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Re: Bicycycle Helmets Kill

nunthewiser said:
shame we not allowed to use the bike paths while all you lycra clad posers blockin up our roads 3 /.4 abreast instead of using YOUR own designated paths
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That's funny becuase my second stack on the bike path was due to a car on the bike track (Council maintenece were working on a retaining wall)... It was parked around a blind corner and I was going 50k's plus... Ifell on to the grass but I counted blessing for not ending up in the river 2 meters away...

:) Don't be a whinger... You have just as much right to ride a bike on the road as I do... You just choose not to... :)
 
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MrBurns said:
Sometimes I drive past parked cars and some idiot throws open his or her door to get out, not just open it but throw it fully open.

If a bike hit that it could kill.

There is no way I would ride on the road, in years gone by it was different, less cars, less fools driving them.
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It all comes down to observing... My brother was a push bike courier for a year and had a few stacks the whole time... You must look out for people in driver's seats... And mostly cars that are frequently moving avout like van driver's and taxi's
 
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nunthewiser said:
shame we not allowed to use the bike paths while all you lycra clad posers blockin up our roads 3 /.4 abreast instead of using YOUR own designated paths
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I don't like people riding abreast it's stupid... And very incosiderate... I'm a very considerate rider
 
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insider said:
I don't like people riding abreast it's stupid... And very incosiderate... I'm a very considerate rider
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Thankyou . i have no probs with those that use the roads for there enjoyment/fitness when being responsible and considerate .

i ride a motorbike on occasion 2 abreast out on the highway .BUT if anyone can get to the point of being close enough to overtake ....... we move
 
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insider said:
It all comes down to observing... My brother was a push bike courier for a year and had a few stacks the whole time... You must look out for people in driver's seats... And mostly cars that are frequently moving avout like van driver's and taxi's
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You can observe all you like but you cant see someone in the drivers seat at times because of the angle and even if you can you dont know if they will violently throw their door open.

To avoid that you have to venture very wide into the traffic, too wide.

I had my wing mirror on the car almost taken off once that way, if I'd been riding a bike they'd be feeding me soup through a straw now.

And again just a few days ago some drone just threw their door wide open as I passed, you can bet they weren't looking out for bikes.

I wonder what the real injury figures are, this must happen all the time.

If you were to hit the side of the door at 30k on a bike you'd be dead.
 
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Julia said:
Something that puzzles me is that even when there is a dedicated bike path, the cyclists still choose to ride on the road amongst the traffic. Why would you cyclists not choose the safer option?
And I'd add that the bike path is better maintained than the roads.
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Ah, for serious commuters, the bike lanes and breakdown lanes are generally too prone to causing punctures from motorists throwing crap out the window and nails etc falling off the back of utes blah. The actual road surface is alot cleaner so you have less chance of a flat.
Also, on alot of the cycle paths I use, both road workes and residents choose to use them as a parking lot, so I'm forever having to navigate around cars and trucks parked on the cycle path. :banghead:
I do disagree with hubards, who arent serious commuters from using the road instead of a dedicated cycleway.

Alot of the time, cyclists are just as fast as cars etc in urban areas. (I can easily keep up with traffic conditions in and around the city) So its just a case of cyclists taking more care when around traffic, and motorists giving us a little more room and patience.
We're getting fit and working hard remember while your sitting in your air conditioned box.

I commute 40km daily on a flatbar fixed gear (see comments below) and always take the cycle lanes where possible. I'll even ride the footbath on busy or dangerous sections of road despite pissing off pedestrians.
Cant please everyone, and I choose life!

insider said:
These "POSERS" are what stoped me from buying a race bike... I think I'll stick with my $700 flat bar road bike... There is also a new kind of poser... "The Fixed Wheel poser" They all want to pretend they are Pushbike-Couriers... Turned me off a fixie...
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You cannot blame posers for any of your choices as a cyclist. If you dont want to look like one, simply ride with some respect for others, and dont go about wearing team replica kits, and dont ride on bikes which are truely well above your capabilities as a cyclist etc etc.

You've also raised another sore point for me about fixed gear riders...
I ride a flatbar fixed gear (one of 4 bikes I own), and no I'm not a courier.
Yes I agree there are a small percentage of riders who are only on them to be apart of the scene, but people like that dont last long. They'll be onto the next fad as soon as they have a scare on the bike.
Generally fixed gear riders are just as passionate about cycling as any other cyclist.

If you want to ride a fixed gear, then do it. Just dont use someone else's actions as an excuse for you not too.

