Bible Verse of the Day

[Whiskers]

Hey all!
The Verse from two days ago says it all! You either believe in God or you dont! If you choose not to well, you will perish in eternal hell!.

Not very 'Christian' language at all, David.

But you conclude with...

Godbless

What do you suppose Godbless means?

Unfortunately, much of above is taken literally as intolerance of non christians, but there is near to nothing in the bible that specifically teaches tolerance... but the following will surfice as todays verse.

1 Corinthians 10:31-32 "Whether therefore ye eat, or drink, or whatsoever ye do, do all to the glory of God. Give none offence, neither to the Jews, nor to the Gentiles, nor to the church of God:"

 

[Sean K]

Hey all!
The Verse from two days ago says it all! You either believe in God or you dont! If you choose not to well, you will perish in eternal hell!.

Hahahaha, Nice work David.

You've opened the flood gates now.

Good luck.

 

[noirua]

I new it was alright to make money. Or is it?: http://www.scripturemenu.com/BibleVerseList.html?topicid=22

The blessing of the Lord makes Rich, and he adds no sorrow with it. Proverbs 10:22

 

[YOUNG_TRADER]

This is where you Christians absolutely lose any goodwill. It's nonsense.

You broke the code implicit on this thread; you turned it from a "quote of the day" to "proselytism via fear".

Therefore you can expect some strong opposition to your brainwashed doctrinal BS.

All Hail the king of the BEARS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[Sean K]

God seems to have quite a few personaility faults, as I have read in the bible.

Let's start counting them down.

Genocidal and Regretful God:

Genesis: 6:7 And the LORD said, I will destroy man whom I have created from the face of the earth; both man, and beast, and the creeping thing, and the fowls of the air; for it repenteth me that I have made them.


And, I'm still not sure how the beasts, the fowls, and the creeping thing deserved to die, when it was the humans who had been very naughty.

Oh well, might as well just kill everything, eh? Nice one.

 

[tcoates]

Kennas,

Please do not go down that road and it will (?) only serve into the hands of those you are arguing against - that is, looking for a written argument. And yes, that is a verse from the bible. But one could also ask the question about how much of Genesis is actual fact, but the meaning behind that verse is that sin affects everyone, and in that case the whole world.

Would be fair to say that for every verse you find to show a "personality fault" one could be found to show the opposite.

Tim

From 1 Corinthians

4 Love is patient and kind;
it is not jealous or conceited or proud;
5 love is not ill-mannered or selfish or irritable;
love does not keep a record of wrongs;
6 love is not happy with evil, but is happy with the truth.
7 Love never gives up; and its faith, hope, and patience never fail.
8 Love is eternal.

and

Luke 6

31 "Do for other people everything you'd like them to do for you.

 

[2020hindsight]

And, I'm still not sure how the beasts, the fowls, and the creeping thing deserved to die,... .

pffft -

you gotta smile.
(PS even the Christians have gotta smile surely )

 

[Sean K]

Kennas,

Please do not go down that road and it will (?) only serve into the hands of those you are arguing against - that is, looking for a written argument. And yes, that is a verse from the bible. But one could also ask the question about how much of Genesis is actual fact, but the meaning behind that verse is that sin affects everyone, and in that case the whole world.

Yes, you are probably right, I've been dragged into the gutter.

Interesting comment about Genesis. You are saying some of Genesis is true? Or, it's all made up and just a parable or metaphor?


Let's hope that Deuteronomy isn't very factual, but I have pause that some of it is actually true.

"Next we headed for the land of Bashan, where King Og and his army attacked us at Edrei. But the LORD told me, 'Do not be afraid of him, for I have given you victory over Og and his army, giving you his entire land. Treat him just as you treated King Sihon of the Amorites, who ruled in Heshbon.' So the LORD our God handed King Og and all his people over to us, and we killed them all. We conquered all sixty of his towns, the entire Argob region in his kingdom of Bashan. These were all fortified cities with high walls and barred gates. We also took many unwalled villages at the same time. We completely destroyed the kingdom of Bashan, just as we had destroyed King Sihon of Heshbon. We destroyed all the people in every town we conquered – men, women, and children alike. But we kept all the livestock for ourselves and took plunder from all the towns." (Deuteronomy 3:1-7)


I'm not sure what message to take from that one....

