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drsmith said:
At least you've considered a solution which is more than can be said of some of the other critics of present policy who contribute to this thread.

A western would standard education would in itself be a enough of a product for people smugglers to sell and would also encourage separation of families (children first, parents later).

There's no easy solutions to this and without a universal approach, a product remains available for people smugglers to pedal.
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The final result is still offshore settlement with no ability to remain in Australia or for family reunion in Australia. If you don't want them setting foot in this country at all, then the children could be released and educated in the country where they are being processed.
 
SirRumpole said:
The final result is still offshore settlement with no ability to remain in Australia or for family reunion in Australia. If you don't want them setting foot in this country at all, then the children could be released and educated in the country where they are being processed.
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It's not a question of what I want, it's a question of not giving people smugglers a product to sell.

You are at least in favour of offshore processing and resettlement however I'm not sure exactly what you mean by releasing them in that context.
 
drsmith said:
It's not a question of what I want, it's a question of not giving people smugglers a product to sell.

You are at least in favour of offshore processing and resettlement however I'm not sure exactly what you mean by releasing them in that context.
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How about letting them go to school with other kids, even if you have to bus them in and out of the detention centre every day.
 
SirRumpole said:
The final result is still offshore settlement with no ability to remain in Australia or for family reunion in Australia. If you don't want them setting foot in this country at all, then the children could be released and educated in the country where they are being processed.
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Yes at least they might absorb a national identity as opposed to personae non gratae and all the misery that goes with it.

My fear is the nursery of future Oz haters we are incubating.
 
Whether it's a sole windsurfer, a boat of 4 or a boat of many more, Labor continues to bat for illegal people smuggling,

AUSTRALIAN authorities stopped an asylum-seeker boat west of Christmas Island more than 10 days ago and gave four Sri Lankans back to their government in a swift high-seas transfer.

Labor was quick to attack the move, questioning how thoroughly the refugee claims of the asylum-seekers were assessed, given that the process took place very quickly and on water....

The opposition’s immigration spokesman, Richard Marles, said the government needed to provide an assurance Australia was meeting international obligations and that people were not returned to a situation where they faced harm.

“We also have concerns about the fairness and thoroughness of the assessment of asylum-seeker claims made while at sea,” he said.
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http://blogs.news.com.au/dailyteleg...aph/comments/labor_gets_even_weaker_on_boats/
 
You either become a TRUE BLUE AUSSIE or bugger off.


Below is a letter passed onto me by another "True Blue Aussie".


After you have read the letter and say "My Bloody Oath" than you are truly an Australian.


Letter to the Editor and every Australian, by the True Blue Aussie.


So many letter writers have explained how this land is made up of immigrants.
Maybe we should turn to our history books and point out to people why today's Australian is not willing to accept the new kind of immigrant any longer.


Back in 1900 (after federation) when there was a rush from all areas of Europe to come to Australia, people had to get off a ship and stand in a long line in Sydney, Melbourne, Adelaide, Perth and be documented.


Some would even get down on their hands and knees and kiss the ground.


They made a pledge to uphold the laws and support their new country in good and bad times.


They made learning English a primary rule in their new Australian households and some even changed their names to blend in with their new home.


They had waved good bye to their birth place to give their children a new life and did everything in their power to help their children assimilate into one culture.


Nothing was handed to them. No free lunches, no welfare, no labour laws to protect them. All they had were the skills, craftsmanship and desire they had brought with them to trade for a future of prosperity.


Most of their children came of age when World War II broke out.


Australians fought alongside men whose parents had come straight over from Germany, Italy, France, Japan, Czechoslovakia, Russia, Sweden, Poland and so any other places.


None of these first generation Australians ever gave any thought about what country their parents had come from.


They were Australians fighting Hitler, Mussolini and the Emperor of Japan.


They were defending the Freedom as one people.


When we liberated France, no-one in those villages was looking for the Ukrainian-Australian or the German-Australian or the Irish-Australian.


The people of France saw only Australians. And we carried one flag that represented our country.


Not one of those immigrant sons would have thought about picking up another country's flag and waving it to represent who they were.


It would have been a disgrace to their parents who had sacrificed so much to be here. These immigrants truly knew what it meant to be an Australian.


Here we are in 2015 with a new kind of immigrant who wants the same rights and privileges, but not to learn or speak English. They want to achieve it by playing with a different set of rules, one that includes an Australian passport and a guarantee of being faithful to their mother country.


