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Will the "Corona Virus" turn into a worldwide epidemic or fizzle out?

  • Yes

    Votes: 37 49.3%

  • No

    Votes: 9 12.0%

  • Bigger than SARS, but not worldwide epidemic (Black Death/bubonic plague)

    Votes: 25 33.3%

  • Undecided

    Votes: 4 5.3%
  • Total voters
    75
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mullokintyre said:
So what has that got to do with modelling?
Are you saying its a model of the daily cases? Or is it actual data.
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You continue to display a poor understanding of the model Sutton referred to, and just dig yourself into a deeper hole.
mullokintyre said:
Your nothing better than a troll, I am not going to waste my time with responding to you.
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Deal with the topic and stop playing the man, as you have done in most of your replies to me.
The Indiana chart is indicative of the model outcomes that would be derived from running Burnett simulations. When real world evidence proves a case then your idea of hindcasting is redundant.
 
moXJO said:
Nsw is boring enough without moving back into the stone age that is WA. I'll take my risks with the 'outbreak state'.
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Like we said on the forum a long time ago people have choices, eventually everyone will get the virus that IMO is a given.
Whether you want to just get the virus naturally and develop immunity, or prefer to take the vaccination before contracting the virus, is a personal choice IMO.
People should be allowed to do that and accept the risk, they pay taxes, they have access to medicare, if required.
Why do people make such a big issue of it, at the end of the day it will be self resolving, those who want the vaccine will have it those who don't wont.
What I find difficult to deal with, is people trying to bully other people into submission, they have a right to their beliefs and their risks, the same as the ones who are having the vaccine.
As has been proven supply of vaccine isn't the issue, hesitancy is the issue, who caused the hesitancy? Well I can't say, because I'm apparently obsessed.
 
sptrawler said:
What I find difficult to deal with, is people trying to bully other people into submission, they have a right to their beliefs and their risks, the same as the ones who are having the vaccine.
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And yet at the same time, the Gold Coast family that "secretly" drove to Melbourne and back then refused to be tested could not be coerced into getting tested. I bet those kids who 'self reported" when they told their friends at school where they had been are gunna get a fair hiding once the parents get them back home away from the spotlight.
The various govts happy to come down on protesters though.
The balance just ain't there.
Mick
 
Pfizer looking to make a few more squillions.
Pfizer Daily Oral Trials
Pfizer Inc. (NYSE:pFE) today shared that the first participant has been dosed in a pivotal Phase 2/3 clinical trial to evaluate the safety and efficacy of PF-07321332 – an investigational orally administered protease inhibitor antiviral therapy designed specifically to combat COVID-19 – in non-hospitalized, symptomatic adult participants who have a confirmed diagnosis of SARSCoV-2 infection and are not at increased risk of progressing to severe illness, which may lead to hospitalization or death. The randomized, double-blind trial will enroll approximately 1,140 participants, who will receive PF07321332/ritonavir or placebo orally every 12 hours for five days. Protease inhibitors, like PF-07321332, are designed to block the activity of the main protease enzyme that the coronavirus needs to replicate. Co-administration with a low dose of ritonavir is expected to help slow the metabolism, or breakdown, of PF-07321332 in order for it to remain in the body for longer periods of time at higher concentrations, thereby working continuously to help combat the virus. Ritonavir has previously been used in combination with other antivirals to similarly inhibit metabolism.
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Given the infection rate in US, they should not have any difficulty in getting volunteers to participate in the trial.
Mick
 
Interesting watching the mountaintop finish, at the La Vuelta cycle race in Spain, last night.
Heaps of spectators and none wearing masks, the only people wearing masks, were the officials and the police, none of the general public were.
 
Victoria is seeing new COVID cases rise exponentially. The geni is well and truly out.:(
Monday 73, Tuesday 119, Wednesday 176, Thursday 208. And most of the cases are now coming from people in the community not in quarantine.

As of last night, there were 61 COVID-19 patients in Victorian hospitals, including 20 in intensive care, with 13 of those people on ventilators.

www.abc.net.au

Unvaccinated Victorians could be locked out of events, Andrews flags

The Premier says planning is well underway to trial outdoor events and venues for vaccinated people only, as Victoria's cases continue to climb.
www.abc.net.au www.abc.net.au
 
NSW is seeing vaccine hesitance, overtaken by a rush to get vaccinated, amazing how much of a motivator fear is. As soon as the Delta variant hits W.A I'm sure there will be a rush, I know one of my daughters is booking in this week, due to all the NSW, Vic news coverage.

NoCookies | The Australian

www.theaustralian.com.au www.theaustralian.com.au
From the article:
NSW has recorded another 1431 new Covid-19 cases and 12 deaths, with expert modelling predicting the worst is yet to come.
But there were some signs of hope with Premier Gladys Berejiklian revealing at least 120,000 more people got vaccinated in the last 24 hours.

