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Will the "Corona Virus" turn into a worldwide epidemic or fizzle out?

  • Yes

    Votes: 37 49.3%

  • No

    Votes: 9 12.0%

  • Bigger than SARS, but not worldwide epidemic (Black Death/bubonic plague)

    Votes: 25 33.3%

  • Undecided

    Votes: 4 5.3%
  • Total voters
    75
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Smurf1976 said:
I see the point but the one thing you'll notice about anyone wearing a mask, a proper one that actually protects them and isn't just for show, is that they can't wait to get the damn thing off.

The one sure thing about masks is they make you rather hot especially if you're engaging in any form of physical exertion. Mask + physical work + warm weather = misery.

I can see some greater enthusiasm for being out and about at night if this becomes the norm.:2twocents
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I was in your camp early on.
Then I discovered that the typical cheap mask was not about preventing others from infecting me. Instead, it relied on the principal transfer chain being broken. That is, if I touched a surface with the infection then the mask stopped me from infecting myself because I could not then transfer the virus to my mouth or nose. Obviously, wearing glasses is the final line of defence.
Unless people are in regular close contact with others who are likely to be infected, N95 style masks are not necessary.
Mask wearing also seems to be increasingly "culturally" acceptable. I reckon one in 5 at the shops yesterday was wearing a mask, while a couple of weeks ago they were few and far between Maybe the fact that they were hard to get back then was also at issue.
Froggie and I don't agree with much, but on wearing masks, I am a convert and advocate .
With regard to "social distancing" my personal view is that if you have broken the infection chain by wearing a mask and glasses, and you literally keep your hands infection free after touching any surface, its just a useful layer of protection for people unable to do what I do.
I am now also able to obsess with hand sanitising, having discovered that both Woollies and Coles sell sanitiser at their service desks rather than on shelves!
 
bellenuit said:


Biden at last beginning to speak out. But he sounds terrible, slurring his words. I fear he may not have the stamina to go the course with Trump. If he sound like this in a pre-recored interview, he will have difficulty in a live debate. Not that Trump will be any better, but Biden needs to win the debates decisively
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Slurring his words ? Don't think so. Certainly not as crisp as say Obama but I think that may reflect both his age and poorish quality sound recording.

The message was clear. Pointed out the pandemic prepartions that Trump had destroyed. Highlighted the fact that Trump was initially very effusive in his support for Chinas response to the epidemic.

Also highlighted the need for an independent international investigation into the cause of the outbreak when this is over.

I was a bit surprised he didn't highlight the lack of preparation for the epidemic by Trump during February.
 
basilio said:
I was a bit surprised he didn't highlight the lack of preparation for the epidemic by Trump during February.
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Probably because the democrats were among the ones having destroyed the readiness (since the Clinton year, and from both sides, basically as the risk of biowarfare with the USSR disappeared)
And he was with Obama while this was going on, maybe a good warning call for it could be much worse
 
qldfrog said:
Probably because the democrats were among the ones having destroyed the readiness (since the Clinton year, and from both sides, basically as the risk of biowarfare with the USSR disappeared)
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Nuh. Complete and utter mistruth.
Another Trump BS story.
Trump in fact undermined the structures and preparation that Obama had put in place to deal with another epidemic.
 
dutchie said:
China's operation Cover-Up: RICHARD PENDLEBURY and JOHN NASH detail the most shocking part of Beijing's role in the coronavirus crisis - how it hid the truth about the virus... and put the world in peril

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/ar...JOHN-NASH-Chinas-role-coronavirus-crisis.html

China lied, people died!
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You are a reprehensible Sinophobe who constantly references crap.
Within 2 days of the Chinese government being advised by the Wuhan Health Commission the WHO was advised.
You have zero medical knowledge and believe journalists who also have no medical knowledge. At best they could have been advised a week earlier with perfect knowledge and the benefit of hindsight. But doctors had first to rule out all possible causes including SARS, MERS, and bird flu. Go and talk to an epidemiologist about how long this takes because you have no idea.
 
Anyone else noticing Singapore case numbers are rocketing up. I thought they were one of the well controlled nations wrt to the virus. Probably I was mistaken? Up 20% today but have held their death numbers down. 2200 cases not that long ago with 8 deaths (49th position in # cases). Now 8000 cases and 11 deaths (32nd position). Population 5.8M.
 
jbocker said:
Anyone else noticing Singapore case numbers are rocketing up. I thought they were one of the well controlled nations wrt to the virus. Probably I was mistaken? Up 20% today but have held their death numbers down. 2200 cases not that long ago with 8 deaths (49th position in # cases). Now 8000 cases and 11 deaths (32nd position). Population 5.8M.
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I read it is a case of "invisible helpers" like so many Asian countries they import workers from the Phillippines to do the menial jobs.

These workers are on a contract and are housed in dormitories, there can be up to 8 people in a room and they were not checked for CV19, this is where most of the recent cases are coming from (according to the article)

Never been there but it sounds reasonable
 
macca said:
I read it is a case of "invisible helpers" like so many Asian countries they import workers from the Phillippines to do the menial jobs.

These workers are on a contract and are housed in dormitories, there can be up to 8 people in a room and they were not checked for CV19, this is where most of the recent cases are coming from (according to the article)

Never been there but it sounds reasonable
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I had not heard of this before. It would seem the 'servants' would have infected their masters and others right in their own workplace (or is it menial home duties they performed which could be worse as this is amongst family homes where you are meant to lock down.)
 
macca said:
I read it is a case of "invisible helpers" like so many Asian countries they import workers from the Phillippines to do the menial jobs.
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Actually I meant to add that the Mrs sacked her little helper too in fear of the Covid being brought into house. I sleep outside now with the dog. Not so bad he don't growl as much.
 
sptrawler said:
Absolutely, the most articulate President, since Morgan Freeman.
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What about Bill Pullman, then?
“We will not go quietly into the night. We will not vanish without a fight. We’re going to live on. We’re going to survive....."
 
Dona Ferentes said:
What about Bill Pullman, then?
“We will not go quietly into the night. We will not vanish without a fight. We’re going to live on. We’re going to survive....."
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Yes there has been some really memorable Presidents.:D
Can't wait to see Gary Busey, in 'The Trump Years'.:xyxthumbs
 
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