But of course, this is the Old Testament, and not anything to do with Christianity and Jesus's loving and kindness. Lots of nice quotes in the New Testament. But is that a real story like The Old Testament, or is it too just metaphor and fairytale? Most modern people pick and choose from the Bible I suppose, and the stuff they don't agree with stays tucked away. Selective Christianity. Ah, a new religion perhaps! Lets just take all the good stuff out of the books dedicated to the Cults of Abraham and make a religion that suits us in this modern age of computers, and mobile telephones, and laws, and telescopes, and stuff. In an age when the earth is a globe and we go around the sun. I'm on it!

Keep quoting all the nice stuff by the way, and just ignore the other bits you don't like.

I won't upset this thread anymore.

 

[nomore4s]

Hey all! The Verse from two days ago says it all! You either believe in God or you dont! If you choose not to well, you will perish in eternal hell!.

lol, so if I don't believe in your God I will perish in eternal hell?

Surely the churchs have grown past this sort of crap to try to "convert" people. And if that's the way your God needs to lord over his people I don't want to have anything to do with him or his churchs. Your God sounds like a dictator to me, believe or suffer forever(akin to torture really).

Anyway as I don't believe in your God, I don't believe in your hell, so not really sure how it's meant to scare me into believing

 

[tcoates]

Kennas,

On the old testament see

http://www.apologeticspress.org/articles/298

"Liberal theologians generally have dismissed the historicity of miraculous events, considering them to be the mythological interpretations of natural incidents by two ancient communities: Israel and the early church. Such an approach suggests that the Bible expresses how its authors perceived events, but does not necessarily reflect how they actually happened
Not sure if you will follow the links presented here. And I should note that I am a mere lay person in an Anglican church, so by no means an authority, but..."

Matthew Henry (see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Matthew_Henry) wrote volumes on the bible, on the text in Deuteronomy you mention below) would be best if I refered to you

http://www.studylight.org/com/mhc-com/view.cgi?book=de&chapter=003

(from that page " intimating that they ought to be encouraged by their former victory to trust in God for another victory, for he is God, and changeth not" and "Their conquering and possessing these countries was intended, not only for the encouragement of Israel in the wars of Canaan, but for the satisfaction of Moses before his death")

Tim

 

[David123]

Hey all!

Fear God Because -Romans 2:6 "He will judge everyone according to what they have done"!

Believe In God Because - Romans 3:22 We are made right with God by placing our faith in Jesus Christ. And this is true for everyone who believes, no matter who we are.

Godbless!

 

[bunyip]

Hey all!
The Verse from two days ago says it all! You either believe in God or you dont! If you choose not to well, you will perish in eternal hell!.

Todays verse is Ecclesiastes 9:10 NIV

Whatever your hand finds to do, do it with all your might, for in the grave, where you are going, there is neither working nor planning nor knowledge nor wisdom.

Godbless

With regard to your 'perish in eternal hell quote'......

You clearly have some growing up to do. In matters of religion and Christianity you exhibit all the symptoms of some poor brainwashed person whose lost the ability and desire to think for himself.
You're naive enough to believe that if it's written in the bible, then it must be true.
You do little to enhance the image of Christians and Christianity.
You deserve plenty of flak for what Wayne has correctly labelled 'your doctrinal BS.'


Regarding your second quote about the grave.........

Really? So once we get to the grave, that's the end of the line eh? Well, I'm inclined to agree with you. But it kind of contradicts the much vaunted theory of eternal life that you Christians and your bible like to bandy around, doesn't it?
Still, I guess we shouldn't expect any less from the book that has almost made contradiction and hypocrisy into art forms.

For your next biblical quote, how about giving us one of the really impressive ones, such as 'If your son gets drunk you should take him outside the city gates and stone him to death'.
Or do you intend to just give us the nice quotes, with an odd scary one tossed in that's designed to intimidate us into submitting to your brainwashed Christian doctrine?

 

[Hatchy]

I have an idea!
Everyone abandon the I don't agree with Christians lines and all those on the other side abandon the 'you're all doomed' lines and lets just leave this thread as Bible verse of the day.

No that's never going to work, no matter what because there's always people against people, and for some reason those with beliefs try to make those without feel bad instead of loved and vice versa. Interesting take on what Christianity is, but far far from it's intention...

Those who have a bible, read numbers 1 and learn a lesson about conflict resolution. Maybe that could be the passage for the weekend?

Have a good weekend.

p.s.
The lesson is to take a time out before things run out of hand.

