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Upto 700 asylum seekers from Libya drowned when ship capsized. Bringing total of drowning to 1500 so far this year. Last year 3000 drowned crossing the Mediterranean from North Africa.
http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/world/hundreds-feared-dead-after-migrant-boat-capsizes-in-mediterranean/article24018773/
Yes it's not good, much better to get people where they came from, to treat them nicely.
Rather than have to get get people in other, countries to take them in .
Why is it that the world has to accept refugees? Rather than punish the oppressor?
That even goes down to individual level, a murderer says 20 years is an excessive punishment, the victim serves eternity.
Weird, these days the more we excuse bad behaviour, the more we encourage it.
Candidly speaking, I believe the West should have left Gadaffi and Saddam Husien to run Libya and Iraq under a dictatorship instead of imposing democracy.....In fact the West should have stayed out of the middle East altogether....Let the Shiites, the Sunnis and the Kurds sort out their own problems...Dictatorship works better in those countries.
Maybe there would not have been so many drownings in the Mediterranean.
I am not so sure about Bin Laddin.
Candidly speaking, I believe the West should have left Gadaffi and Saddam Husien to run Libya and Iraq under a dictatorship instead of imposing democracy.....In fact the West should have stayed out of the middle East altogether....Let the Shiites, the Sunnis and the Kurds sort out their own problems...Dictatorship works better in those countries.
Maybe there would not have been so many drownings in the Mediterranean.
I am not so sure about Bin Laddin.
The West was quite happy to let Gaddafi and Hussein run Libya and Iraq as long as they (we) got the oil.
The West had little role in the overthrow of Gaddafi. Saddam bought about his own downfall when he attacked Kuwait thereby threatening Western oil supplies.
What the West should not have done in the first place was sell weapons to ME countries, but instead should have imposed a blockade so that other countries could not get weapons in either. The excess of weapons in the area is the reason that there are so many troubles.
The West was quite happy to let Gaddafi and Hussein run Libya and Iraq as long as they (we) got the oil.
The West had little role in the overthrow of Gaddafi. Saddam bought about his own downfall when he attacked Kuwait thereby threatening Western oil supplies.
What the West should not have done in the first place was sell weapons to ME countries, but instead should have imposed a blockade so that other countries could not get weapons in either. The excess of weapons in the area is the reason that there are so many troubles.
Senator Hanson-Young said she was not convinced lives were being saved by the Government's policy to "turn back the boats".
"We may not see the drowning, we may not see the gravestones, but that's simply because we've pushed it elsewhere," she said.
Another OK from the child senator on an immigration policy platform that drowns people,
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2015-04-20/government-criticised-over-boat-secrecy/6404950
She later told ABC: "The minister is torturing this little child and I don't use those words lightly. We know that the detention has caused these issues for her. Her mental health has deteriorated."
Mr Dutton responded with venom.
"That's a repugnant statement, even beneath Sarah Hanson-Young, particularly given that 1200 people died at sea while the Greens were in government with Labor."
SOME 3,427 migrants have been rescued in the Mediterranean Sea off the Libyan coast, officials say.
THE Italian coastguard reported on Sunday that a total of 16 ships had been involved in several different rescue operations by its coast guard and navy on Saturday.
"It [turning back boats] will never be in the party platform, but the platform needs to be broad enough for it to be able to happen. Hopefully, we never have to do it."
MY BLOODY OATH!
Below is a letter passed onto me by another "True Blue Aussie".
After you have read the letter and say "My Bloody Oath" then you are truly an Australian.
Letter to the Editor and every Australian, by the True Blue Aussie.
So many letter writers have explained how this land is made up of immigrants.
Maybe we should turn to our history books and point out to people why today's Australian is not willing to accept the new kind of immigrant any longer.
Back in 1900 (after federation) when there was a rush from all areas of Europe to come to Australia, people had to get off a ship and stand in a long line in Sydney, Melbourne, Adelaide, Perth and be documented.
Some would even get down on their hands and knees and kiss the ground.
They made a pledge to uphold the laws and support their new country in good and bad times.
They made learning English a primary rule in their new Australian households and some even changed their names to blend in with their new home.
They had waved good bye to their birth place to give their children a new life and did everything in their power to help their children assimilate into one culture.
Nothing was handed to them. No free lunches, no welfare, no labour laws to protect them. All they had were the skills, craftsmanship and desire they had brought with them to trade for a future of prosperity.
Most of their children came of age when World War II broke out.
