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That says it all I'm afraid. Kids bought up with guns is a bad way to start a life.
It's not quite as bad as holding a severed head, but it's heading in that direction.
I didn't realise the end where the Uzi is pointing at the bloke's head is where he gets his entry visa to gun heaven.
China and India have larger populations than Planet America but I cannot recall news related to multiple killings by a civilian on civilians. It may happen but isn't reported, I don't know. The occurrence of civilian multiple killing civilians is high in America. Our own mentally ill civilian mass shooting brought about the most effective political decision ever made in my opinion. To hand in your guns or have good reason to be in possession of one and strictly licensed to do so. Thank you John Howard for that wisdom.
The old adage: guns don't kill people, people kill people. That's the world we live in and no amount of legislation will change that.
It is that exact adage that the NRA and pro-gun lobby over here in 'Merica use. Why should you regulate guns when it's people that kill, not the guns...
It's amazing how many supposedly sensible people here think that more guns make them safer. In fact on the local news today i saw that regular police officers in certain suburbs are now allowed to carry AR-15's as that will make the suburb 'safer'. How the hell is an AR-15 going to make an area safer than a normal hand-gun??
but I think he made a gutsy and correct move by toughening up on gun ownership.
Criminal charges will not be laid after a nine-year-old girl accidentally killed her instructor with an Uzi in Arizona, law enforcement officials said.
Charles Vacca, 39, was shot in the head when the girl lost control of the Uzi submachine gun she was learning to use at the Last Stop shooting range in White Hills, near the Nevada border, on Monday.
The girl, whom police did not identify, was at the outdoor range with her parents while visiting Nevada from New Jersey.
The incident has sparked debate over shooting ranges offering machine guns to casual visitors and the wisdom of giving children access to high-powered firearms.
The Mohave County Sheriff's Office said in a statement that it was "being viewed as an industrial accident", but state occupational health and safety officials are conducting their own probe of the incident, which was captured on video.
A clip released by the sheriff's office shows Mr Vacca giving a girl in pink shorts and a braided ponytail hands-on instruction as she aims the Uzi at a target.
Mr Vacca is heard encouraging the girl and asking her to fire the gun.
Then he tells her, "All right, full auto" and the weapon unleashes multiple rounds as the video cuts off.
It was apparently then that Mr Vacca was shot in the head when the girl lost control.
Authorities have not said how many times Mr Vacca was hit, but NBC News reported he was killed by a single bullet to the head.
A spokeswoman for the Arizona Division of Occupational Safety and Health confirmed that the agency was investigating the incident, but said state law prevented her from disclosing details.
'Where can I shoot a machine gun?'
The Last Stop, a tourist hub that also includes a restaurant, bar, caravan park and general store, is decorated with paintings of firearms, faux bullet holes and crosshairs and a mural depicting a gun-toting Sylvester Stallone in the film Rambo.
An employee at the scene said the range had resumed operations but gave no further comment, and gunfire could be heard coming from inside.
The Arizona Republic had earlier reported the range was closed following the incident. Owners of the gun range could not be reached for comment.
One of biggest questions I got from all over the world is 'where can I shoot a machine gun'?
Former bus driver Scott Edwards
Arizona Last Stop has a "Burgers and Bullets" program that offers customers lunch with a trip to the range, where they can choose from among more than 20 automatic weapons to shoot, according to its website.
The website shows the packages available for the shooting range, which is described as having a "unique Desert Storm atmosphere," and says each group gets a "certified ex-military firearms instructor". It lists the minimum age as eight.
Scott Edwards, a former Las Vegas bus driver visiting the Last Stop on Thursday, said such gun ranges were popular with tourists visiting from out of state.
"One of biggest questions I got from all over the world is 'where can I shoot a machine gun'?" Mr Edwards said.
Bob Irwin, who owns the Gun Store in Las Vegas, which he said was the oldest range offering machine guns in the city, said his facility had no age restrictions, instead using strength and weight as a metric.
Mr Irwin said Gun Store instructors were trained to hold the firearm for the child, who just pulled the trigger.
"There's no way a child that small is going to handle the vibration and motion of that gun," Mr Irwin said.
Some Uzi models are capable of firing up to 1,700 rounds per minute, or almost 30 rounds per second, according to the manufacturer's website.
