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JohnDe said:
I first looked on their site - About The Shovel No names or a hint of a source was there.

Then, because the content is yours, I asked you, but you were not forth coming the information.

A google search "who owns The Shovel media" and found Media Bias Fact Check which showed what I had found - "Ownership is not disclosed".

And now the link that you have posted is only a part answer, with only one name being associated as a possible contributor/ owner "James Schloeffel (the brains behind The Shovel)" The War on 2024 Annual Comedy Gala

Thank you for your help, but we still do not know all the facts.
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The Shovel website exists to make up satirical stories about politics, business and life in general. As I see it there are plenty of people who make up some pointed satirical idea and flick it to them. Whoever is there makes a judgement call, plays around with it , finds an appropriate picture and up it goes.

It doesn't highlight owners or contributers because in the end it is the content that makes any point - not some named person.
Financiers for this website ? Do you imagine this is some huge /shadowy org pulling strings to ...do what ?

Perhaps it is exactly what it seems - just a loose group of writers/comedians who have fun pointing out the absurdities and stupidities of life around them. They make a buck from their other life gigs and lighten everyone's lives with the material they produce/curate.

Mark Humphries: Mark Humphries is best known for his viral political sketches on ABC’s 7:30 and SBS’s The Feed and was the host of Channel 10’s quiz show Pointless. He has made unforgettable appearances on ABC’s Insiders and SBS’s The Cook Up and forgettable appearances on Channel 10’s Hughesy We Have A Problem and Would I Lie to You? He also won Celebrity Mastermind but never likes to bring it up.

Veronica Milsom was the adored co-host of Triple J’s Drive show Veronica & Lewis, cast member of Shaun Micallef’s Mad as Hell, and has a CV that stretches well beyond our word count. But here’s a taste … She’s appeared on Home & Away and the remake of Mother and Son, was Head Writer on the ABC Kids series Reef School and hosted the amazing podcasts Threads and Zero Waste Baby. She’s written plays (Porky Pies) and satirical musicals (Good Lord It’s Christmas). But most notably, she played the role of a Martin Short’s ‘giant blow-up sex doll’ at the Sydney Opera House.

James Schloeffel: Founder of satirical news network The Shovel, and the workplace comedy phenomenon Wankernomics, James’s work has been referred to in Federal Parliament, Senate Estimates, The Economist and, most notably, Insight English Skills Year 9, Queensland edition.

Charles Firth is a founding member of the Logie-award winning group The Chaser, the inventor of the decimal system and the co-host of The Chaser Report, a top-30 Australian podcast. Charles has produced television comedy for almost two decades and runs Chaser Digital – one of Australia’s leading comedy and social media brands.
 
Given how much time we have spent dissecting the entrails of The Shovel I thought it would be worthwhile to contribute some material that could be of immense value to anyone still pedaling furiously in the rat race. (You now now these people)

Wankernomics

Are you a total failure at work?​

Do you struggle with simple tasks like using the phrase “circle back” in every email? Have you never used the word “synergies” in a LinkedIn post?

You need Wankernomics.

Wankernomics started life as a live show, helping thousands of gormless Australians unlock the secrets to workplace success through the ancient art of being an annoying wanker.

Now Wankernomics is going even further, with a holistic, integrated, digital-first, multi-platform strategy. That’s right, we’ve set up a few social media accounts and a website.

Follow Wankernomics for tips on how to speak at work, how to look like a genius in meetings, and how to get promoted by simply dropping the phrase ‘360 degree all-hands ideation session’ into an email to your boss.

wankernomics.com

Wankernomics

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basilio said:
The Shovel website exists to make up satirical stories about politics, business and life in general. As I see it there are plenty of people who make up some pointed satirical idea and flick it to them. Whoever is there makes a judgement call, plays around with it , finds an appropriate picture and up it goes.

It doesn't highlight owners or contributers because in the end it is the content that makes any point - not some named person.
Financiers for this website ? Do you imagine this is some huge /shadowy org pulling strings to ...do what ?

Perhaps it is exactly what it seems - just a loose group of writers/comedians who have fun pointing out the absurdities and stupidities of life around them. They make a buck from their other life gigs and lighten everyone's lives with the material they produce/curate.

Mark Humphries: Mark Humphries is best known for his viral political sketches on ABC’s 7:30 and SBS’s The Feed and was the host of Channel 10’s quiz show Pointless. He has made unforgettable appearances on ABC’s Insiders and SBS’s The Cook Up and forgettable appearances on Channel 10’s Hughesy We Have A Problem and Would I Lie to You? He also won Celebrity Mastermind but never likes to bring it up.