“In the past week more than 827,000 people in NSW have come forward to get vaccinated,” the Premier said.
 
moXJO said:
Nsw is boring enough without moving back into the stone age that is WA. I'll take my risks with the 'outbreak state'.
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Living in caves over here is really good fun... we can visit each others cave any time we like.

Mean while we keep the mining / oil and gas going (COVID free, one case and its over) paying for the mess on the eastern sea board.

AS SP alluded to its going to get messy when COVID gets going here with the eastern states taking all the vaccines.
 
mullokintyre said:
Someone at the Age must have been adversely affected by the lockdown.
Pity it took them so long.
Mick
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johnmenadue.com

The Age demeans itself as well as the Victorian public health team - Pearls and Irritations

The most disturbing aspect of The Age’s disappointing editorial yesterday is its undermining of the state’s public health messaging and compliance efforts. Yesterday The Age published a provocative editorial, “Victoria cannot go on like this”, which many saw as undermining the Victorian...
johnmenadue.com johnmenadue.com
 
An example of how other countries see the COVID response here in the Union of Soviet Socialist States of Australia:

”Australia has turned into a draconian police state... some of the insane things happening there.

1. They are building quarantine camps.

2. They deployed the army to patrol the streets to lock people inside their homes.

3. Unarmed civilians shot with rubber bullets for protesting the government.

4. Children tear gassed by police for being in the protests.

5. Citizens to be forced to download an app with facial recognition and location tracking. Police will require you to send photos of yourself randomly to prove your whereabouts.

If you don't reply within 15 minutes, police will knock on your door.

6. A new surveillance law allows police to DELETE and modify files on your device and take over social media accounts without a judges warrant.

7. Mothers were fined $1000 for talking with each other outdoors.

8. A man was jailed for 8 months for organizing a protest against the government. He was arrested and sentenced in only 24 hours.

9. Police have emergency powers to:

- Break into any land, building or vehicle with any force necessary

- Order people undergo medical exams, tests or treatments.

- Prohibit people's movement.

- Put people in quarantine.

- Force people to give info.

10. Police patrolling childrens playgrounds to make sure kids aren't playing.

11. Don't like any of this? Citizens aren't even allowed to leave the country.

Please share this. People need to know what's happening.

If it can happen there, it can happen here too."

From @PeterSweden7
 
wayneL said:
An example of how other countries see the COVID response here in the Union of Soviet Socialist States of Australia:

”Australia has turned into a draconian police state... some of the insane things happening there.

1. They are building quarantine camps.

2. They deployed the army to patrol the streets to lock people inside their homes.

3. Unarmed civilians shot with rubber bullets for protesting the government.

4. Children tear gassed by police for being in the protests.

5. Citizens to be forced to download an app with facial recognition and location tracking. Police will require you to send photos of yourself randomly to prove your whereabouts.

If you don't reply within 15 minutes, police will knock on your door.

6. A new surveillance law allows police to DELETE and modify files on your device and take over social media accounts without a judges warrant.

7. Mothers were fined $1000 for talking with each other outdoors.

8. A man was jailed for 8 months for organizing a protest against the government. He was arrested and sentenced in only 24 hours.

9. Police have emergency powers to:

- Break into any land, building or vehicle with any force necessary

- Order people undergo medical exams, tests or treatments.

- Prohibit people's movement.

- Put people in quarantine.

- Force people to give info.

10. Police patrolling childrens playgrounds to make sure kids aren't playing.

11. Don't like any of this? Citizens aren't even allowed to leave the country.

Please share this. People need to know what's happening.

If it can happen there, it can happen here too."

From @PeterSweden7
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Culleton now this bloke

www.thelondoneconomic.com

Swedish journalist lambasted for posting bizarre defence of 'white men'

The London Economic - Peter Imanuelsen said white privilege is a racist myth and male privilege is a sexist myth. - Media
www.thelondoneconomic.com www.thelondoneconomic.com
 
What's your point Humid? Do you have actually any *intelligent counterpoints to anything he has said?
 
Humid said:
johnmenadue.com

The Age demeans itself as well as the Victorian public health team - Pearls and Irritations

The most disturbing aspect of The Age’s disappointing editorial yesterday is its undermining of the state’s public health messaging and compliance efforts. Yesterday The Age published a provocative editorial, “Victoria cannot go on like this”, which many saw as undermining the Victorian...
johnmenadue.com johnmenadue.com
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This bit

"The Age criticises the Victorian government for a lack of information, however by comparison with the NSW premier, Victoria is the gold standard. For example, NSW stopped providing details of its daily Covid numbers weeks ago. The NSW premier peremptorily ends her news conferences when she feels like it, even in mid-question and with journalists wanting more. Victorians have become accustomed to watching with some astonishment as Daniel Andrews has responded to every question journalists want to ask, at times for more than two hours."
 
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