Asylum immigrants - Green Light

[sptrawler]

What about Bowens shhhh 'secret' deport policy. Apparently nobody, except those that read the "Sunday Times" have heard about it. Nearly 100 have been sent home WOW.
But we are hoping the lawyers will jump on it.LOL
Sunday Times page 26 on 11/11/2012.

 

[drsmith]

Yes, if any. I shall not be holding my breath.

No mention of any of the weekend's boats on Jason Clare's page today.

Perhap's he's busy responding to your question.

 

[noco]

THE BOAT PEOPLE'S POEM during Bob Brown's reign.

I cross ocean, one way trip,
Pay people smuggler one big tip
Green man, his name Bob Brown,
He welcomes all of us to town.
He big man in Government now I think.
He sends us off to Centrelink.
Welfare say, “You come no more,
We send cash right to your door".
Welfare cheques - they make you wealthy!
Medicare - it keep you healthy!
By and by, I get plenty money.
Thanks to you, you Aussie dummy!
Write to friends in motherland.
Tell them 'come fast as you can.. "
“Before all is changed to Abbott plan”
They come in turbans and Toyota trucks,
And buy big house with welfare bucks!
They come here, we live together.
More welfare cheques, it gets better!
Fourteen families, they moving in,
But neighbour patience wearing thin.
Finally, Aussie guy moves away.
Now I buy his house, then say,
'Find more immigrants for house to rent. "
And in the yard I put a tent.
Everything is very good,
And soon we own the neighbourhood.
We have hobby, it's called breeding.
Welfare pay for baby feeding.
Kids need dentist? Wives need pills?
We get free! We got no bills!
Australians crazy! They work all year,
To keep the welfare running here.
We think Australia darn good place.
Too darn good for Aussie race!
If they not like us, they can scram.
Lots of space in Afghanistan!

PLEASE SEND THIS EVERY Australian TAXPAYER YOU KNOW.

 

[Julia]

A couple of days ago I posted that I'd emailed my local Federal member (NAT) and the Federal government asking where all the boat arrivals are being placed, as quite obviously Christmas Island couldn't accommodate them all.
Nothing from the Federal government which is hardly surprising , but the following from the office of Paul Neville, local NAT sitting member:

Thanks for your recent email regarding illegal boat people.

Most illegal boat arrivals are taken to Christmas Island but given it is full to overflowing, with the high volume of arrivals under this Government, people are now increasingly being brought straight to the mainland. In November last year, the Government started issuing bridging visas to illegal boat arrivals before their asylum claims had been assessed. Since that decision was taken, over 15,800 people have arrived on illegal boats.

The Coalition are aware of the issues you have raised and we thank you for writing with your concerns.

Kind regards
Janelle Geddes
Office of Paul Neville MP

No wonder the boats come in increasing numbers.

 

[sptrawler]

A couple of days ago I posted that I'd emailed my local Federal member (NAT) and the Federal government asking where all the boat arrivals are being placed, as quite obviously Christmas Island couldn't accommodate them all.
Nothing from the Federal government which is hardly surprising , but the following from the office of Paul Neville, local NAT sitting member:

No wonder the boats come in increasing numbers.

It doesn't seem to matter, what poor performance the government produces, it is far outweighed by Abbotts lack of popularity.
This could be resolved if the Liberals can get Bert Newton, Nicole Kidman or Hugh Jackman to run for leadership. I would have sugested Andrew Denton, he's a smart cookie, but his height would have given Labor a free hit.

 

[drsmith]

I've been slacking off.

Another ten boats.

19/11/2012 Border Protection Command intercepts vessels
19/11/2012 Border Protection Command intercepts vessel
18/11/2012 Border Protection Command assists vessels
17/11/2012 Customs and Border Protection and AFP intercept vessel
16/11/2012 Border Protection Command intercepts vessel
15/11/2012 Border Protection Command intercepts vessel
14/11/2012 Border Protection Command intercepts vessel
13/11/2012 Border Protection Command intercepts vessel

http://www.jasonclare.com.au/media/portfolio-releases/home-affairs-and-justice-releases.html

 

[drsmith]

Stopping the boats Labor style.

Most of the current crop of queue jumpers will be getting five years on the dole and accommodation assistance thrown in.

Mr Bowen has today conceded there have been too many arrivals since August to send all asylum seekers to either Manus Island or Nauru, and some people will have to be released into the community.

"Transfers to Nauru and Manus Island will continue, however in the coming weeks and months my department will begin releasing some people who arrived by boat on or after August 13 into the community on bridging visas," he said in a statement.

"Consistent with no advantage, people from this cohort going onto bridging visas will have no work rights and will receive only basic accommodation assistance and limited financial support."

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2012-11-21/first-asylum-seekers-arrive-on-manus-island/4383876

 

[sptrawler]

Jeez doc, I heard on the radio today, 30,000 boat people since Labor took office. :1zhelp:

 

[drsmith]

Jeez doc, I heard on the radio today, 30,000 boat people since Labor took office. :1zhelp:

And more by the day.

Another two boats.