Veronica Milsom was the adored co-host of Triple J’s Drive show Veronica & Lewis, cast member of Shaun Micallef’s Mad as Hell, and has a CV that stretches well beyond our word count. But here’s a taste … She’s appeared on Home & Away and the remake of Mother and Son, was Head Writer on the ABC Kids series Reef School and hosted the amazing podcasts Threads and Zero Waste Baby. She’s written plays (Porky Pies) and satirical musicals (Good Lord It’s Christmas). But most notably, she played the role of a Martin Short’s ‘giant blow-up sex doll’ at the Sydney Opera House.

James Schloeffel: Founder of satirical news network The Shovel, and the workplace comedy phenomenon Wankernomics, James’s work has been referred to in Federal Parliament, Senate Estimates, The Economist and, most notably, Insight English Skills Year 9, Queensland edition.

Charles Firth is a founding member of the Logie-award winning group The Chaser, the inventor of the decimal system and the co-host of The Chaser Report, a top-30 Australian podcast. Charles has produced television comedy for almost two decades and runs Chaser Digital – one of Australia’s leading comedy and social media brands.
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I know all that, but there must be someone or a group that have the final say on what is published. Why is she/he/they not willing to publish their name or take responsibility for what they post?

Is it a way of taking away consumers rights to comment and make judgement of the contributors/comedians? I don't know but I do know that we should all be responsible and liable.

Who funds the site?

How do we know that it is not a political party?

These are legitimate questions that can only be answered by those in control of the website.

Is it because they are happy to have right leaning comedians cancelled, but they want to ensure that the same doesn't happen to them?

 
basilio said:
Liked this analysis.

Why I’ve changed my mind about the social media bill​

Andrew Wilkie

The ban is a blunt instrument that will silence the voices of young people instead of placing the onus on tech companies to protect them

Wed 27 Nov 2024 17.54 AEDT

I have a confession to make. I’ve done something that politicians aren’t expected to do. I’ve realised I was wrong and changed my mind.
I have two teenage daughters and three teenage stepsons, and when the federal government announced that they were going to ban social media for under-16-year-olds, I was onboard.

Like all of us, I’ve seen and heard of the toxic harms of social media. And one thing I think we can agree on is that the government has a responsibility to protect children and young people from preventable harms. So at first glance it seemed like a great idea, and I was ready to back it in.
But as I read and listened to experts, my colleagues, constituents and young people themselves, I began to wonder if what we’re getting is just a simplistic kneejerk reaction. It may play well with parents who only see a headline on the news, but will it actually do the job?

Social media for many young people is a place to build community and ensure they don’t feel alone, and may be the only place some feel safe seeking support. This is particularly true for people in rural and remote communities, and those from more marginalised groups.

We have heard a lot from the parents’ perspective, but the voices of children and young people have been conspicuously missing from most of the debate and commentary. That’s despite the UN Convention on the Rights of the Child asserting in article 12 that children should be “provided the opportunity to be heard in any judicial and administrative proceedings affecting the child”. And, in article 13, that children have the “freedom to seek, receive and impart information and ideas of all kinds, regardless of frontiers, either orally, in writing or in print, in the form of art, or through any other media of the child’s choice”.

On top of this, even politicians tasked with looking at it have noted that the causal link between social media and harms aren’t clear. And that the risks associated with social media use are not driven by social media itself, but by business models that thrive on engagement-based algorithms and lack of protections and safety features for users. Moreover, we are naive if we think young people aren’t going to find ways around this ban or move to more unregulated spaces like the dark web.

Those are some of the more philosophical reasons why I’ve shifted my position. But there are some practical ones too. For example, there is the fact that the bill is vague and leaves it entirely up to the minister to figure out how it will work. And when asked by my colleague Rebekha Sharkie about the mechanics of age verification, the minister couldn’t give a clear answer.

Is every Australian going to have to hand over their driver’s licence or passport to Mark Zuckerberg and Elon Musk just to access an app on their phone? And can we trust them to use and store such information appropriately?

There is also the fact that, despite all the histrionics about protecting children from harm, the government has dropped plans to ban gambling advertising, shelved their Environmental Protection Agency, kicked environmental law reform into the long grass and continue to cheer on fossil fuels. Surely our kids deserve protection from predatory gambling companies and the climate emergency too.

