Census 2006

[visual]

Doesn't matter which political party are in power, the census still goes ahead every 5 years, so your argument is fruitless.

So seeing that you live in a very wealthy suburb,presumably with top notch services,its because you deserve it, right? exactly why are these same services not afforded to people who live in less wealthy suburbs,after all they provide the information same as you,pay taxes,illuminate me ,Stop.

 

[krisbarry]

Well, when you fall in love you cannot pick the wealth of your potential partner now can you.

I have lived in 2 successful relationships. The first of which ended for reasons that were not financial but this partner went bankrupt, and I was still standing by their side.

The 2nd I am in now.

Money or wealth is not the reason, I guess its just a little perk of being in love the 2nd time around.

 

[visual]

Well, when you fall in love you cannot pick the wealth of your potential partner now can you.

I have lived in 2 successful relationships. The first of which ended for reasons that were not financial but this partner went bankrupt, and I was still standing by their side.

The 2nd I am in now.

Money or wealth is not the reason, I guess its just a little perk of being in love the 2nd time around.

Stop,you are the one who continually tries to justify your living arrangements.
what this discussion is about is how the government uses the information. I disagree that its used only to allocate services,otherwise we`d all enjoy the same services,dont you agree?

 

[krisbarry]

So seeing that you live in a very wealthy suburb,presumably with top notch services,its because you deserve it, right? exactly why are these same services not afforded to people who live in less wealthy suburbs,after all they provide the information same as you,pay taxes,illuminate me ,Stop.

An example of better services given to poorer suburbs would be....public transport. Poor suburbs get excellent public transport. Wealthier suburbs get very little.

The reason: More wealthier people tend to afford private transport. So the rich pay taxes to help the poor get around town.

 

[visual]

An example of better services given to poorer suburbs would be....public transport. Poor suburbs get excellent public transport. Wealthier suburbs get very little.

The reason: More wealthier people tend to afford private transport. So the rich pay taxes to help the poor get around town.

So you dont often get around the poorer suburbs is that it?

Tell me is public health,a service?can you compare that,what about education?roads,?swimming pools? public libraries,care to discuss if these are services?

 

[krisbarry]

I have lived in many poor suburbs and have had excellent public transport, busses running every 15 minutes and libraries fully of good books etc.

I have even been educated in state schools in poor areas too.

I have also been to state run dental clinics and doctors offices in poor areas, all with excellent service.

I'm not sure what you are harping on about

 

[visual]

I have lived in many poor suburbs and have had excellent public transport, busses running every 15 minutes and libraries fully of good books etc.

I have even been educated in state schools in poor areas too.

I have also been to state run dental clinics and doctors offices in poor areas, all with excellent service.

I'm not sure what you are harping on about

Harping on,I live in the western suburbs of Melbourne,our trains definetely dont run every fifteen minute,plus the trains and buses arent even coordinated,as for public health services,dont get me started on those.

The problems with people who lived in the poorer areas and now refuse to even think about living there again even though they cant afford to live in the wealthier suburbs is that you are so ashamed of having lived there you need to romaticise so your new rich friends dont make you feel like you dont belong in your new surrounds.


Plus Stop,I`m having a bit of a problem dealing with your sense of entitlement.

 

[krisbarry]

Again we will have to agree to disagree...end of discussion

I will enjoy working for the government during the census period and I am sure you will enjoying filling in the forms.

 

[wayneL]

Again we will have to agree to disagree...

Deja Vu?

 

[visual]

Again we will have to agree to disagree...end of discussion

I will enjoy working for the government during the census period and I am sure you will enjoying filling in the forms.

Anyway the census must be only for SA at the moment,certainly heard nothing in Victoria so far.

 

[sandik17]

stop the clock....how'd you get the job? I would like to do that job...how's the pay? Have they employed everyone already?

 

[Smurf1976]

At the end of the day, STC is just doing a paid job as are most others doing everything from flipping burgers to driving trains. It's not the burger flipper's fault that the burgers are full of trans fat or the train driver's fault that the train he/she was told to drive is late because someone else botched up the timetable.

 

[krisbarry]

stop the clock....how'd you get the job? I would like to do that job...how's the pay? Have they employed everyone already?

I saw an ad in the local paper, and applied through the ABS website

http://www.abs.gov.au/

Census Collector recruitment has now finished it was between 8th April to 5th May, so you will have to wait another 5 years to do it.

Its a casual job for a 3 month period and the pay depends on your allocated collection area.

I will be paid around $1,250 (this includes a vehicle and phone allowance) It also includes 9% superannuation.

I am unsure of the total hours of work, but I assume the more prepaired I am the less time it will take to do.

That said I may have to return to some homes up to 5 times depending on how difficult some people make it for me to collect the forms.

 

[krisbarry]

At the end of the day, STC is just doing a paid job as are most others doing everything from flipping burgers to driving trains. It's not the burger flipper's fault that the burgers are full of trans fat or the train driver's fault that the train he/she was told to drive is late because someone else botched up the timetable.

Well said Smurf

 

[visual]

smurf,at the risk of starting this all over again,the point I was trying to make,was that this information although necessary,doesnt always get used properly ,from my point of view.STC seemed to be saying otherwise,I hope it didnt come across that I certainly was holding him responsable,he is but a paid collector I know that.
I wish I was more eloquent but this is the best that I can do. :

 

[Julia]

At the end of the day, STC is just doing a paid job as are most others doing everything from flipping burgers to driving trains. It's not the burger flipper's fault that the burgers are full of trans fat or the train driver's fault that the train he/she was told to drive is late because someone else botched up the timetable.

Smurf

Thank you for restoring some semblance of sense to this thread.

Julia

 

[krisbarry]

Now this is just plain nasty, I am glad nothing happen to me while I was delivering census forms.


Man charged over census assault

August 02, 2006 09:00am

A SYDNEY man has been accused of threatening a census worker with a tomahawk, tearing up her forms and chasing her in his car.

The woman was delivering forms in Larra Street at Yennora, in Sydney's south-west, about 5pm (AEST) yesterday when she was confronted by a 52-year-old man, police said.

He allegedly abused the worker and tore up a census document before throwing her trolley into the street, causing census forms to spill onto the road.

The man then returned to his house and re-emerged with a tomahawk, allegedly threatening the woman and another man.

When the pair got into a car and drove away the man allegedly pursued them in another vehicle, police said.

He was later charged with two counts of assault, two counts of intent to commit indictable offence and mid-range drink driving.

The man was granted conditional bail to appear in Fairfield Local Court on August 22. No-one was injured during the incident, police said.

 

[krisbarry]

Well my 3 month government contract is almost up, and it has been pretty much plain sailing. No major dramas, all the census forms were delivered and I am about 95% complete in collecting.

Just a few people I cannot seem to catch, maybe they work 24/7 who knows.

I cannot disclose any information on the forms, but what I can say is that I have had a few anti-government comments on some forms and a few forms I have just cracked up laughing when skim-reading to check completeness.

It is amazing how the general population act 99% fill out the forms correctly and a few crack the sh_its with nasty comments and a few just make it a good old laugh at the expense of the tax-payer.

Ohhh well, thanks for all being good census form filler-inners...!

Just out of interest the Census cost the tax-payer about $300 million, but money well spent I say!

 

[wayneL]

I wonder how many Jeddi Knights there will be this time.

 

[Julia]

I couldn't see that the responses to he questions would supply government with anything like the information they would need to adequately plan for the future.

The previous one seemed much more detailed.

Julia