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Very funny toward the end about 3.40
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Colorado, gun control and the 2nd Amendment
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Gunman and 12 Victims Killed in Shooting at D.C. Navy Yard
http://www.nytimes.com/2013/09/17/us/shooting-reported-at-washington-navy-yard.html?ref=us
How can we tolerate another mass shooting?
http://www.smh.com.au/comment/how-can-we-tolerate-another-mass-shooting-20130917-2twr7.html
http://www.nytimes.com/2013/09/17/us/shooting-reported-at-washington-navy-yard.html?ref=us
How can we tolerate another mass shooting?
http://www.smh.com.au/comment/how-can-we-tolerate-another-mass-shooting-20130917-2twr7.html
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USA gun mentality is insane................that's all there is to it.
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Up to 13 people shot at a Chicago basketball court including three-year-old boy
http://www.news.com.au/breaking-news/world/up-to-13-people-shot-at-a-chicago-basketball-court-including-threeyearold-boy/story-e6frfkui-1226723648692#ixzz2fSdzfdpF
http://www.news.com.au/breaking-news/world/up-to-13-people-shot-at-a-chicago-basketball-court-including-threeyearold-boy/story-e6frfkui-1226723648692#ixzz2fSdzfdpF
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When disaster hits, it's best to adopt God's perspective and say "I'm not too fussed about death, destruction and mayhem".
Think about it before you shoot me down.
Think about it before you shoot me down.
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Mass shooting at Fort Hood: Four dead and fourteen injured by gunman who then turned gun on himself at military base where 13 were shot dead by radical Muslim officer in 2009
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2595587/BREAKING-NEWS-Active-shooter-confirmed-Ford-Hood-military-base.html#ixzz2xmMGbCrP
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2595587/BREAKING-NEWS-Active-shooter-confirmed-Ford-Hood-military-base.html#ixzz2xmMGbCrP
So I've gone through the entire thread, wasted an hour and learnt that a very few here are actually mature enough to go into discussion with an open-mind, perhaps willing to learn something.
I shoot, I hunt, so be it. I also very shortly will be working in finance, in the city believe it or not. My father never shot (besides an air rifle when he was a kid). Majority of my shooting was self-educated and with a friend. I seem to be doing ok at the age of 21, 3rd year uni, 2 businesses and a work experience opportunity looking promising. Because I have a firearms licence does it mean I'm a psychopath? - I went through all the hoops with the licensing, the safety course, the storage requirements, the fee's etc. Which I definitely aren't complaining about, as its restricted the amount of guns to idiots in society. By the way, hand guns have even further hoops to jump through such as mandatory competition/club shooting, amongst others.
It however hasn't restricted diddly-squat to criminals because they never jumped through those hoops. They instead went to their firearm dealing friend (which potentially could be next door to you) and bought a hand gun. No questions asked.
Whilst having my own views on firearms, I still don't believe the US needs full-automatic rifles. In some case's they don't need semi-automatic rifles either. However they have proved very effective on eradicating pest species such as; Coyotes, feral dogs, prairie dogs, rabbits etc. - Due to their quick capabilities of firing (with each pull of the trigger) as usually the first come running into a predator call. Whilst the later two will all be dispersed and quick shooting would be effective to eradicate them successfully.
The US does need a strict licensing system such as Australia's. Hell it would even mean some more money for their stupid government. Although there are so many guns in homes that registering them all, being licensed etc is near impossible. Such as the guns that were never handed back to John Howard that people still keep up in the back of their wardrobe. It would be naive to think every single gun got handed back and didn't end up in the wrong, criminal prone hands.
My responses to below points of interest are below. Hopefully any replies to my posts can be seen with an open-mind from the responder. Although my hopes for that diminish by each post.
They also have semi-auto rifles and silencers, much like the US. However I can only assume stringent licensing goes into this.
Is Mcdonalds to blame because fat people are too lazy to get off the couch and exercise? Therefore have diabetes and obesity.
Just ask Leanne Walters dad that; and see how that 'crims just kill each other anyway' goes down with him. Or did you forget about that one?
There you go again!
What if that city slicker wants to hunt on his weekends? Isn't he allowed too?
You can read above too.
