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On a different note, an article that explains exactly why Australia needs to go back to State owned public social housing, as it was years ago when Albo was a young bloke fighting to stop the housing commission houses from being sold off.
It is very much like any other public service, it needs to be built before it is required, just like the electricity system.
You don't decide to put in more generation when everything is blacked out, you put it in before the load increases, that is why it needs to be in Government hands.
The same applies with water, sewage and social housing, the private sector has no interest in spending money on poor return, poor tenant housing, but it is required.
That's why it was built and owned by the Government, as a public service, remember.
When I read this article, it sounds like we need exactly what we used to have, State housing commissions, building and operating social housing back when politicians were actually responsible for something other than throwing around taxpayers money to the private sector.

Australia needs a genuine national housing strategy to make adequate housing available for everyone in the country, researchers have argued.
We need an ambitious national project that deals with every area of housing policy as a coherent whole, and which ends the fragmentation of responsibilities between different levels of government, and across different agencies.

It should acknowledge that the Australian government has a special capacity to finance public projects and use money for the public good.

And it needs to drive the construction of 950,000 social and affordable rental dwellings by 2041, which, at 50,000 new dwellings every year, is far higher than current government target of 8,000 dwellings a year over the next five years.

In a new report published on Thursday by the Australian Housing and Urban Research Institute (AHURI), researchers say a national strategy is needed to overcome decades of accumulated policy errors that have contributed to our current housing crisis.

They say it will require new federal legislation, new federal agencies, and a new appreciation that people in a civilised society have a right to adequate housing.

It has been co-authored by six academics: Chris Martin, UNSW Sydney; Julie Lawson, RMIT University; Vivienne Milligan, UNSW Sydney; Chris Hartley, UNSW Sydney; Hal Pawson, UNSW Sydney; and Jago Dodson, RMIT University.

They argue Australia's incoherent and fragmented housing policies have become so unworkable a circuit-breaker is needed.
 
I reckon governments (preferably one form only) should invest in high rise apartment blocks , giving the most dwellings for available land surface.

These buildings could contain shopping centres, specialty shops, professional services like accountants, lawyers, medical , childminding, government services etc, so most of the services needed would be in one place.

They could be built over railway stations to give easy access to transport.

Some of the apartments would be at market rates or slightly lower to provide competition for the commercial market, but a certain number of apartments would be reserved for people such as students on Austudy, women and children in domestic violence situations, homeless people who can't afford commercial rents, and older people who want to downsize from a 4 bedroon house in the suburbs to an easy maintenance dwelling close to services (and cruise ship terminals).

Rent would be charged on ability to pay and would not exceed a fixed rate of income (or liquid assets).

The government agency would be collecting good rents on the commercial operations in the building which would offset the subsidised rates given to others, and would provide competition to the private sector landlords therefore bringing down rents in the general market.
 
Yes Labor always have better media tacticians and a more receptive media, unfortunately Labor end up blowing their feet off big time, then the Libs get back in.
But Labor get a lot of things moving, it is the implementation that lets them down, they try to do too much too quickly, a bit like choking in sport.

Like now we have inflation on the move, which helps balance the books.

We have the NDIS getting hammered, which it needs.

We have immigration going through the roof, which will help put a cap on wages.
We are trying to re write the constitution.
The infighting in Labor is winding up.

Next it culminates in a recession and everyone gets pizzed off and the Libs get voted in.
Wash rinse repeat.

I think at the moment Labor just has more material to work with current Liberals are pretty ordinary as for Van sounds like a real grub he is no young buck
 
I think at the moment Labor just has more material to work with current Liberals are pretty ordinary as for Van sounds like a real grub he is no young buck
The sad part is we pay these grubs and the only thing that can be said is one side is less grubby than the other, just underlines the disgraceful depths the moral standards in Canberra have fallen to and they are supposed to set the stanfard for the rest of us.
Just a disgraceful display of human flotsam IMO
 
I reckon governments (preferably one form only) should invest in high rise apartment blocks , giving the most dwellings for available land surface.

These buildings could contain shopping centres, specialty shops, professional services like accountants, lawyers, medical , childminding, government services etc, so most of the services needed would be in one place.