 

[mobcat]

All getting a bit out of hand really ......check this out quite interesting really suits me because i cant spell

fi yuo cna raed tihs, yuo hvae a sgtrane mnid too




Cna yuo raed tihs? Olny 55 plepoe out of 100 can.

i cdnuolt blveiee taht I cluod aulaclty uesdnatnrd waht I was rdanieg. The phaonmneal pweor of the hmuan mnid, aoccdrnig to a rscheearch at Cmabrigde Uinervtisy, it dseno't mtaetr in waht oerdr the ltteres in a wrod are, the olny iproamtnt tihng is taht the frsit and lsat ltteer be in the rghit pclae. The rset can be a taotl mses and you can sitll raed it whotuit a pboerlm. Tihs is bcuseae the huamn mnid deos not raed ervey lteter by istlef, but the wrod as a wlohe. Azanmig huh? yaeh and I awlyas tghuhot slpeling was ipmorantt!

 

[Whiskers]

That's good mobcat. I heard that too... and I read your post just about as easily as if it was spelled properly.

But, what's that got to do with the Bible verse of the day? ... nah don't worry about that, this was more interesting. :

 

[bunyip]

I have an idea!
Everyone abandon the I don't agree with Christians lines and all those on the other side abandon the 'you're all doomed' lines and lets just leave this thread as Bible verse of the day.

No that's never going to work, no matter what because there's always people against people, and for some reason those with beliefs try to make those without feel bad instead of loved and vice versa. Interesting take on what Christianity is, but far far from it's intention...

Those who have a bible, read numbers 1 and learn a lesson about conflict resolution. Maybe that could be the passage for the weekend?

Have a good weekend.

p.s.
The lesson is to take a time out before things run out of hand.

Thing is, dire warnings, intimidation, threats, endorsement and promotion of murder and cruelty, and all sorts of other nasty stuff, are part and parcel of biblical quotes.
If someone is going to quote the bible, and he/she quotes it 'across the board' rather than just quoting the nicer parts, then invariably there will be some rather controversial quotes put forward that invoke disgust, anger and outrage from various people. And when people are disgusted, angered or outraged, we can't realistically expect them to keep quiet and not say or do anything about it.

Apart from that, the objective of public forums is to encourage discussion, debate, and comment on a wide range of issues. The Christian contingent among us should not expect to be able to just post their biblical quotes, without generating some discussion about those quotes. Nor should they be surprised if some of their more controversial quotes ruffle a few feathers.

 

[tcoates]

Apart from that, the objective of public forums is to encourage discussion, debate, and comment on a wide range of issues. The Christian contingent among us should not expect to be able to just post their biblical quotes, without generating some discussion about those quotes. Nor should they be surprised if some of their more controversial quotes ruffle a few feathers.

No problem with debate, but if a poster label the Bible as crap or BS or "any other term" without any real justification or explanation then it labels anyone else that might/does read the Bible either foolish or extreme. On the opposite side, a verse without explanation (for the controversial stuff at least) is equally foolish.

There are literally (?) hundreds of topics in the Bible from MURDER, to LUST to LOVE and GIVING and ADULTERY to name but few. But the text, quoted or otherwise, also needs to be understood in the context of when it was written.

A simple example, in the Bible doves were used as an offering (sacrific):

In Lev 1:14 "And the priest shall bring it unto the altar, and wring off its head, and burn it on the altar; and the blood thereof shall be drained out on the side of the altar."

This was a law in those days for these people (in the Old Testament). How many Christian priests practice the above in todays society? But (could be argued) as a historical (broadly speaking) record so give meaning to the text in the New Testament.

I cannot explain the bad in the World, the typical argument "how can this (war/flood/famine/etc.) happen in (insert place name here)?

In the end you fall into four categories:

a) treat what is written in the Bible literally.

b) believe in what you read, based on knowing when it was written, the context it was written in, and whether/how it applies today.

c) do not believe anything written in the Bible and impossible argue with/against.

d) somewhere between b) and c) and open to reasonable discussion.

Tim

 

[bunyip]

No problem with debate, but if a poster label the Bible as crap or BS or "any other term" without any real justification or explanation then it labels anyone else that might/does read the Bible either foolish or extreme. On the opposite side, a verse without explanation (for the controversial stuff at least) is equally foolish.

Tim

That's fair comment, Tim.
So it's hardly surprising that David123 is seen as foolish or extreme for telling us that we'll burn in hell if our views about God happen to be different to the Christian view.

 

[Garpal Gumnut]

Just in case you bible guys and gals implode there is a koran thread (moi) which will iron out any of the disbelieving doubts you might have.

gg

 

[David123]

Hey All! How great is our God!

Philippians 4:13 (New Living Translation)


" For I can do everything through Christ, who gives me strength"

Godbless!