21/11/2012 Border Protection Command intercepts vessel
21/11/2012 Border Protection Command intercepts vessel

http://www.jasonclare.com.au/media/portfolio-releases/home-affairs-and-justice-releases.html

 

[Ijustnewit]

I've seen heaps of these guys out and about in community down here in the past few months. I started to think with the amount turning up they must be putting them on the mainland ( Australia ) somewhere. So put them down in Tassie and no one will kick up a fuss or take too much notice . In fact the other night I saw about 5 of them looking at a BMW parked on the side of the road for sale .. no kidding. Then in the news today this.

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2012-11-21/pontville-reopens-to-asylum-seekers/4384240?section=tas

 

[drsmith]

Labor's last stand,

The bridging visa at least lacks one sting of the old temporary protection visas under Howard - which allowed refugees eventually to be sent back home if that was considered safe.

http://www.canberratimes.com.au/opi...ward-days-is-excruciating-20121121-29qa7.html

 

[sptrawler]

I've seen heaps of these guys out and about in community down here in the past few months. I started to think with the amount turning up they must be putting them on the mainland ( Australia ) somewhere. So put them down in Tassie and no one will kick up a fuss or take too much notice . In fact the other night I saw about 5 of them looking at a BMW parked on the side of the road for sale .. no kidding. Then in the news today this.

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2012-11-21/pontville-reopens-to-asylum-seekers/4384240?section=tas

Reading that article highlights the state Tasmania is in regarding employment. The greens want the rest of Australia in the same situation.
Actually the way Labor and the Greens are going, stuffing the economy and shutting everything down.
We may have to fall back on being a world refugee processing centre, for future growth and employment.
Maybe that's the plan.LOL

 

[sptrawler]

Labor's last stand,



http://www.canberratimes.com.au/opi...ward-days-is-excruciating-20121121-29qa7.html

The social unrest that this is going to cause is going to be something to watch.
I certainly think, the refugees that are placed in the community on minimum welfare are going to be a bit pizzed off.
I think there will be a increase in employment in certain sectors of our public service.

This is turning into one hell of a mess doc. It has the potential to change the "Australian" way of life.IMO

 

[moXJO]

I don't really agree with not letting them work and forcing them on the dole. That just seems like turning what could be productive people into long term dole bludgers.

 

[drsmith]

Another boat.

22/11/2012 Border Protection Command intercepts vessel

http://www.jasonclare.com.au/media/portfolio-releases/home-affairs-and-justice-releases.html

I don't really agree with not letting them work and forcing them on the dole. That just seems like turning what could be productive people into long term dole bludgers.

The government is perhaps thinking two things here.

Firstly, their hoping it will be a winner in terms of looking like they are doing something in the eyes of the public, and, secondly, it might encourage a few more to return to their country of origin.

In reality, it's just the latest of a long list of panic measures to masage the perception of the problem in the eyes of the voting public, accompanied by the usual token noises from their back bench.

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/nat...sylum-underclass/story-fn9hm1gu-1226521816387

Labor is still not serious about restoring border protection into an orderly refugee intake. It's still wedded to ever increasing numbers of arrivals through its Green partners in government and by its own idiology. The human or economic cost is of no significance to a government that has long since reduced itself to clinging to office at any cost.

 

[Julia]

I don't really agree with not letting them work and forcing them on the dole. That just seems like turning what could be productive people into long term dole bludgers.

Yes, of course it does. But the government cannot possibly allow them to be admitted straight into the community and work. That would just provide an even greater incentive to more arrivals.

I think even just admitting them to the community with bridging visas will not be seen as a deterrent, but rather as a win for asylum seekers.
Until some of the boats are turned back, I can't see anything changing, especially when ABC Radio so sympathetically takes calls from asylum seekers at Nauru outlining their demands.

Sure, conditions are tough there. That's the whole idea. A disincentive.

Mr Abbott says he will in the next week announce further measures the Coalition would take on assuming government to take control of Australia's borders. I look forward to that.

 

[dutchie]

Mr Bowen has today conceded there have been too many arrivals since August to send all asylum seekers to either Manus Island or Nauru, and some people will have to be released into the community.

"Transfers to Nauru and Manus Island will continue, however in the coming weeks and months my department will begin releasing some people who arrived by boat on or after August 13 into the community on bridging visas," he said in a statement.

"Consistent with no advantage, people from this cohort going onto bridging visas will have no work rights and will receive only basic accommodation assistance and limited financial support."



These people will turn to criminal activities to boost their incomes.

 

[MrBurns]

These people will turn to criminal activities to boost their incomes.

Precisely.

 

[drsmith]

These people will turn to criminal activities to boost their incomes.

That doesn't bother Labor or the Greens.

For a long time this government stood by anything but Nauru. Now it's anything but the Coalition's TPV's.

 

[moXJO]

Yes, of course it does. But the government cannot possibly allow them to be admitted straight into the community and work. That would just provide an even greater incentive to more arrivals.

True, they are stuffed either way. Labor ability to tinker with policy and completely stuff it seems to be its one defining characteristic. What is worse is once labor touches it they wait till it gets so bad that it is even more difficult to fix. Labor can't run a policy successfully to completion. They have no foresight into the consequences of their policy tinkering. Imo business conditions will be the next thing completely stuffed. All the while labor cries:
'You have never had it so good'