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Coronavirus (COVID-19/SARS-CoV-2) outbreak discussion

Will the "Corona Virus" turn into a worldwide epidemic or fizzle out?

  • Yes

    Votes: 37 49.3%

  • No

    Votes: 9 12.0%

  • Bigger than SARS, but not worldwide epidemic (Black Death/bubonic plague)

    Votes: 25 33.3%

  • Undecided

    Votes: 4 5.3%
  • Total voters
    75
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No idea what happened there but click to expand
 
Wouldn't surprise me if a journalist madeup that facebook page just to report on it.

"Free" news websites survive on clickbait not genuine journalism.
 
The regulators never cease to amaze me with their risk adverse blinkered approach.
The TGA have held up a number of RAT tests because they may or may not be s accurate with the latest strains.
FromThe hated Murdoch press
What difference would it make if they let them through while doing their testing.
if people cannot get the Rats, what do they think will happen?
There will still be infected people running around whether the TGA approves it or not.
Will we we be worse off?
Its a pandemic for Christs sake, they have been in use in other countries, don't they think these other countries have had them tested?
Or is just that we are gold plated health?
Useless as t1ts on a bull.
Mick
 
At the risk of upsetting some, there is another study on the Use of Ivermectin as a treatment for COVID.
It is only in Brazil, which may not class as a western medical study, but nonetheless, its worth reading.
From Cureus
Its not definitive, but it does mean that there should be some further research without the hysterical denunciations about "horse Medicne".
I am always surprised that people who take blood thinning agents such as Warfarin are not accused of taking Rat Poison, as warfarin or coumadin, are the rat killing properties in these rodent poisons.
Mick
 
mullokintyre said:
Its not definitive, but it does mean that there should be some further research without the hysterical denunciations about "horse Medicine".
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The unfortunate (possibly sad) outcome of what are some very positive looking results Mick,

Is that many will continue to dismiss Ivermectin unequivocally, simply because

The Study was "Observational"

That is correct, but its a bit like a using a "Moving Average" in technical analysis.

Doesn't prove future direction, but can give a pretty fair indication based on observation/historic data
 

I guess I need my head read, still. If Channel 7/9/CNN don't endorse it, it's incorrect.



Dr. Kory: Ivermectin Can Solve This Pandemic​

A Brazilian paper published in the last 2 weeks "is one of the most remarkable studies in the history of medicine because it included complete data on 160K people in the city of Itajaí. That health ministry, in June 2020, offered its entire [population] the opportunity to take Ivermectin as a preventative; 113K decided to [take it] and ~50K did not even though the group that elected to take it was sicker, older, more overweight, [and had] much more disease, they got [Covid] 50% less, they went to the hospital 68% less, and they died 70% less often.”

Dr Pierre Kory goes on to point out similar incredible results in Argentina, Peru, and Japan. Within weeks of deploying Ivermectin, “the hospitalization rates reported out of Japan were lower than at any time during the pandemic. That medication works. And when you deploy it in an early test and treat strategy, you can cure and solve this pandemic.”​

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Ivermectin Prophylaxis Used for COVID-19: A Citywide, Prospective, Observational Study of 223,128 Subjects Using Propensity Score Matching​

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Results - Hospitalization and mortality rates in ivermectin users and non-users in propensity score-matched analysis​

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As described in Table 2, after employing PSM, of the 6,068 subjects (3,034 in each group), there were 44 hospitalizations among ivermectin users (1.6% hospitalization rate) and 99 hospitalizations (3.3% hospitalization rate) among ivermectin non-users, a 56% reduction in hospitalization rate (RR, 0.44; 95% CI, 0.31-0.63). When adjustment for variables was employed, the reduction in hospitalization rate was 67% (RR, 0.33; 95% CI, 023-0.66; p < 0.0001).​
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There were 25 deaths among ivermectin users (0.8% mortality rate) and 79 deaths among non-ivermectin users (2.6% mortality rate), a 68% reduction in mortality rate (RR, 0.32; 95% CI, 0.20-0.49). When PSM was adjusted, reduction in mortality rate was 70% (RR, 0.30; 95% CI, 0.19-0.46; p < 0.0001).​


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mullokintyre said:
Its not definitive, but it does mean that there should be some further research without the hysterical denunciations about "horse Medicne".
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It was pulled from medical science journals but gets regurgitated here yet again.
There are more RCTs in progress that should give a better idea of Ivermectin's efficacy, but there are already a number of proven effective treatments in use so at best it might prove an adjunct to them.
 
The long COVID issue is probably overshadowed a bit by the focus on serious illnesses and deaths. But the evidence is there that many people have long term problems after even a mild infection.

The research on the issue is happening .

Long Covid: doctors find ‘antibody signature’ for patients most at risk

Low levels of certain antibodies found to be more common in those who go on to develop long Covid
www.theguardian.com
 

NSW records 29 COVID deaths, push for booster uptake intensifies​


The NSW Health Minister says the number of people getting a COVID-19 vaccine booster shot isn't good enough as hundreds of thousands of appointments go to waste.​
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Over 36 per cent of eligible people in NSW have had their third COVID-19 jab but Health Minister Brad Hazzard said that was not high enough.​
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"The numbers of boosters are not where we need them to be to keep people safe," Mr Hazzard said.​
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She said there was also a growing trend of people who had already contracted COVID not getting boosted.​
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"You still need to have it, we cannot reiterate this enough," Ms Pearce said.​



How about NO!
Growing trend? No, common sense more like it.

If you have had 2 shots and Covid, why would you get a booster?
Makes no sense.
Go and get a booster jab which in around 3 months is gone from your body yet increase risk in myocarditis and potentially weaken your immune system.
 
Anti-vaxxers hold emergency meeting to prepare new excuses, after provisional approval of Novavax




An emergency meeting of vaccine sceptic Australians has been ALL CAPS typed into Telegram groups after Australia granted provisional approval for the use of the Novavax vaccine.

Many have said they are holding off on getting vaccinated until the arrival of Novavax, and will now have to invent new elaborate conspiracy theories to explain why they will avoid getting jabbed.

“It was a pretty solid plan to begin with. Even we could see this government was terrible at organising anything that might be needed to contain COVID. The Government forgetting to order Pfizer vaccines was a huge win for us – it meant we didn’t need to start making excuses for ages.

“But this is the fourth vaccine they’ve approved now, it gets tricky every time we need to move the goal posts,” a spokesperson for the group said.

Some in the group are already claiming that Novovax was developed by Hillary Clinton as a way of controlling people’s votes in the next Presidential election. Others say Novovax includes an ingredient which forces you to like Tom Hanks.

“I thought Novovax was going to be ok. But it turns out it’s imbedded with a chip that downloads Microsoft 365 into your elbow. No thanks”.

Anti-vaxxers hold emergency meeting to prepare new excuses, after provisional approval of Novavax

"We're going to need some new conspiracy theories"
www.theshovel.com.au
 
basilio said:
Anti-vaxxers hold emergency meeting to prepare new excuses, after provisional approval of Novavax
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Lol, Aussies love a little satire of course.

Too much however can make the "contributor" (Shovel) look more like a struggling out of work comedian

Good name for their website however
 
Typical example of fear messaging from one of the most egregious reptilian shape shifters out there.

This was no mistake, even 5he correction massively overblown, it's all about the psyop... absolutely shameful.

 
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