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2014-08-...hooting-gun-range-uzi-9-year-old-girl/5705158
It is that exact adage that the NRA and pro-gun lobby over here in 'Merica use. Why should you regulate guns when it's people that kill, not the guns...
It's amazing how many supposedly sensible people here think that more guns make them safer. In fact on the local news today i saw that regular police officers in certain suburbs are now allowed to carry AR-15's as that will make the suburb 'safer'. How the hell is an AR-15 going to make an area safer than a normal hand-gun??
Australia
AR-15 rifles, like all semi-automatic rifles, are subject to strong restrictions of ownership in all states and territories in Australia. The only means of legally owning an AR-15-type rifle in Australia today beyond law enforcement is to have a Category D Firearms License (e.g. a professional animal culler), to have a Firearms Collector's License and the firearm deactivated (with the barrel plugged up and the action welded shut), or converted to blank fire if one is a member of a military re-enactment organization.
Restrictions on semi-automatic rifles were introduced in 1996 in response to the Port Arthur massacre – one of the firearms used was an AR-15. Previously, AR-15 rifles were legal to own in Queensland and Tasmania.
As a consequence to stricter legal requirements to semi-automatic firearms; AR-15 type rifles became too expensive for television and film production with the requirement to destroy or export imported semi-automatic rifles after use. Warwick Firearms & Militaria[22] , a Melbourne prop maker, self-manufactures blank firing AR-15-type, WFM4 rifles locally with approximately three dozen having been sold.
Living in a regional area on a property I own a gun for vermin eradication reasons. I have to say that I feel safer with it considering the local police are usually based 30km away and would take a while to get here if there was any trouble. Not that there ever has been.
I'm not normally a fan of John Howard, but I think he made a gutsy and correct move by toughening up on gun ownership.
To be honest i think that was probably the last big show of political leadership and change for the good of the country that Australia has seen.
I grew up in the country too and have shot my share of guns, like you, i just fail to see a reason why the 'average' person should be able to own a gun.
A well regulated militia being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed.
A well regulated militia being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed.
The insanity goes on...
No criminal charges after 9yo girl fatally shoots Arizona gun instructor with Uzi
I take it that the 'insanity' you refer to goes to no one being charged here. Who do you think should be charged and why? Seems like a dreadful accident to me.The insanity goes on...
No criminal charges after 9yo girl fatally shoots Arizona gun instructor with Uzi
Oh that stems from the early years of evolution. If the nut doesn't crack, hit it harder.How the hell is an AR-15 going to make an area safer than a normal hand-gun??
I take it that the 'insanity' you refer to goes to no one being charged here. Who do you think should be charged and why? Seems like a dreadful accident to me.
That said, I abhor the American gun culture which allows this situation to occur in the first place.
I grew up in the country too and have shot my share of guns, like you, i just fail to see a reason why the 'average' person should be able to own a gun.
The average person shouldn't have a drivers licence either, but hey, they passed all the same tests to get their drivers licence, just like the 'average' person passed to get their gun licence. I'm speaking Australia here by the way.
I was talking to someone the other day who had a run in (literally) with a driver who possessed a foreign driving licence. This person (the owner of the foreign licence) was incapable to drive on our roads and in all probability obtained their licence by bribery.
So if we continue to recognise foreign driving licences, should we recognise foreign gun licences ? The best choice is to recognise neither, but I suspect that would upset foreign countries so we give in in the name of political correctness.
By memory you may need to do a minor test to in order to convert from a foreign licence to domestic (although not to the extent an 18-year old does). I'd be skeptical to say it's bribery.
In Australia, laws and driving regulations differ from state to state. Some states require you to carry an International Licence with your current foreign licence. Other states request you carry your current foreign driver's licence together with a formal translation of your licence into English.
In most Australian states and territories (the exception is the Northern Territory), you are able to drive on a overseas licence as long as it is current. You can only drive vehicles which your overseas licence authorises you to drive and you must drive according to any conditions on your overseas licence.
http://australia.gov.au/content/driving-with-an-overseas-licence
I'm unsure on your view regarding foreign gun licences, as there is no such thing - not in Australia anyway.
That says it all I'm afraid. Kids bought up with guns is a bad way to start a life.
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