If we truly want to get serious about protecting our kids online we could better regulate social media companies and their algorithms. We could put the onus on them to implement safety by design. And we could steer kids towards more respectful behaviour.

This proposed ban is a blunt instrument being rushed through before an election. It ignores the nuances and restricts young people rather than focusing on those responsible for the harm. There are any number of things the government could be doing if they were serious about preventing harm, but I reckon in this case they are just playing pre-election games and the opposition is more than happy to go along for the ride.

  • Andrew Wilkie is the independent member for Clark
www.theguardian.com

Why I’ve changed my mind about the social media bill | Andrew Wilkie

The ban is a blunt instrument that will silence the voices of young people instead of placing the onus on tech companies to protect them
www.theguardian.com www.theguardian.com
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Wilkie has been pushing forever for a limit on gambling, I just read this report and it would seem to me that a limit on the tim epeople could gamble would be easy.
An initial limit on when gambling is allowed would seem simple.

www.smh.com.au

The worst time of night for problem gamblers has been revealed – by accident

The accidental uploading of a gambling report to government servers on Monday drew attention to an issue that was supposed to have been put into archives.
www.smh.com.au www.smh.com.au

Commissioned by the NSW government in 2022 to investigate the impact of late-night poker machine playing on gambler behaviour, the researchers found late-night play was strongly linked to problematic gambling behaviour.

The risk noticeably increased after midnight, with nearly two-thirds of those who gambled between 2am and 8am experiencing significant negative consequences. More than 22 per cent were classified as problem gamblers.
 
SirRumpole said:
The best and worst States to do business.

www.abc.net.au

Victoria named worst state to open new cafe as Labor debates brand damage in Albanese stronghold

A Business Council ranking of states and territories has crowned South Australia the best place in the country to run a business and labelled Victoria the worst. It could spur a debate inside Labor about whether the state is beginning to hurt Anthony Albanese's election chances.
www.abc.net.au www.abc.net.au
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What this ought do is stop people believing in political parties and instead look at the case by case detail.

Because the best state has a Labor government as does the worst. And the second best is Liberal.

It's not the party that matters, it's the policies and approach which is a product of the people involved. :2twocents
 

“Why Dutton’s Plan for New Flying-Mermaid Cheese Planets Makes Economic Sense” ​

A guest post by The Australian’s Economics Editor, Judy Scone​

“This week Peter Dutton released his much-anticipated plan to build a hundred new planets out of cheese by 2035. It was a relief to finally see a mature proposal put forward for solving Australia’s energy crisis.
According to Dutton, the new planets will be built by flying mermaids, with cheese grown in bat caves using yet-to-be-developed dragon-fire technology. Which, when you think about it, makes perfect economic sense.

While News Corp hasn’t advocated for, or even heard of flying mermaid dragon-fire cheese before today, now that it’s been fed to us as a Coalition talking point, it couldn’t be clearer that this is the only way forward for Australia.

The benefits, although they haven’t been articulated or costed in any way, are so obvious, they don’t even require explanation.

What we should be asking ourselves instead, is why Labor is standing in the way of spending an unknown amount on dragon-fire cheese planets built by imaginary mermaids. By stubbornly refusing to even consider ideas such as these, as usual, they are holding Australia back.

As anyone who has read the press release leaked to us today will tell you, Cheese-Enabled Planetary Technology (CEPT) is a far superior form of energy generation to wind and solar. And without the need for ugly panels or turbines (see image above).

It’s important to point out that the often-referenced CSIRO modelling, which claimed that building cheese-based planets using mermaid labour was “ducking ridiculous”, is based on flawed data. Their assumptions that mermaids and dragons don’t exist are nothing more than that – assumptions. Clearly the ‘scientists’ at the CSIRO haven’t read the Coalition’s extensive one-page analysis which shows that mermaids, once invented, can build cheese-based celestial objects quickly and affordably.

Dutton’s plan is the well-thought-through energy solution we’ve been waiting for for decades. As Peter Dutton so eloquently explained this week, the bat caves can be up and running within a year, and the first twenty cheese planets can be fully operational and producing electricity by the end of the decade. This is the level of certainty Australians so desperately need.

No doubt the usual naysayers will rear their heads. They’ll complain about the lack of costings, proven technology, and community consultation, or the fact that planets made out of cheese could melt as they rotate around the sun. Some will claim that cheese planets don’t exist. But that’s merely a ploy from desperate hecklers trying to distract you from what is clearly a sensible economic plan for Australia’s future.