Considering there are approximately 660+,000 plus surgeons in the US. Additionally, estimates of between 44 - 150 plus million gun owners in the US; chances are those same surgeons also own a gun. Along with the lawyers, emergency services, etc. - You may as well throw priests and politicians in there too.
But it's just so much easier going to Woolies or Coles and picking meat up off the shelf isn't it? Whilst being naive to the fact. Then going on to complain about slaughter houses and abattoirs. Unfortunately these hypocrites will exist until the human race disappears...which will of course be due to guns that everyone dies.
Have you been on a trip like this yourself? Perhaps you should find some new friends to go camping with. I know I sure as hell don't get 'loaded on booze' before I go for a shoot, and I'm only the immature age of 21. I also never bring my firearms out in front of friends whilst camping and frankly won't ever go shooting or hunting with anyone who doesn't own a firearm or is a licensed firearm owner themselves. Because it's these same people who get overly excited when seeing a gun and will later be stupid around them - always asking; 'can I touch it' (whilst swinging the barrel end around pointing it in your face). These same people have never been taught basic firearm safety either. Which by the way includes but not limited to; don't ever touch firearms if you're under the influence of drugs and/or alcohol.
So does gun related incidents such as armed robberies, suicides and homicides come back to the country and it's people or the fact of guns themselves?
He is the best gun salesmen the USA has ever seen! Every time he opens his mouth the gun shops shelves clear out, and the manufacturers warehouses empty. Hopefully its as good as his Obamacare and presidency in general.
Probably because you go into it with such a close-minded attitude, as perfectly demonstrated by each and every single one of your responses on this thread.
More than likely there is, mass stabbings anyway. However mass stabbings don't make the news headlines like the big, bad black guns do. You could most certainly assume every 'gang-banger' in LA has a knife of some form (probably a gun too, obtained illegally probably by doing illegal activities like dealing drugs too) - The logic behind this is criminals do not, and will not ever care about the law. Period!
No, the nut behind the but is responsible. Is Ford responsible for letting a p-plater drive at 120km/h and smash into a tree killing all his friends (which is all too common in Australia - weekly occurrence)? This is the exact same logic you're applying. Nothing more, nothing less.
Unfortunately it's this same world that will soon see furniture produced with no sharp corners and steak knives outlawed. You will waste valuable time and money protecting the stupid from harm.
This! +1
Mustn't be able to afford a barracks, nor some decent attire fit for a 'dangerous part of the country'. Basic firearm safety will always teach you to point your gun down and away from others. Nor do I think that a bunch of reservist soldiers in Isarael would be enjoying a cold one or two with a gun slinged over their back fresh off the training course.
I shoot, I hunt, so be it. I also very shortly will be working in finance, in the city believe it or not. My father never shot (besides an air rifle when he was a kid). Majority of my shooting was self-educated and with a friend. I seem to be doing ok at the age of 21, 3rd year uni, 2 businesses and a work experience opportunity looking promising. Because I have a firearms licence does it mean I'm a psychopath? - I went through all the hoops with the licensing, the safety course, the storage requirements, the fee's etc. Which I definitely aren't complaining about, as its restricted the amount of guns to idiots in society. By the way, hand guns have even further hoops to jump through such as mandatory competition/club shooting, amongst others.
It however hasn't restricted diddly-squat to criminals because they never jumped through those hoops. They instead went to their firearm dealing friend (which potentially could be next door to you) and bought a hand gun. No questions asked.
Whilst having my own views on firearms, I still don't believe the US needs full-automatic rifles. In some case's they don't need semi-automatic rifles either. However they have proved very effective on eradicating pest species such as; Coyotes, feral dogs, prairie dogs, rabbits etc. - Due to their quick capabilities of firing (with each pull of the trigger) as usually the first come running into a predator call. Whilst the later two will all be dispersed and quick shooting would be effective to eradicate them successfully.
The US does need a strict licensing system such as Australia's. Hell it would even mean some more money for their stupid government. Although there are so many guns in homes that registering them all, being licensed etc is near impossible. Such as the guns that were never handed back to John Howard that people still keep up in the back of their wardrobe. It would be naive to think every single gun got handed back and didn't end up in the wrong, criminal prone hands.