That's not what being an Australian is all about.


Australians have been very open-hearted and open-minded regarding immigrants, whether they were fleeing poverty, dictatorship, persecution, or whatever else makes us think of those aforementioned immigrants who truly did ADOPT our country, our flag, our morals and our customs, and left their wars, hatred, and divisions behind.


I believe that the immigrants who landed in Australia in the early 1900s deserve better than that for the toil, hard work and sacrifice.


I think they would be appalled that they are being used as an example by those waving foreign country flags, fighting foreign battles on our soil, making Australians change to suit their religions and cultures, and wanting to change our country's fabric by claiming discrimination when we do not give in to their demands.


It's about time we get real and stand up for our forefathers rights, we are AUSTRALIANS!


Lest we forget it!!!


NO MORE POLITICAL CORRECTNESS. NO MORE not saying CHRISTMAS in our stores and in our schools. I eat pork, I drink beer and I want my Australia back!


Hope this letter is read by millions of people all across Australia and Aussies living overseas.


P. S. -- Please pass this on to everyone you know to help ensure our country is not taken over by radical non-Australians !!!




KEEP THIS LETTER MOVING !!

 
noco said:
Please pass this on to everyone you know to help ensure our country is not taken over by radical non-Australians!!!
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How will this letter help?
What is anyone who receives this letter going to do about the problem?

The first thing they ought to do is help make sure that Labor/Greens don't get to be in charge of border control again.
 
Bintang said:
How will this letter help?
What is anyone who receives this letter going to do about the problem?

The first thing they ought to do is help make sure that Labor/Greens don't get to be in charge of border control again.
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How true...how very true.

Shorten has made it clear, he will not turn back the boats which means another flood of illegals.

I watched some of Gillian Trigg's interview this morning on ABC where she showed a graph of how Green/Labor party dealt with boat people in less than 3 months compared with the the current government of 6 months or more.

Now let us look at the two comparisons......The Green/Labor left wing socialists let these illegals in without thorough checks because the detention centers were full to overflowing..the process was ad hoc to say the least.....It did not matter to the Green/Labor Party that these people had no ID....just let them into the community to releave the pressure on the detention centers and hope for the best....it has been a proven fact that some of these illegals are terrorists.....I have always stated that if one in 1000 was a terrorist that is one too many. There are currently 400 under surveillance.

Under the Liberal Government the process is far more thorough and many have been found not be genuine refugees and have either been sent back to their country, gone voluntarily or are being settled in PNG or Cambodia....Children in detention was down to 123 as of 16th February....Under Labor some 2000 kids were held in detention and over 1200 drowned at sea including children....Triggs has no right to be criticizing the current government when in 2007 there were none in detention.

So once again Gillian Trigg has given some false information to suit the Green/Labor left wing socialists.
...Trigg is a manipulator.
 
Bintang said:
So you think what happens on Manus Island is child abuse?

Four Christian children were beheaded by ISIS militants in Iraq for refusing to denounce Jesus and convert to Islam.
http://www.foxnews.com/world/2014/1...n-kids-for-refusing-to-denounce-jesus-church/

Has Triggs said anything about this? Perhaps the ABC should ask her a question about it?
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I think you're right bintang: Triggs endorses the beheading of children by ISIS. I can't understand why the Senators didn't press her on this point.

Yes I think that what was done to children in detention amounts in many, many cases to child abuse.
 
banco said:
I think you're right bintang: Triggs endorses the beheading of children by ISIS. I can't understand why the Senators didn't press her on this point.

Yes I think that what was done to children in detention amounts in many, many cases to child abuse.
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Your sarcasm falls short of being witty and is just flawed thinking.
Of course, if asked the question, Triggs would not endorse the beheading of children by ISIS but after answering the question she would go back to condemning soft targets such as the Abbott Government rather than use her energy to condemn a hard target like ISIS.
 
Bintang said:
Your sarcasm falls short of being witty and is just flawed thinking.
Of course, if asked the question, Triggs would not endorse the beheading of children by ISIS but after answering the question she would go back to condemning soft targets such as the Abbott Government rather than use her energy to condemn a hard target like ISIS.
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I know you are not very bright but she is the Australian Human Rights Commissioner. But you're right that criticizing ISIS would be a very bold stand to take for an Australian public servant and would have a really big impact.
 

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