So_Cynical
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There were earlier media reports that the destination was indeed New Zealand.
Seriously you guys - they could say their destination was Argentina, doesn't change the fact that its impossible for a refugee boat to reach NZ from Indo without crossing Aust territorial waters.
Its a bit of a worry that you insist on pursuing this fantasy.
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It might help when reading posts if you extend your attention span beyond one sentence.Seriously you guys - they could say their destination was Argentina, doesn't change the fact that its impossible for a refugee boat to reach NZ from Indo without crossing Aust territorial waters.
Its a bit of a worry that you insist on pursuing this fantasy.
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They're not getting here now unlike Labor's record of 50,000 boat arrivals, 1,200 deaths at sea, paying some $500 million for the trip and costing us $11 billion.
Prime Minister Tony Abbott and his Cabinet ministers have refused to answer questions in Parliament about whether Australian authorities paid people smugglers to take an asylum seeker boat back to Indonesia.
Crew members and passengers of a boat, which was intercepted last month, said officials gave the smugglers thousands of dollars to turn around.
Must take a lot of love to excuse things away this much. Love or hatred for the other side.
You're kidding yourself thinking you're doing your country or your people any favour by being this partisan.
Well drsmith I do believe that is the Ace on the table. Abbott, Bishop and Dutton REFUSE to answer questions about that Ex gratia "payment"
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2015-06-...bishop-dutton-refuse-discuss-payments/6547224
The Intelligence Services Act states that "a staff member or agent of an agency is not subject to any civil or criminal liability for any act done outside Australia if the act is done in the proper performance of a function of the agency"
In particular, the Australian Secret Intelligence Service (ASIS) — a supporting agency for Operation Sovereign Borders — is known to engage in the "disruption" of people smuggling syndicates.
In 2012, ASIS director-general Nick Warner confirmed the service's involvement in a rare public speech.
"ASIS has contributed intelligence and expertise leading to many significant, and unheralded, successes in recent years which have disrupted people smuggling syndicates and their operations," he said.
University of Sydney international law expert Professor Tim Stephens said the law would give agents immunity from prosecution.
"When military agencies are engaged in combat or security agencies are engaged in intelligence and other actives offshore, they are subject to certain privileges , immunities, protection under Australian law to facilitate that kind of activity," he told the ABC's 7.30 program.
The last part of that article is quiet interesting,
Not inconsistent with the above, it now also seems Labor's attack on the government over this has just blown up in its own face,
http://www.smh.com.au/federal-polit...-former-labor-government-20150615-ghotbt.html
Interestingly, after going hard for the past few days, the broader story is no longer top of the pops on the ABC.
A spokeswoman for Labor’s immigration spokesman Richard Marles said: “We never paid a people-smuggler to turn back a boat.’’
But, she said “it is unlawful for the Government or the opposition to divulge security or intelligence information’’ - the same line Labor has been attacking the Government for.
Seems like the Labor machine must have forgotten they also had their hand in the cookie jar?
http://www.news.com.au/national/lab...es-to-stop-boats/story-fncynjr2-1227399834451
Or Bill Shorten.And some more on the subject from the Australian......Labor tried to bucket the government yesterday on paying people smugglers but silence today they blown apart with hypocrisy....It has all come back to bite them on the backside.
It took a while but the ABC too is finally on the ball on that.Wouldn't that be a turnup if the payments actually happened under Labor's watch
http://www.thejakartapost.com/news/2015/06/16/australia-s-boat-payment-policy-four-years-old.html
It took a while but the ABC too is finally on the ball on that.
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2015-06-...to-say-if-labor-paid-people-smugglers/6550268
And, as Mr Shorten's face took on that green patina suggesting seasickness, there was this: "We don't know who paid what to where. When it comes to national security, there is bipartisan on that."
By which he meant no one talked about operational matters; and certainly not what ASIS might have done with great wads of secret cash when Labor was in power.
Which, he almost certainly saw by then, left him a pretext short of justification for demanding to know what the Coalition's secret operatives had been up to on the ocean.
And so the subject was allowed to sink without trace, as often happens when politicians find themselves at sea clutching at nothing more than a pot or a kettle.
If you can't find the figures on the number of boat arrivals during Labor's time in office, you're not looking hard enough. Denial isn't prevention.Apparently it cost us $450k per person per year to detain a wannabe migrant on the prison islands.
I was looking at the various dot gov dot au sites regarding the number of "illegal" boat people let into the country and allowed to stay and I'm confused at the difference between the statistical data compared to some of the posted figures here.
Can those that throwing figures around provide a valid gov link to substantiate the number please? I have tried. but maybe looking in the wrong places.
I can see the 13 thousand per annum quota for offshore processed that still occurs, the 50k illegals is eluding me
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