ASF months ago.

Am I smart, NO! but if there is an unbiased expert available I will listen to them, this is Exactly what Taiwan did Before Christmas.

How many people are now dead because Taiwan was not listened to by WHO, we all know why, should WHO bosses be considered culpable?

WHO
The World Health Organisation has updated its guidance to recommend that governments ask everyone to wear fabric face masks in public areas where there is a risk of transmission of COVID-19 to help reduce the spread of the pandemic disease.
In its new guidance, prompted by evidence from studies conducted in recent weeks, the WHO stressed that face masks were only one of a range of tools that can reduce the risk of viral transmission, and should not give a false sense of protection.
"We are advising governments to encourage that the general public wear a mask," the WHO's technical lead expert on COVID-19, Maria Van Kerkhove, told Reuters in an interview.
"And we specify a fabric mask – that is, a non-medical mask."

https://www.9news.com.au/world/coro...ehind-us/9be989e2-ee68-47d3-96c3-ff445809e16d

Surely we should all be wearing a mask when in enclosed spaces with strangers for an extended time, bus, train, plane etc
 
Brazil is going a China

Brazil stops reporting coronavirus death toll, as nation buckles under pandemic​

Brazil has taken the extraordinary step of stopping coronavirus death reporting, in move critics claim is an attempt to hide the true toll of the disease in Latin America's largest nation.​

The move on Saturday came after months of criticism from experts that Brazil's statistics are woefully deficient, and in some cases manipulated, so it may never be possible to understand the depth of the pandemic in the country.​

Brazil's last official numbers showed it had recorded over 34,000 deaths related to the coronavirus, the third-highest number in the world, just ahead of Italy.
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I have three separate GPs as clients. Over the last week I have seen all three, the latest one this morning.

My question to them was do you think the government response was right, underdone, or overdone.

All three made similar comments that probably the initial response was underdone but subsequently, massively, comprehensively overdone.

FWIW
 
It would seem the western world is Finally working out that Asia was right all along, perhaps that was why China bought all the masks they could find before telling the world about CV19

Mask up, no unnecessary crowds and carry on working, saves billions works just as well

First the USA then a German study last week found the mandatory use of masks slows growth in COVID-19 cases by 40 per cent.

https://www.smh.com.au/world/north-...an-hand-washing-us-study-20200614-p552fj.html
 
https://www.9news.com.au/world/coro...suggests/66033f41-fb10-4a5c-ba24-ba733119e93e
"Sometime in the middle of January, there was a change that allowed the virus to become more infectious. It doesn't mean it's more lethal," Haseltine said.
"It makes it about 10 times more infectious."
Other researchers have suspected this. In April, Bette Korber of Los Alamos National Laboratory and colleagues published their concerns, also on BioRxiv, calling the D614G mutation "of urgent concern" because it had become by far the most common strain spreading in Europe and the US.

Best of luck with the vaccine IMO.
 
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