My responses to below points of interest are below. Hopefully any replies to my posts can be seen with an open-mind from the responder. Although my hopes for that diminish by each post.
They also have semi-auto rifles and silencers, much like the US. However I can only assume stringent licensing goes into this.
Is Mcdonalds to blame because fat people are too lazy to get off the couch and exercise? Therefore have diabetes and obesity.
Just ask Leanne Walters dad that; and see how that 'crims just kill each other anyway' goes down with him. Or did you forget about that one?
There you go again!
What if that city slicker wants to hunt on his weekends? Isn't he allowed too?
You can read above too.Considering there are approximately 660+,000 plus surgeons in the US. Additionally, estimates of between 44 - 150 plus million gun owners in the US; chances are those same surgeons also own a gun. Along with the lawyers, emergency services, etc. - You may as well throw priests and politicians in there too.
But it's just so much easier going to Woolies or Coles and picking meat up off the shelf isn't it? Whilst being naive to the fact. Then going on to complain about slaughter houses and abattoirs. Unfortunately these hypocrites will exist until the human race disappears...which will of course be due to guns that everyone dies.
Have you been on a trip like this yourself? Perhaps you should find some new friends to go camping with. I know I sure as hell don't get 'loaded on booze' before I go for a shoot, and I'm only the immature age of 21. I also never bring my firearms out in front of friends whilst camping and frankly won't ever go shooting or hunting with anyone who doesn't own a firearm or is a licensed firearm owner themselves. Because it's these same people who get overly excited when seeing a gun and will later be stupid around them - always asking; 'can I touch it' (whilst swinging the barrel end around pointing it in your face). These same people have never been taught basic firearm safety either. Which by the way includes but not limited to; don't ever touch firearms if you're under the influence of drugs and/or alcohol.
You don't need to spend long in the US to notice that Americans are obsessed with "freedom", "liberty" and their own military. Get on a domestic flight, attend a baseball game or anything like that and you'll notice it pretty quickly. The sad part is, the sheer obsession with it all is itself an expression of fear. And inciting fear is precisely the objective of terrorists. When, as a tourist, you end up being security screened several times in the one day that reality really hits you.
So does gun related incidents such as armed robberies, suicides and homicides come back to the country and it's people or the fact of guns themselves?
He is the best gun salesmen the USA has ever seen! Every time he opens his mouth the gun shops shelves clear out, and the manufacturers warehouses empty. Hopefully its as good as his Obamacare and presidency in general.
Probably because you go into it with such a close-minded attitude, as perfectly demonstrated by each and every single one of your responses on this thread.
More than likely there is, mass stabbings anyway. However mass stabbings don't make the news headlines like the big, bad black guns do. You could most certainly assume every 'gang-banger' in LA has a knife of some form (probably a gun too, obtained illegally probably by doing illegal activities like dealing drugs too) - The logic behind this is criminals do not, and will not ever care about the law. Period!
No, the nut behind the but is responsible. Is Ford responsible for letting a p-plater drive at 120km/h and smash into a tree killing all his friends (which is all too common in Australia - weekly occurrence)? This is the exact same logic you're applying. Nothing more, nothing less.
Unfortunately it's this same world that will soon see furniture produced with no sharp corners and steak knives outlawed. You will waste valuable time and money protecting the stupid from harm.
This! +1
Mustn't be able to afford a barracks, nor some decent attire fit for a 'dangerous part of the country'. Basic firearm safety will always teach you to point your gun down and away from others. Nor do I think that a bunch of reservist soldiers in Isarael would be enjoying a cold one or two with a gun slinged over their back fresh off the training course.
Additionally feel free to read about the latest criminal importing semi-automatic pistols and rifles. Along with steroids, tasers and child exploitation material. - READ HERE.
Better give the second most anti-gun Senator Leland Yee his time in the spotlight too for being charged with firearms trafficking - read more
It's pretty hard to fight (and take serious) an anti-gun agenda when even politicians themselves are living double-lives.
Better give the second most anti-gun Senator Leland Yee his time in the spotlight too for being charged with firearms trafficking - read more
It's pretty hard to fight (and take serious) an anti-gun agenda when even politicians themselves are living double-lives.
And a little bit of something else to educate yourself in:
You can read about it here and the full report here
$38 billion a year to the US economy isn't too bad for a bunch of crazy wielding beings.