They could be built over railway stations to give easy access to transport.

Some of the apartments would be at market rates or slightly lower to provide competition for the commercial market, but a certain number of apartments would be reserved for people such as students on Austudy, women and children in domestic violence situations, homeless people who can't afford commercial rents, and older people who want to downsize from a 4 bedroon house in the suburbs to an easy maintenance dwelling close to services (and cruise ship terminals).

Rent would be charged on ability to pay and would not exceed a fixed rate of income (or liquid assets).

The government agency would be collecting good rents on the commercial operations in the building which would offset the subsidised rates given to others, and would provide competition to the private sector landlords therefore bringing down rents in the general market.
One critical addition to that excellent idea.

The apartments have to be designed/built for a 80 year life. The hidden scourge in many of the apartment blocks built to date has been poor materials and indifferent build quality. We already have evidence of scores of buildings with inflammable cladding. There are many others with water ingress eating out the walls. Generally speaking office blocks are built for a 20 year life. After that they are expected to be extensively overhauled. That can't be allowed to happen with long term residential accommodation.

And finally they should look good. Attractive design improves everything.
 
The sad part is we pay these grubs and the only thing that can be said is one side is less grubby than the other, just underlines the disgraceful depths the moral standards in Canberra have fallen to and they are supposed to set the stanfard for the rest of us.
Just a disgraceful display of human flotsam IMO
To me the main point is that women don't want to vote Liberal and see them as anti women,
generally their vote is well down (20 or 30% from memory from the men) and so vote teal.
This does not help their cause.
 
One critical addition to that excellent idea.

The apartments have to be designed/built for a 80 year life. The hidden scourge in many of the apartment blocks built to date has been poor materials and indifferent build quality. We already have evidence of scores of buildings with inflammable cladding. There are many others with water ingress eating out the walls. Generally speaking office blocks are built for a 20 year life. After that they are expected to be extensively overhauled. That can't be allowed to happen with long term residential accommodation.

And finally they should look good. Attractive design improves everything.

One would hope that with proper government oversight standards should be high.

Commercial operators who want a quick return are a different proposition to governments that want a long term income stream.

Building inspectors should be public servants not mates of the builders.
 
The sad part is we pay these grubs and the only thing that can be said is one side is less grubby than the other, just underlines the disgraceful depths the moral standards in Canberra have fallen to and they are supposed to set the stanfard for the rest of us.
Just a disgraceful display of human flotsam IMO

They pretty much take it in turn but the Liberals probably suffer more because of the lower numbers of women in their ranks than Labor politics can attract unsavory types

In the private workforce these days any crossing of the line you are shot immediately
 
They pretty much take it in turn but the Liberals probably suffer more because of the lower numbers of women in their ranks than Labor politics can attract unsavory types

In the private workforce these days any crossing of the line you are shot immediately
That just fits the current narrative, I haven't found a nasty, unsavory personality, to be gender or party specific, as can be seen by the current debacle.

After Carmen lawrence I find it hard to agree with your take, that's from a personal perspective, but that's another story not for on here.
 
I am shifting to Queensland.
They Queenland Government have it all worked out.
My legal identity will then be matched by my lived identity, namely as a multi billionaire.
Mick
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To me the main point is that women don't want to vote Liberal and see them as anti women,
generally their vote is well down (20 or 30% from memory from the men) and so vote teal.
This does not help their cause.
They are anti braincells right now. Lucky Dutton moved fast. They need members that are more attuned to the current world without pandering to idiotic trends.
 
They are anti braincells right now. Lucky Dutton moved fast. They need members that are more attuned to the current world without pandering to idiotic trends.
Not sure he is that quick. Bringing up the Higgens thing again wasn't going to help the cause.
 
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I believe the term used was "insufficient evidence", pretty much like the current "investigations".

Well, that should please you because you have stressed that the "burden of proof" lies with the accuser.

Is it different for Labor people ?
 
Well, that should please you because you have stressed that the "burden of proof" lies with the accuser.

Is it different for Labor people ?
Good observation. Yes it is, not in burden of proof, but in media treatment.
 
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