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Coronavirus (COVID-19/SARS-CoV-2) outbreak discussion

Will the "Corona Virus" turn into a worldwide epidemic or fizzle out?

  • Yes

    Votes: 37 49.3%

  • No

    Votes: 9 12.0%

  • Bigger than SARS, but not worldwide epidemic (Black Death/bubonic plague)

    Votes: 25 33.3%

  • Undecided

    Votes: 4 5.3%
  • Total voters
    75
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Countries with large informal economies are likely to be in big trouble. Under-resourced, living essentially from day to day, resistant to authorities.

An unfurling likely disaster
 
I find it funny that the media goes on about mixed messages from the Government, regarding the corona virus, then I see these to headlines on the Herald Sun web page.:
"Parliament recalled amid warning vaccine could take 18 months"
"Aussie health workers given covid-19 vaccine"
The articles are behind a pay wall and probably explain the issues, but the headlines certainly cause confusion.
 
About headline and fake news from their ABC

NSW coronavirus lockdown to be lifted in three months, police reveal
18 MIN AGO
Then you read
NSW Police Commissioner Mick Fuller said the new powers which permit police to fine people for disobeying isolation orders will last for 90 days.

"People will have got the message by then, hopefully," he said.
 
Most people here would have seen the John Hopkins University COVID 19 website. Outstanding analysis of how the virus is tracking across the world. I used it yesterday as a reference for my post on the speed of the increase in US cases.

I checked it again this morning and for some reason figures for the US weren't shown. ??
Was this just my computer ?
https://coronavirus.jhu.edu/map.html

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Just rechecked it. US figures came up. Must have been doing an update.
 
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Key UN climate talks, Cop26, that were due to take place in Glasgow in November have been postponed until 2021, it has been announced. The UN’s climate change chief, Patricia Espinosa has also called Covid-19 the “most urgent threat facing humanity”,
 
Genuine question:
Has anyone read any report about correlation between mortality rate from covid-19 and smoking?
Australian death rate so far is relatively low vs China, Spain, Italy and France/Belgium.
France not counting aged care deaths, it is not a matter of age.
So what: temperature?
Or maybe the smoking rate in the currently contaminated group is actually low in Australia?
Anyone?
 
I can see what you're saying and smoking may well be a contributing factor but not the main one as Russia has an even higher smoking rate than China and the UK and USA have a lower one. Interesting article on Vitamin D's protective effect on respiratory infections:
https://www.bmj.com/content/356/bmj.i6583
 
Only info I've seen regarding underlying conditions is this from New York.
 

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Although age is a big factor, early reports from Wuhan showed a huge difference in the death rate between elderly men and elderly women, the former being much higher. This was attributed to the fact that very many elderly men smoked whereas elderly women rarely smoked.
 
as noted , the death figures from France do not include age care residents
so basically younger than 85y old or so
yet we got a death toll of above 4000 out of 56,989 cases... 4 out of 57 or 7%..even worse when you consider the fact that people detected recently may still die ..

The detected cases I agree are the ones feeling sick, there are more undetected healthy or untreated contaminated
no issue with that but compared with Australia 4000 cases 22 deaths 0.6%..I know our wave is coming and we will see a delay but it is still a very big difference with similar decent health systems involved
I get the feeling we (aka the world) are still missing something big?
Different strain mortality? factor such as prescribed medicine?Smoking?
For info:
In France, everyone is saying DO NOT USE ibuprofen, or aspirin, paracetamol only so in case of a headache, you know what to take
 
Yes, the theory is taking anti inflammatory drugs allow the virus to take hold.
 
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