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Coronavirus (COVID-19/SARS-CoV-2) outbreak discussion

Will the "Corona Virus" turn into a worldwide epidemic or fizzle out?

  • Yes

    Votes: 37 49.3%

  • No

    Votes: 9 12.0%

  • Bigger than SARS, but not worldwide epidemic (Black Death/bubonic plague)

    Votes: 25 33.3%

  • Undecided

    Votes: 4 5.3%
  • Total voters
    75
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No surprises here.

G7 backing for WHO leaves Trump isolated at virtual summit
Leaders voice strong support for UN agency after US suspension of its funding

Donald Trump found himself isolated among western leaders at a virtual G7 summit, as they expressed strong support for the World Health Organization after the US’s suspension of its funding.

Health officials around the world have condemned the US president’s decision to stop his country’s funding for the UN agency, amid a crisis that has left more than 2 million people infected and almost 140,000 dead.

On Thursday, G7 leaders voiced their backing for the WHO and urged international co-operation. Immediately after the hour-long conference call, a spokesman for Angela Merkel said that the German chancellor had argued that “the pandemic can only be overcome with a strong and co-ordinated international response”. The spokesman said Merkel “expressed support for the WHO as well as a number of other partners”.

The Canadian prime minister, Justin Trudeau, said: “There is a need for international coordination and the WHO is an important part of that collaboration and coordination. We recognise that there have been questions asked, but at the same time it is really important we stay coordinated as we move through this.”

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2...r-who-leaves-trump-isolated-at-virtual-summit
 
bellenuit said:
The incompetence of the Trump administration has zero to do with how China initially covered up the virus and subsequently condemned restriction of travel to/from China while maintain an extreme lockdown on intra-China travel.
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The consistency of Sinophobes in having no evidence to support their claims is mind numbing.
Chinese Government officials at the national level were advised of an unknown virus by the provincial health authority on 30 December.
China advised the WHO on 31 December.
CCTV media twice covered the issue on 31 December and the Wuhan Health Commission added known details to a website linked here previously.
Several Asian nations immediately took precautionary measures.
Despite Trump's assertions, his Health Department was in regular contact with China about the virus on 3 January.

A reason the WHO has praised China is that no epidemic notification has ever been as rapid. The disease itself had not been identified until 3 January, and it was not possible to confirm that isolated patients all had this disease until 7 January. Once China was absolutely certain of the cause they released the gene sequence to the WHO and the rest of the world on 12 January.

The infamous "Banquet in Wuhan" went ahead on 18 January because health officials had no definitive proof that human-to-human transmission was occurring. Without that proof the health authority was not able to prevent Wuhan City officials from proceeding. From this date onward, things went pear shaped - or logarithmic - especially as we now know about asymptomatic spread.

@bellenuit continues his distraction with China being upset that countries were restricting inbound flights. At the time, China had only quarantined Wuhan, and all other international travel to and from China was business as usual. They and other Asian nations had enacted travel protocols consistent with SARS spread, and deemed that as adequate. Western nations, instead, sat on their hands. America, as an example, restricted Chinese nationals from entering early on, but all Americans were simply welcomed back from China - almost half a million, before locking down.

With the benefit of hindsight China ultimately became one of the most difficult countries to enter. With the benefit of hindsight lots of things could have been done smarter. However, at very worst there was a 24 hour delay between China's national officials being aware of the virus and them warning the WHO. Concurrently this information was on CCTV several times and on the Wuhan Health Commission's website. The notion that there was a coverup is a beatup from ill-informed Sinophobes who are happy to post and link to assumptions and innuendo when they cannot invent yet another conspiracy theory.
 
Rederob, can you point me to any empirical evidence that the virus came from bats originating from the wet markets?
 
basilio said:
No surprises here.

G7 backing for WHO leaves Trump isolated at virtual summit
Leaders voice strong support for UN agency after US suspension of its funding

Donald Trump found himself isolated among western leaders at a virtual G7 summit, as they expressed strong support for the World Health Organization after the US’s suspension of its funding.

Health officials around the world have condemned the US president’s decision to stop his country’s funding for the UN agency, amid a crisis that has left more than 2 million people infected and almost 140,000 dead.

On Thursday, G7 leaders voiced their backing for the WHO and urged international co-operation. Immediately after the hour-long conference call, a spokesman for Angela Merkel said that the German chancellor had argued that “the pandemic can only be overcome with a strong and co-ordinated international response”. The spokesman said Merkel “expressed support for the WHO as well as a number of other partners”.

The Canadian prime minister, Justin Trudeau, said: “There is a need for international coordination and the WHO is an important part of that collaboration and coordination. We recognise that there have been questions asked, but at the same time it is really important we stay coordinated as we move through this.”

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2...r-who-leaves-trump-isolated-at-virtual-summit
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Didn't he say it was "a hold" on the money?
Generally that means a delay of payment before democrat impeach him.

What's stopping them from funding it more?
Seems to me a few are not pulling their weight.
Wtf is France and Canada doing.

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rederob said:
The consistency of Sinophobes in having no evidence to support their claims is mind numbing.
Chinese Government officials at the national level were advised of an unknown virus by the provincial health authority on 30 December.
China advised the WHO on 31 December.
CCTV media twice covered the issue on 31 December and the Wuhan Health Commission added known details to a website linked here previously.
Several Asian nations immediately took precautionary measures.
Despite Trump's assertions, his Health Department was in regular contact with China about the virus on 3 January.