I ride fixed purely because its better for your legs, and you do feel more 'at one' or connected with the bike.
I's a nice experience to be on one of the simplest forms of bycycle, which has been brought down to its bare essentials.
It works both sides of your leg muscles in both directions as you need to control your speed not only when accelerating, but when your decelerating aswell. You also cant stop for a rest every time you feel like which keeps your legs and joints warmed up for the entire ride.
I run a front brake for emergencies, and apart from the most experienced fixed gear riders, I believe if you dont, your asking for trouble.

:2twocents

Back on topic.
Anyone who wants to ride a bicycle without a helmet, should not be riding a bicycle.
 
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insider said:
I don't like people riding abreast it's stupid... And very incosiderate... I'm a very considerate rider
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Its often safer to ride 2 abreast when your not quite doing traffic speed.

If you ride in single file, it leaves the opertunity for an impatient motorist to squeeze past, which is obviously very dangerous.

So on multi lane roads when I'm riding with someone, I will ride 2 abreast to take over that lane and prevent mr motorist from squeezing me into other parked cars or clipping my handlebars etc.

On single lane roads though, cycling 2 abreast is just arrogant, and disrespectfull to other road users.

It just takes a bit of respect from all road users, and a bit of patience from motorists. Generally, most motorists are quite good. :)
 
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highonoctane said:
Ah, for serious commuters, the bike lanes and breakdown lanes are generally too prone to causing punctures from motorists throwing crap out the window and nails etc falling off the back of utes blah. The actual road surface is alot cleaner so you have less chance of a flat.
Also, on alot of the cycle paths I use, both road workes and residents choose to use them as a parking lot, so I'm forever having to navigate around cars and trucks parked on the cycle path. :banghead:
I do disagree with hubards, who arent serious commuters from using the road instead of a dedicated cycleway.

Alot of the time, cyclists are just as fast as cars etc in urban areas. (I can easily keep up with traffic conditions in and around the city) So its just a case of cyclists taking more care when around traffic, and motorists giving us a little more room and patience.
We're getting fit and working hard remember while your sitting in your air conditioned box.

I commute 40km daily on a flatbar fixed gear (see comments below) and always take the cycle lanes where possible. I'll even ride the footbath on busy or dangerous sections of road despite pissing off pedestrians.
Cant please everyone, and I choose life!



You cannot blame posers for any of your choices as a cyclist. If you dont want to look like one, simply ride with some respect for others, and dont go about wearing team replica kits, and dont ride on bikes which are truely well above your capabilities as a cyclist etc etc.

You've also raised another sore point for me about fixed gear riders...
I ride a flatbar fixed gear (one of 4 bikes I own), and no I'm not a courier.
Yes I agree there are a small percentage of riders who are only on them to be apart of the scene, but people like that dont last long. They'll be onto the next fad as soon as they have a scare on the bike.
Generally fixed gear riders are just as passionate about cycling as any other cyclist.

If you want to ride a fixed gear, then do it. Just dont use someone else's actions as an excuse for you not too.
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You're right... I want to restore one and add my personal styling... They do look pretty sweet :) I found some pretty cool products that would jazz up any bike... What do you reckon http://www.monkeylectric.com/
 
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Julia said:
Something that puzzles me is that even when there is a dedicated bike path, the cyclists still choose to ride on the road amongst the traffic. Why would you cyclists not choose the safer option?
And I'd add that the bike path is better maintained than the roads.
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insider said:
Hello Julia long time no speak... :)
Because it may not be necessarily the safer option in the first place... If your doing 40Km/h+ the road is usally safer... I had 2 falls on the bike tracks due to maintenence and none on the roads... I ride 99% of the time on the road... Above all it's legal... I can't stand it when drivers get annoyed about a cyclist up ahead, it's far better than a parked car...
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Stormin_Norman said:
you? against elitism? :eek:





i thought people didnt cycle any more for fear of pedophiles/junkies/fraudsters/the latest diet/pauline hanson?
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highonoctane said:
Its often safer to ride 2 abreast when your not quite doing traffic speed.

If you ride in single file, it leaves the opertunity for an impatient motorist to squeeze past, which is obviously very dangerous.

So on multi lane roads when I'm riding with someone, I will ride 2 abreast to take over that lane and prevent mr motorist from squeezing me into other parked cars or clipping my handlebars etc.

On single lane roads though, cycling 2 abreast is just arrogant, and disrespectfull to other road users.

It just takes a bit of respect from all road users, and a bit of patience from motorists. Generally, most motorists are quite good. :)
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thank you for all your comments.

the thread was really to engender support for the average punter who in days gone by would have cycled instead of being carted about by do-gooders and taxi vouchers.

Even in our local hospital they have golf carts driven by men in too short shorts picking the obese punters up from the far ends of the car parks when they could just as well walk.

The average obese diabetic prone person would be better off cycling to the corner store, TAB, BWS, or their local weed dealer rather than being transported there..

