Sean K
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Well it certainly appears, that some are trying to put a bit of space between themselves and him.
Starting to look like a huge train wreck IMO, if I was him I would be claiming mental health issues, but I'm no expert.
I wonder if sportsbet has a book running on this?
It must be a very nervous time for those facing a Lehrmann defamation claim IMO.
I think this will definitely be made into a mini series at a later date.
The claimant walks away with a payout, the accused fights on to prove innocence and claim compensation, the wreckage tries to mitigate the damage.
What a classic. ?
Well if there has been any interference and conspiracy in the case, it is starting to become obvious where it came from and it doesn't appear to be the Liberal party.Good on him for actually turning up. He's been flogged.
Well if the lawyer thinks that Wilkinson suffered at the hands of the media, she should spare a thought for Lehrmann IMO.
It's starting to look like Drumgold is getting dragged out from under the bus, just so he can be chucked under again. ?
Weren't Wilkinson and Drumgold meant to be working to help Brittany Higgins? Jeez when friends fall out.
Drumgold says that the media misrepresents issues, it is o.k if the misrepresentation works in your favour I guess. ?
Lehrmann DPP targets media in grilling by Lisa Wilkinson’s lawyer
Lisa Wilkinson’s lawyer said her client suffered “destruction” at the hands of the media for a speech about Brittany Higgins, that caused Bruce Lehrmann’s rape trial to be delayed.www.theage.com.au
Lisa Wilkinson’s lawyer has accused the ACT’s top prosecutor, Shane Drumgold, SC, of providing irrational responses to her questions during a lengthy exchange in which he claimed every media outlet misreported Bruce Lehrmann’s rape trial.
Defamation lawyer Sue Chrysanthou, SC, told an inquiry into authorities’ handling of the case that her client, a high-profile journalist, suffered “utter destruction” at the hands of the media for a Logies speech about Lehrmann’s accuser, Brittany Higgins, that caused the trial to be delayed.
However, he said there had been “nothing but misreporting in this matter”, referring to the case more broadly.
“Every media outlet is misrepresenting the entire trial,” Drumgold said. “I simply couldn’t change the flow of the media.”
Drumgold has pointed out a fairly intereting point with the media.However, he said there had been “nothing but misreporting in this matter”, referring to the case more broadly.
“Every media outlet is misrepresenting the entire trial,” Drumgold said. “I simply couldn’t change the flow of the media.”
It certainly is and it will be very interesting when the defamation case is brought to trail, who is responsible for what if anything was said is becoming more and more convoluted, 'you never said I shouldn't have said it, but I inferred it, well I didn't understand it'. ?It's getting too complex for my simple mind.
100% agree. However, i do not think the electorate is mature enough for that at this time.I see that Tasmania now has a minority government following the resignation of two MP's from the Liberal Party.
So it seems at least possible that the last domino may be about to fall for the Liberals nationally.
The Liberals really do need to be razed and reformed from the ground up.
I doubt there are feasible answers to the above, it will require our country to be FUBAR before any of the above could be considered.... Well I guess that is actually in progress.
What we're seeing is I think an illustration of why adversity is necessary.I think Australia is imploding from the inside out and the result wont be pretty.
I am fairlly sure they will get a decent lesson soon enough ....What we're seeing is I think an illustration of why adversity is necessary.
There hasn't been a proper recession since the early-1990's and that means nobody under age ~45 has any real comprehension of one. Anything since then has been a "technical" recession at most but it didn't come with the usual misery associated with one.
So we've got a pretty decent portion of the population, and quite a few MP's now, who simply have no idea of what tough times actually involve.
When I went to NZ in the 1990's they certainly didn't appear to rolling in money, most of the young people I spoke to had three jobs."New Zealanders are so poor many of their children have to sleep in the boxes the TV came in" (paraphrasing)
David Lange .. 1980s PM.
While everyone's being so cheery, let's not forget that we would be on a relatively quick road to national non-existence based on birth rate, if you took out immigration and oldies sticking around longer. Fertility rate of 1.7 in 2021 and 1.59 for 2020 - https://aifs.gov.au/research/facts-and-figures/births-australia-2023 .
It's much worse in some other parts of the world, though: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_sovereign_states_and_dependencies_by_total_fertility_rate .
Sooo often the woman on the right-hand side of the IQ distribution curve will delay and delay and delay, then if she beats the buzzer she MIGHT be able to produce one live child; good chance said child is on "the spectrum", has lots of allergies, is gender fluid and such like.
Why would young people have kids if they can't afford a house to raise them in ?
The human race is like any other race, they breed when conditions are good (unless in Africa where they don't have access to contraception).
If people want to lift the birth rate then they have to make it economically attractive to have children which means reducing housing costs and increasing parenting benefits.
I agree on the first point; planning and delayed gratification are, ironically, an indicator that one's reproduction would typically uplift society.
Second point: it's debatable, Japan started its decline in fertility long before the contraceptive pill was available there. Maybe it's not so bad if the world all reduced fertility across the board; but if it's not across the board, your more prolific neighbours will eventually just waltz in and take over the joint after a few generations of half as many kids being born each time with endless wards of geriatrics to look after.
Your third point; I understand such strategies often only make folks bring forward children they were going to have anyway. However Hungary has apparently moved the needle with its extreme incentivisation efforts, but it's still below replacement rate - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Family_policy_in_Hungary . I don't know what the solution is.
But in the end national extinction may not be bother you or many people. It doesn't bother many in Japan - they're probably expecting more of a robot-assisted future; their being not typically so keen on mass immigration.
Anyways, it's been a bit on my mind after watching my man Jordan rap with a data scientist regarding his doco on the topic -.
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Parenting benefits, were canned by the anti middle class welfare lobby, the ones who are now complaining about immigration. ?If people want to lift the birth rate then they have to make it economically attractive to have children which means reducing housing costs and increasing parenting benefits.
On the subject of two birds and one stone, do we really need a 'voice', when they are actually getting a bigger one with the birth rate?
It's an interesting subject, giving a growing sector of the population, special political rights.
If the population growth rate stays on trend, and increases by 23% every 5 years, it should be an interesting number in 2050.
Back of a napkin about 11,000,000, which if the population is 35 million as predicted by the Government, it gives that sector a very big say.
Ah speculation and statistics, all good fun.
There were 309,996 registered births in 2021, an increase of 15,627 (5.3%) from 2020. For all Australian women, the total fertility rate was 1.70 births per woman. For Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander women, the total fertility rate was 2.34 births per woman.
As at 30 June 2021 there were 984,000 Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander people, representing 3.8% of the total Australian population. This is an increase of 185,600 people (23.2%) since 30 June 2016.
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