Of course it is developed by a shooting organisation but it still holds merit.
Does anyone want to read about how lots of hunters provide food for food banks, churches and those in need and don't just kill deer to get a woody? - Or am I boring you too much already? - Although this isn't practised in Australia due to strict food processing regulations.
You can read about it here and the full report here
$38 billion a year to the US economy isn't too bad for a bunch of crazy wielding beings.
Of course it is developed by a shooting organisation but it still holds merit.
Does anyone want to read about how lots of hunters provide food for food banks, churches and those in need and don't just kill deer to get a woody? - Or am I boring you too much already? - Although this isn't practised in Australia due to strict food processing regulations.
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Gun safety....hmmm
The US needs its guns to protect its citizens from the other citizens with guns. Give it up, gun control in the US is as good as it will ever get.
Other more civil countries like Australia and Canada have very reasonable gun laws that allow people to hunt. Cool, well done. I like to hunt birds when i get a chance, but likely won't hunt Roos, Deer, or Moose again simply because of my love for animals.
Almost everyone that is from my home town that lives there now has a gun cabinet and by law has completed a gun safety course, had an array of checks done on them so they could get the certificate that allows them to own a gun.
I'm happy with the way our countries are towards gun ownership and i'm also happy that i will never live in the United States of America.
The US needs its guns to protect its citizens from the other citizens with guns. Give it up, gun control in the US is as good as it will ever get.
Other more civil countries like Australia and Canada have very reasonable gun laws that allow people to hunt. Cool, well done. I like to hunt birds when i get a chance, but likely won't hunt Roos, Deer, or Moose again simply because of my love for animals.
Almost everyone that is from my home town that lives there now has a gun cabinet and by law has completed a gun safety course, had an array of checks done on them so they could get the certificate that allows them to own a gun.
I'm happy with the way our countries are towards gun ownership and i'm also happy that i will never live in the United States of America.
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I agree to all of the above.
I've had a random safe inspection. Just another effort to make sure responsible firearm owners stay within the law. I like it, I don't find it a hassle. However trying to introduce such strict rules in the US, good luck! You've got more chance of the country actually paying down their debt in the 2000 years.
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Of course there's lots of money in it. That's why the gun lobby is so well supported.
Tell me the % chance of a child being shot in the US compared to the rest of the world.
I had a job offer there but I refused for that reason.
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Former New York Mayor Bloomberg to spend $50 million to push for gun control
lol....Good on ya Michael
lol....Good on ya Michael
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Seven dead in drive-by shooting near the University of California, Santa Barbara
http://www.news.com.au/world/seven-dead-in-driveby-shooting-near-the-university-of-california-santa-barbara/story-fndir2ev-1226930461475
http://www.news.com.au/world/seven-dead-in-driveby-shooting-near-the-university-of-california-santa-barbara/story-fndir2ev-1226930461475
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I was actually in Santa Barbara over the weekend when this happened. Very sad, but it is amazing how it is so common place here (in the US) that life just goes on and it barely even gets a mention from people not immediately affected
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.....land of the free, home of the gun.
In guns we trust...
United States of Guns...
In guns we trust...
United States of Guns...
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As many as five people are believed to have been killed in Las Vegas Walmart shooting
http://www.news.com.au/world/as-many-as-five-people-are-believed-to-have-been-killed-in-las-vegas-walmart-shooting/story-fndir2ev-1226947841537
http://www.news.com.au/world/as-many-as-five-people-are-believed-to-have-been-killed-in-las-vegas-walmart-shooting/story-fndir2ev-1226947841537
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9-year-old girl accidentally kills shooting instructor with Uzi
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That says it all I'm afraid. Kids bought up with guns is a bad way to start a life.
It's not quite as bad as holding a severed head, but it's heading in that direction.
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China and India have larger populations than Planet America but I cannot recall news related to multiple killings by a civilian on civilians. It may happen but isn't reported, I don't know. The occurrence of civilian multiple killing civilians is high in America. Our own mentally ill civilian mass shooting brought about the most effective political decision ever made in my opinion. To hand in your guns or have good reason to be in possession of one and strictly licensed to do so. Thank you John Howard for that wisdom.
