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Will the "Corona Virus" turn into a worldwide epidemic or fizzle out?

  • Yes

    Votes: 37 49.3%

  • No

    Votes: 9 12.0%

  • Bigger than SARS, but not worldwide epidemic (Black Death/bubonic plague)

    Votes: 25 33.3%

  • Undecided

    Votes: 4 5.3%
  • Total voters
    75
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basilio said:
Nothing like cheery picking and diversion to support an insupportable argument is there ?

I post about the poisonous insanity of (some ?) antivaxxers accusing a young COVID sick girl of being "a stooge, a liar and a paid actress."
Her take home home message is "Please get vaccinated because this virus is real and dangerous".

The response ? Oh I'm just thinking about exactly when I might consider getting vaccinated after all the proper processes are completed that rule out ........ WTF !o_O

And then the coup de grace. Australia by some luck and a rigorous approach to quarantine/lockdown has so far not suffered the overwhelming death rates of scores of other countries. And this piece of cherry picking mischief is used to show what ? That "The Flu is worse than Covid. Don't worry just get out there "you'll be right". The idea of seeing what is happening elsewhere and learning from their disasters ? Nah not us. :speechless:

There is no perfect answer. We deal with the best information and the best resources we have at the time. Right now we know that COVID is dangerous and becoming more dangerous as it mutates and spreads.

We also know that the vaccines we have will offer protection and on all the evidence to date substantially reduce the effects of an infection.
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Well, there are certainly some d¹ckheads for sure, bas.

But you are building a certain narrative and it needs to be balanced out by pointing out there is similar acrimony towards the hesitant.

D1ckheads will be d1ckheads, there are nutters at both ends of the spectrum.

my position as I have stated numerous times has never been anti-vax but rather I just would like to wait till there is more longer-term data "for my safety".

For this my inbox is full of people wishing me dead and actual death threats (not credible cos they don't have my details, but still)... among other vile insults.
 
For those who are interested, on 28 August 2021, the ABS has release provisional mortality data for the period Jan 2020 to May 2021

www.abs.gov.au

Provisional Mortality Statistics, Jan - Apr 2024

Provisional deaths data for measuring changes in patterns of mortality
www.abs.gov.au www.abs.gov.au

The graph below provides a visual for those who may have issues with comprehension or prefer to obtain information from unreliable sources.

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One way or the other people end up with t- cells. So long as people know the risks involved, it should be up to them if they want to be vaccinated and at what stage.

I think we will reach 70% nsw easily. And we are the more 'right' leaning state.
 
wayneL said:


But being told to die because you want to wait a bit before possibly getting a Vax is okay, right @basilio?
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Comments like these are symptomatic of the irrational thoughts of those who can't work out how serious the threat of covid is in our communities.

Probably worth checking out Tyler Bradleys Twitter page. Explains a lot.
 
Belli said:
For those who are interested, on 28 August 2021, the ABS has release provisional mortality data for the period Jan 2020 to May 2021

www.abs.gov.au

Provisional Mortality Statistics, Jan - Apr 2024

Provisional deaths data for measuring changes in patterns of mortality
www.abs.gov.au www.abs.gov.au

The graph below provides a visual for those who may have issues with comprehension or prefer to obtain information from unreliable sources.

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That chart is blown out from Melbourne deaths. Delta is not as high mortality at this stage.
 
moXJO said:
One way or the other people end up with t- cells. So long as people know the risks involved, it should be up to them if they want to be vaccinated and at what stage.

I think we will reach 70% nsw easily. And we are the more 'right' leaning state.
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70% of what?
 
Belli said:
For those who are interested, on 28 August 2021, the ABS has release provisional mortality data for the period Jan 2020 to May 2021

www.abs.gov.au

Provisional Mortality Statistics, Jan - Apr 2024

Provisional deaths data for measuring changes in patterns of mortality
www.abs.gov.au www.abs.gov.au

The graph below provides a visual for those who may have issues with comprehension or prefer to obtain information from unreliable sources.

View attachment 129706
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What your chart does not show is that the 2020-21 increase over the 2015-19 range is due to much higher numbers of deaths due to cancer, diabetes, and dementia. Moreover, the trend is for diabetes and dementia to increase disproportionately into the future.
It is impossible to draw any inferences that lockdowns due to covid infections have contributed to numbers of deaths.
 
Humid said:
Prety much sums up the attitude that led to long term lockdown
What happened to the gold standard tracers you were chest beating about?
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The rest of you states will be in and out of lockdowns for years with a zero strategy. Through not giving a sht we will have international travel by November.

We are the Gold Standard in not giving a sht.
 
moXJO said:
The rest of you states will be in and out of lockdowns for years with a zero strategy. Through not giving a sht we will have international travel by November.

We are the Gold Standard in not giving a sht.
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So will you when the hospitals are over run
The 70% was worked on low case numbers and tracing....cant believe you of all people are believing the news
 
Humid said:
So will you when the hospitals are over run
The 70% was worked on low case numbers and tracing....cant believe you of all people are believing the news
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I can't believe you of all people think I'm not just sht posting.

Are you alright?
Never seen you take it seriously before:laugh:
 
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