Australians fought alongside men whose parents had come straight over from Germany, Italy, France, Japan, Czechoslovakia, Russia, Sweden, Poland and so many other places.
None of these first generation Australians ever gave any thought about what country their parents had come from.
They were Australians fighting Hitler, Mussolini and the Emperor of Japan. They were defending the Freedom as one people.
When we liberated France, no-one in those villages was looking for the Ukrainian-Australian or the German-Australian or the Irish-Australian.
The people of France saw only Australians. And we carried one flag that represented our country.
Not one of those immigrant sons would have thought about picking up another country's flag and waving it to represent who they were.
It would have been a disgrace to their parents who had sacrificed so much to be here. These immigrants truly knew what it meant to be an Australian.
Here we are in 2015 with a new kind of immigrant who wants the same rights and privileges, but not to learn or speak English. They want to achieve it by playing with a different set of rules, one that includes an Australian passport and a guarantee of being faithful to their mother country.
That's not what being an Australian is all about.
Australians have been very open-hearted and open-minded regarding immigrants, whether they were fleeing poverty, dictatorship, persecution, or whatever else makes us think of those aforementioned immigrants who truly did ADOPT our country, our flag, our morals and our customs, and left their wars, hatred, and divisions behind.
I believe that the immigrants who landed in Australia in the early 1900s deserve better than that for the toil, hard work and sacrifice.
I think they would be appalled that they are being used as an example by those waving foreign country flags, fighting foreign battles on our soil, making Australians change to suit their religions and cultures, and wanting to change our country's fabric by claiming discrimination when we do not give in to their demands.
It's about time we get real and stand up for our forefathers rights, we are AUSTRALIANS!
Lest we forget it!!!
NO MORE POLITICAL CORRECTNESS. NO MORE not saying CHRISTMAS in our stores and in our schools. I eat pork, I drink beer and I want my Australia back!
Hope this letter is read by millions of people all across Australia and Aussies living overseas.
PS Please pass this on to everyone you know to help ensure our country is not taken over by radical non-Australians!!!
KEEP THIS LETTER MOVING!!
Another rally cry from the chain mail brigadeWho gave these people a tin star to uphold the social conscience of Australia? Apparently we even won the war in France ...go figure
I too lament the good old days when we had good old fashioned British disdain and hatred for anything darker than a whiter shade of pale. When we freely called wogs wops and dagos, when abos where good at asking for a shilling and a Rothmans' Pilter, when takeaway food was fish and chips sometimes gentrified with vinegar, when a singlet wearing real man could keep the trouble and strife in tow by threats of violence, when women themselves were seconds to men, there is just so much of a good thing that has been taken away because of these unwelcomed migrants ... we should have stuck with the turn style that only allowed the bog Oirish and the Londeners in, and of course the Scots for their shop steward prowess.
Don't get too carried away gentlemen.
Just because I haven't posted for a while doesn't mean I'm not watching.
What's also interesting in relation to that is this,Doc, I found this article interesting, apparently everyone else has been turning the boats back.
And we were told Abbott was the only one doing it.
Shows, not everything you read, is fact.
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2015-05-...ns-hold-crisis-meeting-over-migration/6482426
The sudden crackdown on Bay of Bengal illegal migrants by Thai authorities 20 days ago stopped dead the people-smuggling boats leaving Bangladesh and Myanmar.
In the first three months of this year, people traffickers were moving 25,000 people through the Bay of Bengal towards Thailand and Malaysia, the UN’s refugee agency estimated.
“Since May 1, there’s no more boats leaving,” said a refugees relief agency official in Bangkok. “A $US250 million industry has been interrupted.”
The Thai Navy for a decade has been quietly pushing boatloads of Rohingya asylum-seekers away from the Andaman coast, often with acute brutality, but recently with additional fuel, food and water and a benign wave towards Malaysia.
The Thais call this “helping them on”.
Southern Thailand is also the hub of a cruel trade in illegal migrants, transiting illegal work-seekers and refugees from origin countries to Malaysia…
At the same time, the Malaysians made clear they would accept no more Rohingyas as asylum-seekers ”” more than 45,000 are registered as refugees and asylum-seekers. There is another 12,300 Myanmarese Muslims of other ethnicities.
What's also interesting in relation to that is this,
http://blogs.news.com.au/dailyteleg...m_1200_deaths_and_the_high_risk_of_terrorism/
The full article from The Australian is behind a pay wall.
My bolds.
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