In Townsville we have good bikeways thanks to Tony Mooney so we don't have to put up with drivers when we cycle.

But we do have to put up with those bloody bike helmets which are designed for throat balled lycra clad lunatics who speed about of a Sunday running over pensioners in mobs and drinking latte in my favourite cafe afterwards.

gg

Thats my only point in this thread
 
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Garpal Gumnut said:
Thats my only point in this thread
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Well, no, you haven't proved the thread title for the affirmative yet (whatever a bicycycle is :D), other than they look stoopid? And the fact they have nothing in common with wearing lycra at the same time?
 
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Uncle Festivus said:
Well, no, you haven't proved the thread title for the affirmative yet (whatever a bicycycle is :D), other than they look stoopid? And the fact they have nothing in common with wearing lycra at the same time?
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Yes i have seen ppl wearing lycra suits without wearing helmets and vica-versa , there is no proven correlation and i would like have a referendum put to guvvermint that either lycra wearers pay a fee per year OR if we could bring in on the spot fines for unsuitable lycra users.
 
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MrBurns said:
If you were to hit the side of the door at 30k on a bike you'd be dead.
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Nonsense. A friend of mine came around a blind corner on his bike and ran into the back of a Car that was double parked in the road, talking to his mate in the parked beside him, through open windows. He was doing at least 30 and had lots of bruises and grazes, cycled home... sure you could die but then people die in the bath as well.

That aside it is all down to observation. No one sees cyclists or motorcycle riders, you have to turn your dic_khead detector on full blast.

There is no way I would put myself in the situation where if I could not see (as you suggested), I would speed on past on my bike regardless.

Anyway, I am off to do a 40km ride up the the Dam and back :cool:
 
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Trevor_S said:
Nonsense. A friend of mine came around a blind corner on his bike and ran into the back of a Car that was double parked in the road, talking to his mate in the parked beside him, through open windows. He was doing at least 30 and had lots of bruises and grazes, cycled home... sure you could die but then people die in the bath as well.

That aside it is all down to observation. No one sees cyclists or motorcycle riders, you have to turn your dic_khead detector on full blast.

There is no way I would put myself in the situation where if I could not see (as you suggested), I would speed on past on my bike regardless.

Anyway, I am off to do a 40km ride up the the Dam and back :cool:
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The leading edge of an opening door was what I meant, try it sometime.
 
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Naked shorts said:
Maybe you should wear a helmet to the shower, after all you could slip on the soap and kill yourself (yes it happens). Or how about wearing a helmet every time you go for a drive? Race car drivers do, why doesn't everyone else? You have that choice to wear a helmet while driving to protect yourself, but I'll assume you don't take it.
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How about wearing a helmet on a ski practice slope?
 
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I do around 150K a week on the Pushy.

I keep to tracks and only go on the road for around 4K a day.
Hate that 4K.
I wear a helmut but refuse to wear Lycra---not a good look!
 
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A mate of mine died recently.

He was 62 and hated bicycle helmets.

The coppers leant on him for not wearing one.

He stopped riding his bike, became cranky, his wife left him, he took to the drink and fell in with a bad crowd of women who were not after his looks.

He developed an inflammation of the liver and the heart muscle from the grog.

He died.

He was found beside his beloved Malvern Star

http://www.malvernstar.com.au/range/bike-2391.aspx

With a half drunk bottle of Evan Williams bourbon sour mash.

http://www.drinkhacker.com/2009/02/02/review-evan-williams-black-label-bourbon/

What a loss of a good bloke and all because of this stupid law about bicycle helmets.

gg
 
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Garpal Gumnut said:
A mate of mine died recently.

He was 62 and hated bicycle helmets.

The coppers leant on him for not wearing one.

He stopped riding his bike, became cranky, his wife left him, he took to the drink and fell in with a bad crowd of women who were not after his looks.

He developed an inflammation of the liver and the heart muscle from the grog.

He died.

He was found beside his beloved Malvern Star

http://www.malvernstar.com.au/range/bike-2391.aspx

With a half drunk bottle of Evan Williams bourbon sour mash.

http://www.drinkhacker.com/2009/02/02/review-evan-williams-black-label-bourbon/

What a loss of a good bloke and all because of this stupid law about bicycle helmets.

gg
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Deadly silence,

All the peleton vaseline greased and lycra clad mob with their silly helmets must be out and about running little old folk down of a Sunday run.

gg
 
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Garpal Gumnut said:
Deadly silence,

All the peleton vaseline greased and lycra clad mob with their silly helmets must be out and about running little old folk down of a Sunday run.

gg
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Saw one yesterday doing about 50kph on a track around bends if there were any kids coming the other the bastard would have killed them.
 
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