As we head to the next election, Australians will have a choice to make. Do they want wacky energy solutions dreamed up on the back of an envelope? Or do they want cheese planets built by mermaids and powered by dragon fire? I look forward to sharing my further thoughts on the merits of cheese-based power in a further seventy columns between now and then”.
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This article features in The 2024 Shovel Annual. To read more stuff like this, buy the Annual here.

theshovel.com.au

“Why Dutton’s Plan for New Flying-Mermaid Cheese Planets Makes Economic Sense” — The Shovel

While News Corp hasn’t advocated for, or even heard of flying mermaid dragon-fire cheese before today, now that it’s been fed to us as a Coalition talking point, it couldn’t be clearer that this is the only way forward for Australia.
theshovel.com.au theshovel.com.au
 
An post on X from Matt Camenzuli, an expelled NSW liberal council member.
A bitter man to be sure, but he speaks to the problems we face in OZ.
Mick
It is wrong to blame Anthony Albanese for the mess we are in right now.
It is not his fault.Being frustrated, disappointed or even angry with Albanese or his government for the state of the nation is like being upset with the noise of a pack of black cockatoos waking you from an afternoon nap.
They are just living in accordance with their nature.
We don’t expect lions to spare the majestic gazelle on the savannah.
Lions chase and eat gazelle. .It should have run faster.
It is in a lion’s nature and nature does what it does.
Anthony Albanese was always going to be this bad. It is in his nature.
His side of politics have for too long built our nation in their image.
So compelling has their narrative been, that they have captured all but a couple of minor parties. To our detriment.
In truth, our predicament is due in no small part to the Coalition – most notably the Liberal Party.
There has not been a competition for ideas here in Australia at a state level for as long as I can remember, just a changing of shirt colours.
No real change of direction no matter who governs.
The same has been true federally for more than a decade.
Abbott was the last leader to bring a sense of change, a reason to get up and fight.
He stopped the boats and reset our posture in that space. He scrapped the carbon tax, before it had the chance to bite.
Sure, there was more he could have done. But he did not have the support of most of his party.
The Liberals had been watered down by Labor and Greens; it had already been captured.
You can’t deny the fact that he sought a clear mandate, and he delivered on it.
The reason so much of Australia took a chance with Albanese, knowing full well that governing well was not in his nature; it’s because from Turnbull to Morrison, the Liberals had completely lost their way.
The forces against the instincts of Liberal voters had completely overrun the party.
People like Alex Hawke and Matt Kean, who in truth do not belong in the Liberal Party, or anywhere near Australian politics, have been making the decisions in the background ever since.
They are a dead-weight on the vote, and they destroy all hope. Weak, feckless and lacking in vision, they play the waiting game. At some point Labor will upset people enough to give them a turn. This way they get to repay the favours. They get to have a go.The Liberals can still lose the next election. The campaigns have not even started. Rumour has it, that Alex Hawke may be promoted again to the shadow ministry.This will not be because of his talent, but because of his power in the back room. His playing between Photios, Kean, Bragg, McIntosh, Ley and Leeser. His ability to whisper in the ears of factional enemies - and play the middle ground between.
He can do this because he stands for nothing. He believes in only his own pathway to the top job. He was Morrison’s right hand in NSW, he delayed selections to put more supporters in seats - to the detriment of Australia.
When Morrison betrayed Australia with his idiotic Covid flip flopping, when Hawke himself denied Djokovic the ability to play in the Australian open, when they imposed Net Zero and destroyed any hope for cheap and reliable energy – Hawke was right there.
If Hawke is promoted to the shadow ministry, it is a clear sign that the Liberal Party has not learned anything.
That the Liberals have not got the right nature to do the job.
That they are more Pesutto than Menzies - and they will lose the election.
They will lose because they will not be better than Labor.
They will be just more of the same.Australia can’t afford this to go on much longer, and the Party will not survive. It will take time for something new to come up in its place.It does not have to be this way. It is a choice.I hope Mr. Dutton choses well.
We need to get Australia back.
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Matt Camenzuli was expelled for a reason. He was part of the problem, not the solution.

This video sums up the whole thing really well. The attack on McIntosh's campaign is disturbing because she is a very good member and actually increased her vote at the last election.



It's bad enough with Labor having 2 factions. When you have Liberal with 3 factions + a Coalition partner it simply won't work.

I think we will have a hung parliament after the election. The first 3 days of next year start with Wednesday, Thursday, Friday... as in WTF - that says it all :)
 

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