Coronavirus (COVID-19/SARS-CoV-2) outbreak discussion

[SirRumpole]

Link between spread of covid and humidity.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-08-25/weather-covid-19-coronavirus-and-humidity/12587402

 

[grah33]

i need to check but i think a few 100 deaths a day is quite small compared to other death rates that occur normally in society.

 

[grah33]

I don't know about young people and the psychological affect this is having on them, but I do know my mother and mother in law have both taken a huge step for the worse, since this virus and all the bad news surrounding it has commenced.

yes, and one of my relations as well, seems traumatized. and things haven't even begun yet. the potential for destruction has been put on hold until the payments stop.

 

[grah33]

anyone know why people outside are exercising in masks? I'm not getting this.

 

[grah33]

Here is another one for you.

Is Sweden's 2020 mortality rate similar to previous years?

Did Anders Tegnell get it right? By the looks of it, he might have

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u might like to also compare with the US data. death rate 4 times higher than their usual numbers ?

 

[satanoperca]

Both have had multiple falls and I think a lot is to do with not going outside and getting exercise, before the virus they both visited neighbours and socialised.
Since the virus, they hardly go out at all and only if it is absolutely essential, now they are both in hospital, with all likely hood of them ending up in permanent care.
It may be coincidence, but the muscle wastage is obvious and the pre occupation with talking about the virus is mentally draining on them.
No amount of reassurance, stops them thinking the worst, I've told them to not watch the news but old people get fixated.

Thanks for providing some insight into how the various rules and actions of our govnuts are effecting the people who they are trying to protect.

 

[macca]

It has been Sweden's summer, they were allowed out and they go crazy for the sunshine because they get so little of it at other times.

They have very fair skin so a little bit of sunshine makes a large difference to their Vitamin D rates

Sitting in the sun having a coffee is a healthy thing to do, both physically and mentally

 

[IFocus]

It has been Sweden's summer, they were allowed out and they go crazy for the sunshine because they get so little of it at other times.

They have very fair skin so a little bit of sunshine makes a large difference to their Vitamin D rates

Sitting in the sun having a coffee is a healthy thing to do, both physically and mentally

You maybe right Macca but also the fact the Swedes have followed instructions on gathering restrictions, social distancing and other measures to limit the spread of the virus.

Virus spread = people+contact+movement, its not rocket science but not understood by most its seems.

 

[macca]

You maybe right Macca but also the fact the Swedes have followed instructions on gathering restrictions, social distancing and other measures to limit the spread of the virus.

Virus spread = people+contact+movement, its not rocket science but not understood by most its seems.

From the very start of the outbreak I have been very disappointed we did not follow the actions of the Asian countries who have been through all this before.

When the initial panic was on I believe that people would have been far more likely to wear masks in public, observe social distancing and generally be a bit more careful.

By doing that we could have all stayed at work and lived an almost normal life, instead we had our head medical people saying "she'll be right" just stay apart and all go home and we will give you money.

"Party time" instead of "Oh Shyte" time...no wonder people "just don't get it"

 

[bellenuit]

FDA chief apologizes for overstating plasma effect on virus

https://apnews.com/a7f0e8aac34a860ad502912564681b7c

Hahn had echoed Trump in saying that 35 more people out of 100 would survive the coronavirus if they were treated with the plasma. That claim vastly overstated preliminary findings of Mayo Clinic observation.

The 35% figure drew condemnation from other scientists and some former FDA officials, who called on Hahn to correct the record.

“I have been criticized for remarks I made Sunday night about the benefits of convalescent plasma. The criticism is entirely justified. What I should have said better is that the data show a relative risk reduction not an absolute risk reduction,” Hahn tweeted.

 

[DB008]

u might like to also compare with the US data. death rate 4 times higher than their usual numbers ?

You maybe right Macca but also the fact the Swedes have followed instructions on gathering restrictions, social distancing and other measures to limit the spread of the virus.

Virus spread = people+contact+movement, its not rocket science but not understood by most its seems.

I spoke to a former work colleague yesterday, who lives in Sweden. It's basically business as usual. They are already at the end of the tunnel, Covid is pretty much over, over there. We are still trying to find the light at the end of the tunnel (in state lockdown and whatnot), let alone see it.

 

[qldfrog]

Link between spread of covid and humidity.

