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It would probably already have been here, before China let the cat out of the bag.
It would probably already have been here, before China let the cat out of the bag.2 day lock down isn't really a lock down at all. the virus will just move through. maybe they should have cut off the whole continent. an island during the 1918 flu was spared in this manner.
do you personally know the author of that?
Because it kinda sounds like the random emails that circulate round my grandmothers email lists.
Here is the original tweet, judge for yourself.
I don’t know the guy who tweeted it? And the author isn’t named from what I can see.
i have no doubt the situation in Italy is serious, but that account just stinks of a random viral email that gets spread around.
maybe it’s a language thing?
This is American but pretty good
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"My job is not to scare you out of your wits, it's to scare you into your wits."
Check out that story. Very sobering. Very powerful sting in the last 30 secionds as well.
Jason Van Schoor isn’t the author of that post, he is the guy that cut and pasted it, the original source isn’t named.Public profile - Jason Van Schoor | HealthManagement.org
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Jason Van Schoor. Please log into your account to view faculty contact details. Positions. Clinical Fellow Registrar in Intensive Care Critical Care Unit, University ...
Real doctor. Not a fake.
Jason Van Schoor isn’t the author of that post, he is the guy that cut and pasted it, the original source isn’t named.
As I said I have no doubt the situation is pretty hectic in Italy, just the wording and layout of the document seems so fake, as I said it might just be language differences.
[/QUOTE]The situation in Italy
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Jason Van Schoor
From a well respected friend and intensivist/A&E consultant who is currently in northern Italy:
1/ ‘I feel the pressure to give you a quick personal update about what is happening in Italy, and also give some quick direct advice about what you should do.
2/ First, Lumbardy is the most developed region in Italy and it has a extraordinary good healthcare, I have worked in Italy, UK and Aus and don’t make the mistake to think that what is happening is happening in a 3rd world country.
3/ The current situation is difficult to imagine and numbers do not explain things at all. Our hospitals are overwhelmed by Covid-19, they are running 200% capacity
4/ We’ve stopped all routine, all ORs have been converted to ITUs and they are now diverting or not treating all other emergencies like trauma or strokes. There are hundreds of pts with severe resp failure and many of them do not have access to anything above a reservoir mask.
5/ Patients above 65 or younger with comorbidities are not even assessed by ITU, I am not saying not tubed, I’m saying not assessed and no ITU staff attends when they arrest. Staff are working as much as they can but they are starting to get sick and are emotionally overwhelmed.
6/ My friends call me in tears because they see people dying in front of them and they con only offer some oxygen. Ortho and pathologists are being given a leaflet and sent to see patients on NIV. PLEASE STOP, READ THIS AGAIN AND THINK.
7/ We have seen the same pattern in different areas a week apart, and there is no reason that in a few weeks it won’t be the same everywhere, this is the pattern:
8/ 1)A few positive cases, first mild measures, people are told to avoid ED but still hang out in groups, everyone says not to panick
2)Some moderate resp failures and a few severe ones that need tube, but regular access to ED is significantly reduced so everything looks great
9/ 3)Tons of patients with moderate resp failure, that overtime deteriorate to saturate ICUs first, then NIVs, then CPAP hoods, then even O2.
4)Staff gets sick so it gets difficult to cover for shifts, mortality spikes also from all other causes that can’t be treated properly.
10/ Everything about how to treat them is online but the only things that will make a difference are: do not be afraid of massively strict measures to keep people safe,
11/ if governments won’t do this at least keep your family safe, your loved ones with history of cancer or diabetes or any transplant will not be tubed if they need it even if they are young. By safe I mean YOU do not attend them and YOU decide who does and YOU teach them how to.
12/ Another typical attitude is read and listen to people saying things like this and think “that’s bad dude” and then go out for dinner because you think you’ll be safe.
13/ We have seen it, you won’t be if you don’t take it seriously. I really hope it won’t be as bad as here but prepare
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South Korea took it seriously and has essentially beaten the disease. Italy, not as much but now is doing its best.An interesting point to note, is that although the virus has spread geographically, there is about 10,500 less infected people today than there was about a month ago when the number of active cases peaked at over 58,000.
We are seeing active cases trend up again as it has spread outside of China, but it it probable that the the active cases will peak again as these new countries precautions begin to take effect and we may see active cases down trending again shortly.
Maybe language, maybe the constraints of Twitter, but the details check out, VC.Jason Van Schoor isn’t the author of that post, he is the guy that cut and pasted it, the original source isn’t named.
As I said I have no doubt the situation is pretty hectic in Italy, just the wording and layout of the document seems so fake, as I said it might just be language differences.
South Korea took it seriously and has essentially beaten the disease. Italy, not as much but now is doing its best.
Unfortunately the USA let it run for 6 weeks without testing, due to pandemic section of government being effectively shut down 2 years ago and the subsequent inability to conduct extensive testing.
Now they have finally developed a test we will see a massive outbreak has already occurred. Look at all the Aussies coming back from the USA testing positive lately.
Also the way their economy works with part time workers and no sick leave, no way of feeding the family if a worker stops because they are a bit sick and the poor health system, I can't see it being controlled easily.
The USA will be the problem this month.
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