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Will the "Corona Virus" turn into a worldwide epidemic or fizzle out?

  • Yes

    Votes: 37 49.3%

  • No

    Votes: 9 12.0%

  • Bigger than SARS, but not worldwide epidemic (Black Death/bubonic plague)

    Votes: 25 33.3%

  • Undecided

    Votes: 4 5.3%
  • Total voters
    75
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I can see three cruisers off the coast here in NSW. They have been sitting there a while.
 
moXJO said:
I can see three cruisers off the coast here in NSW. They have been sitting there a while.
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News last night said there were 11 cruise ships (I hope they weren't cruisers!) and over 2,500 passengers not allowed to berth. And then there's the crew ... what is the ratio; close to 1:1?

(elsewhere, Senator Payne said ... there were also over 3,000 Australians on more than 30 cruise ships around the world at the moment.)

and sadly, blame game etc, part of the challenge lies in our Federal system. Commonwealth has border controls, army, revenue raising, while States have health , and police and education
 
Tasmania is tightening up the border rules. Isolating the States and allowing them to take independent measures may be effective, some of the less populated States may be able to eradicate it effectively. The more populated States of NSW and Victoria will probably have a lot more problems unfortunately.
Time will tell, a lot will be learnt.
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-03...e-ship-off-wa-test-positive-covid-19/12091884
From the article:
Tourists in Tasmania have been ordered to go home by the state's premier, who has also implored people not to visit the island amid the coronavirus pandemic.

People staying in hotels, hostels, bed and breakfasts, campsites and boarding houses have until midnight on Sunday to leave their accommodation, the state government has announced.

"I'm sorry to say that, but go home," Premier Peter Gutwein told reporters on Thursday.

"Unfortunately there will be some dislocation for people but I make no apologies for working hard to keep Tasmanians safe."

Mr Gutwein also implored non-essential visitors to stay away, noting a mandatory 14-day quarantine period on arrival for anyone not considered essential.

"We're built on tourism so it hurts me to say that but do not come and put Tasmanians at risk," he said.

"We're an island and we are unique in that regard. We have used our island state as an advantage."
 
sptrawler said:
Orr do you have a link to an official recognition, that COVID-19 has developed through natural process?
It would probably clear everything up for members of the forum, some official info as to the origin would be good.:xyxthumbs
Just my opinion.
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Putting up any science backed opinion in these pages is a fools errand Trawler.
My I suggest though; Ask yourself what you know of Viruses and the history of Virology, it's long well documented and has a proven track record.
Then...
From whom are you now absorbing information and what they may know of the same. From there start to draw an outline.
Ockhams razor will do you no harm at this point.
 
sptrawler said:
If this is true, one would think the cocktail would be rolled out in Spain and Italy, as there are plenty there who could prove it one way or another.
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It's banned in certain countries as it made malaria mutate, or something
 
I had to go to the local shopping center today, there wern't many people there and those that were kept distance between themselves. The message must be getting through, also there wasn't much traffic on the roads, which is very unusual.
 
From this article, it would appear W.A is getting set for a further tightening of movement.
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-03...ed-to-keep-children-home-from-school/12092596

From the article:
The WA Premier has asked parents to keep children home from school if possible, with the last day of the current term brought forward to April 3.
The measure is to allow teachers to work on preparing remote teaching resources for term two.

Students who must attend school, for example children whose parents must work or children who cannot be cared for safely, are encouraged to attend and will continued to be taught until April 6.
After that public schools will provide supervision only, not teaching, until the end of term on April 9.
When asked whether earlier medical advice around the safety of sending children to school had changed, Ms Ellery said it had not.

"[This is about] ensuring that those people who need to stay working in the current circumstances can," she said.

"It is about recognising our staff need time to develop and prepare and do the professional development for what in term two is going to be a very different way of delivering.

"And it's recognising significant numbers of parents are already keeping their children at home."

Ms Ellery said term two would "look different"
I think it will be a combination of physical attendance at schools, maybe some schools, maybe all schools, plus a combination of distanced education which will be hard copy packs and online," Ms Ellery said.
 
A french situation debrief, last night aka this morning there:
1331 deaths in hospital (aged care homes call EHPAD deaths not counted and very high: multiple digits per center )
worse:2 827 in ICU, 33% are less than 60y old
The total number of ICU beds in France was 4100 , there are army tent hospital being built etc as we speak
so 70% of ICu beds occupied by virus victims..not a good time for a stroke
 
Friend just watched a guy spit on all the pedestrian light buttons in center of Sydney(Aussie). I've also heard lift buttons, door handles and on fruit and veg.
 
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