A reason the WHO has praised China is that no epidemic notification has ever been as rapid. The disease itself had not been identified until 3 January, and it was not possible to confirm that isolated patients all had this disease until 7 January. Once China was absolutely certain of the cause they released the gene sequence to the WHO and the rest of the world on 12 January.

The infamous "Banquet in Wuhan" went ahead on 18 January because health officials had no definitive proof that human-to-human transmission was occurring. Without that proof the health authority was not able to prevent Wuhan City officials from proceeding. From this date onward, things went pear shaped - or logarithmic - especially as we now know about asymptomatic spread.

@bellenuit continues his distraction with China being upset that countries were restricting inbound flights. At the time, China had only quarantined Wuhan, and all other international travel to and from China was business as usual. They and other Asian nations had enacted travel protocols consistent with SARS spread, and deemed that as adequate. Western nations, instead, sat on their hands. America, as an example, restricted Chinese nationals from entering early on, but all Americans were simply welcomed back from China - almost half a million, before locking down.

With the benefit of hindsight China ultimately became one of the most difficult countries to enter. With the benefit of hindsight lots of things could have been done smarter. However, at very worst there was a 24 hour delay between China's national officials being aware of the virus and them warning the WHO. Concurrently this information was on CCTV several times and on the Wuhan Health Commission's website. The notion that there was a coverup is a beatup from ill-informed Sinophobes who are happy to post and link to assumptions and innuendo when they cannot invent yet another conspiracy theory.
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Protocols after SARS were not met.
It was a failure. You are a shill.
If there was nothing to hide:
Doctors don't get arrested.
Labs don't get official orders to stop testing.
And data does not get withheld.

Human transmission was shown early.
 
All the countries around China started early. Nothing to do with hindsight.

Taiwan, once again started December 31st
 
moXJO said:
Protocols after SARS were not met.
It was a failure. You are a shill.
If there was nothing to hide:
Doctors don't get arrested.
Labs don't get official orders to stop testing.
And data does not get withheld.

Human transmission was shown early.
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My guess is they know exactly where the virus came from, but they want the heat to come off before making it public, last thing anyone wants is global conflict.
As you said in an earlier post the truth will come out.
 
sptrawler said:
My guess is they know exactly where the virus came from, but they want the heat to come off before making it public, last thing anyone wants is global conflict.
As you said in an earlier post the truth will come out.
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If you look at the SARS post I made it is basically following that script.
 
haha:
Will the "Corona Virus" turn into a worldwide epidemic or fizzle out?

how many people said yes or no to a non-yes-or-no question ?
 
China's Wuhan revises up total coronavirus death toll by 1,290 — a 50 per cent increase​

The total number of people who have died in Wuhan, the initial epicentre of the global coronavirus outbreak, has been revised sharply up.

City officials on Friday increased the death toll by 1,290, to 3,869, state-run CCTV reported.

This represents a 50 per cent increase on the previous official total of 2,579 in the Chinese city.

Confirmed cases were also increased, by 325 to 50,333.

Many suspect China's official figures remain conservative, speculating there were more victims in the early weeks of the outbreak who died without being tested.


 
Early peek at data on Gilead coronavirus drug
suggests patients are responding to treatment​


A Chicago hospital treating severe Covid-19 patients with Gilead Sciences’ antiviral medicine remdesivir in a closely watched clinical trial is seeing rapid recoveries in fever and respiratory symptoms, with nearly all patients discharged in less than a week, STAT has learned.

Remdesivir was one of the first medicines identified as having the potential to impact SARS-CoV-2, the novel coronavirus that causes Covid-19, in lab tests. The entire world has been waiting for results from Gilead’s clinical trials, and positive results would likely lead to fast approvals by the Food and Drug Administration and other regulatory agencies. If safe and effective, it could become the first approved treatment against the disease.

The University of Chicago Medicine recruited 125 people with Covid-19 into Gilead’s two Phase 3 clinical trials. Of those people, 113 had severe disease. All the patients have been treated with daily infusions of remdesivir.

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More on link below -

 
https://finance.yahoo.com/news/anal...-gileads-coronavirus-treatment-133340939.html
To be warned
And a copy of a link i added in the wrong thread
https://asiatimes.com/2020/04/french-prof-sparks-furor-with-lab-leak-theory/
The last point about being a leak from a lab, is probably well known by intelligence services around the world.note the tone from the article..asia time...just a nobel prize in medicine..finder of hiv virus..what does he know...
What will this turn into?
Potential war so scary..so wish it was just an accidental transmission from a bat in a remote province
 
qldfrog said:
And a copy of a link i added in the wrong thread
https://asiatimes.com/2020/04/french-prof-sparks-furor-with-lab-leak-theory/
The last point about being a leak from a lab, is probably well known by intelligence services around the world.note the tone from the article..asia time...just a nobel prize in medicine..finder of hiv virus..what does he know...
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Sadly, he's been an outcast in the world of science for the past decade because his works lack scientific merit. So becoming a conspiracy theorist certainly makes a lot of sense.
Now I have a theory that Trump got into office because little green men manipulated the vote, and continue to be his policy advisors. That would explain a lot!
 
rederob said:
Sadly, he's been an outcast in the world of science for the past decade because his works lack scientific merit. So becoming a conspiracy theorist certainly makes a lot of sense.
Now I have a theory that Trump got into office because little green men manipulated the vote, and continue to be his policy advisors. That would explain a lot!
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And your credentials?
 
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