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-08-25/weather-covid-19-coronavirus-and-humidity/12587402

There is also one well known link between cold and higher humidity level aka slaughterhouse, from memory from a research paper at least 3 months old, worse is around 7 degree with 64pc moisture
No so much size of droplets as per this article but preservation of live virus outside body, so contact contamination increase
To bring a bit of no need of a phd for this
Dry weather lead to dry mouth and nose which reduces natural body filtration and response system.
Our dust virus and bacteria traps in nose mucus and along the throat fail...

 

[qldfrog]

I have noted a ..welcome..greater emphasis on treatments lately in the news which can be read, especially considering my views..as a shift of focus and or admission of vaccine hopes being squashed.
When you know death rate was decrease significantly when turning people on their bellies, and avoiding intubation as much as possible, there is most probably better use of money than a vaccine..
At the same time: news are highlighting the fact someone got the virus twice..good luck vaccine then...internet best availability of knowledge ever in mankind yet dummest population, ever

 

[satanoperca]

I spoke to a former work colleague yesterday, who lives in Sweden. It's basically business as usual. They are already at the end of the tunnel, Covid is pretty much over, over there. We are still trying to find the light at the end of the tunnel (in state lockdown and whatnot), let alone see it.

Please DB008, stop spreading fake news that could be real news, that is not how we do things today in a Covid world.

Cannot have the sheepie hearing that just maybe the govnuts got it very, very wrong.

 

[Knobby22]

Please DB008, stop spreading fake news that could be real news, that is not how we do things today in a Covid world.

Cannot have the sheepie hearing that just maybe the govnuts got it very, very wrong.

It would be over here if the Vic government hadn't stuffed up.

 

[basilio]

Catholic Church Opposes Vaccine, Suggests Moving COVID To Another Parish Instead

The Australian Catholic Church says it will not support a potential vaccine for the coronavirus, arguing that a more effective method would be moving the virus to another location and pretending nothing had happened.

“We’ve found it’s the most effective way of dealing with unwanted problems,” a spokesperson for the Church said.

“Everyone always wants to go for elimination, but we’ve always preferred suppression”.

He said it saved a lot of unnecessary time and effort. “Just relocate it for someone else to deal with. Yes, the virus will continue to infect others in the new location, but that’s no longer our problem is it?

The Church said it was opposed to a vaccine due to fears it may use foetal tissue. It is the first time the Church has shown concern for children.
https://www.theshovel.com.au/2020/0...gn=kim_jong_un_dies_again&utm_term=2020-08-25

 

[wayneL]

 

[grah33]

Catholic Church Opposes Vaccine, Suggests Moving COVID To Another Parish Instead

The Australian Catholic Church says it will not support a potential vaccine for the coronavirus, arguing that a more effective method would be moving the virus to another location and pretending nothing had happened.

“We’ve found it’s the most effective way of dealing with unwanted problems,” a spokesperson for the Church said.

“Everyone always wants to go for elimination, but we’ve always preferred suppression”.

He said it saved a lot of unnecessary time and effort. “Just relocate it for someone else to deal with. Yes, the virus will continue to infect others in the new location, but that’s no longer our problem is it?

The Church said it was opposed to a vaccine due to fears it may use foetal tissue. It is the first time the Church has shown concern for children.
https://www.theshovel.com.au/2020/0...gn=kim_jong_un_dies_again&utm_term=2020-08-25

People are free - maybe not soon - to follow their conscience /belief.

 

[grah33]

Please DB008, stop spreading fake news that could be real news, that is not how we do things today in a Covid world.

Cannot have the sheepie hearing that just maybe the govnuts got it very, very wrong.

which fake news is he spreading?

 

[DB008]

University of Queensland scientists release coronavirus vaccine pre-clinical trial data, say results show 'good level of protection'​

New trial results released by the team behind one of Australian's leading coronavirus vaccine candidates show it is safe and "likely to provide protection" against COVID-19.​

Key points:​

Hamsters treated with the UQ vaccine had their immune responses triggered​

UQ has a deal with Australian vaccine maker CSL to manufacture the vaccine if it wins approval​

The pre-clinical trial results are now being shared with other scientists around the world​

More on link below...

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-08-26/uq-covid-19-vaccine-candidate-safe-and-working-on-hamsters/12594726

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