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That'd be right.
From the above article,
We know what message transferring them the other way will send.
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That'd be right.
From the above article,
We know what message transferring them the other way will send.
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Customs and Border Protection are now doing the media releases on boat arrivals,
That's 250 more since the beginning of the week.
http://www.customs.gov.au/site/media-releases-2013.asp
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Well it won't be long before the people smugglers, overload the PNG solution.
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Would you trust either of these two guys to keep his word? I'd say their "agreement" is not worth the paper it is written on. The only thing they have agreed on is to sign it.
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The only viable solution, is to stop asylum seekers from attempting the journey.
If they feel there is any chance of being under the Australian welfare umbrella, wether that is PNG, Narua or anywhere else. They will keep coming, they know that our asylum seeker legal advocate system, will get them residency, it just takes time.
Turning back the boats, so there is little chance of actually arriving and then losing their money.
This will soon have the asylum seekers refusing to pay before they are safely delivered. The people smugglers will soon lose interest in that plan.
If they feel there is any chance of being under the Australian welfare umbrella, wether that is PNG, Narua or anywhere else. They will keep coming, they know that our asylum seeker legal advocate system, will get them residency, it just takes time.
Turning back the boats, so there is little chance of actually arriving and then losing their money.
This will soon have the asylum seekers refusing to pay before they are safely delivered. The people smugglers will soon lose interest in that plan.
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Would you trust either of these two guys to keep his word? I'd say their "agreement" is not worth the paper it is written on. The only thing they have agreed on is to sign it.
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I understand it was only an arrangement...
. Worth even less of the paper it was written on!
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Another perspective on African migrants coming to Australia
Check out the ABC documentary called Growing up and going home. Worth remembering that we are talking about people like us rather than boogy men. (IMO)
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Check out the ABC documentary called Growing up and going home. Worth remembering that we are talking about people like us rather than boogy men. (IMO)
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I understand it was only an arrangement...
I stand corrected. But the impressive folder which they are holding might be worth a few bucks. A plain manila folder would have been more apt.
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It is well worth a listen. But it raises the question as to why the loony-left, Greens, do-gooders and bleeding hearts want to inflict this same scourge on us as the UK suffers, by advocating welcoming the Muslim illegal immigrants. I would welcome an answer as I am completely baffled. :dunno:
They will say they are fleeing persecution...which is just bullsh!t.
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Thanks Nioka. (and good to hear from you again.)
Whilst perhaps employing a little hyperbole, the essential message in that video also describes what is already happening here.
We have tens of thousands or more of Australians, many of whom have contributed to the tax coffers during their working lives, homeless, whether because of mental or physical illness, job loss through no fault of their own, or organic disadvantage, homeless and unable to access the services they so badly need, while those who can pay people smugglers burn down new air conditioned, ensuited accommodation which they disdain.
The Greens and the Labor Left talk with misty eyes about having compassion. Fine. Let's have some compassion for the people who have been languishing in UNHCR camps for many years, proven refugees, devoid of the latest model laptops and designer clothing so freely exhibited by many of the boat arrivals.
I have never once seen a single explanation from anyone in the above political groups regarding why the 'compassion' should be so reserved for people who are wealthy enough to fly to Indonesia, then pay thousands to people smugglers to seek the privileged life in Australia.
How is it possible that they can so ignore the plight of so many Australian people who so need our help?
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That clip is years old, the influx into the U.K has been going on for years, all countries with a robust welfare system are being inundated.
People are not asylum seekers when they transit through another country, such as Indonesia.
They can stay there, however Indonesia just charges them for an intransit visa, untill they can source a people smuggler.
How Rudd can go to Indonesia and kiss ar$e, to have Bam Bang tell us not to turn back the boats, is unbelievable.
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I think Abbott's plan or new plan (seems the old one didn't / wouldn't work) of having his own private general outside of the military chain of command a sheer master stroke.
Of course the new general would need his own spy agency etc (minor detail) I think it appropriate that they goose step in any major parades.
Of course the new general would need his own spy agency etc (minor detail) I think it appropriate that they goose step in any major parades.
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Or we can do as your mate Kev wants and have Indonesia run our Military.
Like the other month when they had our naval vessel enter Indonesian waters to pick up a boat 40k's of their coast.
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Don't forget this is a mess Rudd created with his crazy policy of abolishing the successful Pacific Solution. And now you mock efforts by the coalition to fix Rudd's mess? The coalition handed over secure borders to labor in 2007 and looks like they will be handed a right royal mess of debt, thousands of arrivals and the sheer debacle of carbon tax.
How you can mock the opposition when your side caused these massive problems which now need fixing is unbelievable!!!
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A count of boat arrival media releases from the Customs and Jason Clare's Home affairs site reveals there are now 775 arrivals from 11 boats now subject to Kevin Rudd's new PNG arrangement.
This again illustrates that a government that doesn't have it's heart in what it's doing is no match for the people smugglers.
This again illustrates that a government that doesn't have it's heart in what it's doing is no match for the people smugglers.
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Poor Richo is hoping the people smugglers run out of knives before they run out of boats.
http://www.theaustralian.com.au/opi...-risky-brilliant/story-fnfenwor-1226685228691
http://www.theaustralian.com.au/opi...-risky-brilliant/story-fnfenwor-1226685228691
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Rudd has given Tony Burke the worst job in Australia as a payback for his past sins against Rudd. He hasn't got a clue what he is doing or who will be sent to Manus.
What we do know is that women and children and families won't go there until there are "permanent" facilities. (two years away?) He says the new arrivals can't be sent there until they have been screened for security, disease and illness. So do we get to keep in Australia those who fail this screening, and where?
And to think that there are some clowns on this thread who along with Rudd are rubbishing Abbott's proposal.:screwy:
Perhaps IFocus can tell us how Rudd is going to put the wheels back on his crazy ill-thought-out scheme that he plucked out of thin air.
We always knew that a massive bribe was the best way to get us out of this mess, but it would have made more sense to bribe the Indonesians than O'Neill. They could easily stop the illegals from getting transit visas. Without visas the illegals would have no alternative but to return home on the next flight.
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It would seem the Indonesians were in the dark on this particular policy.
http://www.michaelsmithnews.com/201...-rang-him-yesterday-about-the-regional-p.html
We are all in the dark on the cost. Richo from the above article in The Australian,
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Or anyone else who has rubbished the Coalition's plans for control of our borders, even - incredibly - though they have already demonstrated how to do it.
Agree. Now they are offended (again) and it will take an even bigger bucket of money to mollify them.
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