Julia
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Do you ever actually read what other members write? Bunyip has stated many times, including very recently on this thread, that he has no belief in any religion. And he has elaborated on this to emphasise his belief that it absolutely does not take any sort of religious influence to be a good and decent person.Let say you're a Catholic. Are all your actions based on the teachings of the Bible and Jesus Christ? Or the Pope?
Do you ever actually read what other members write? Bunyip has stated many times, including very recently on this thread, that he has no belief in any religion. And he has elaborated on this to emphasise his belief that it absolutely does not take any sort of religious influence to be a good and decent person.
You say that you 'flesh out' what others have said. In reality you frequently draw conclusions which in no way represent what that person has said.
But to think that Islam is tyrannical, harsh and unforgiving while other religion are more enlightened... that's not really thinking at all. That's those feelings in the gut one feels after having digested propaganda and opinions masquerading as News.
Do people really need to defend an entire religion, an entire people now? This day and age, in Australia?
When it comes to any country managing asylum policy, it doesn't matter if they're Muslim or from Mars. This is not an issue of religion.
Every sovereign nation has a responsibility to ensure it is in control of its immigration intake and not outsourcing it to illegal people smuggling operations whether it be for politically ideological purposes and/or misplaced compassion. We currently have a government in Australia that understands that while Europe will learn the hard way.
It's only from that position of control that a nation can reasonably discuss the volume and nature of asylum intake.
Ayatollah Khomeini was clearly one of those people who does not really think because he said:
“Those who study Islamic Holy War will understand why Islam wants to conquer the whole world. Those who know nothing of Islam pretend that Islam counsels against war. Those who say this are witless”
Yes they do because Islam is not a religion it is an ideology and we are being deceived.
Have you paused to consider that those drowning in the hands of illegal people smuggling operations are your punching bag ?So Europe is suffering and going broke because of (Muslim) refugees?
Khomeini? He's a lightweight. Give us one or two from bin Laden. We all know he's the embodiment of Islam.
Trust me, if you know anything about history... any religion that counsels against war or conquest, that forbid conversion of infidels or ban taxation... they're either ignored or considered a crazy cult.
So what do you suggest we do with the Muslim Australians? Set up a couple of camps in the outback? I guess they'll feel more at home since they either just came from a desert environment or their ancestors did.
Khomeini? He's a lightweight. Give us one or two from bin Laden. We all know he's the embodiment of Islam.
Do you actually know anything about Islam?Trust me, if you know anything about history... any religion that counsels against war or conquest, that forbid conversion of infidels or ban taxation... they're either ignored or considered a crazy cult.
So what do you suggest we do with the Muslim Australians? Set up a couple of camps in the outback? I guess they'll feel more at home since they either just came from a desert environment or their ancestors did.
Have you paused to consider that those drowning in the hands of illegal people smuggling operations are your punching bag ?
That's regardless of religion.
So hearing the truth one time is not enough for you. There are none so blind ……… or perhaps I should re-phrase …. there are none so witless …..
Do you actually know anything about Islam?
Your idea so I will not disagree. But better still don’t allow them into the country in the first place.
Don't take my defense of Islam and Muslims as though I somehow believe it's saintly and all Muslims are good people. I just see them as people, like us... is that too much to consider? Too naive for you? Too witless?
There isn't many other religions, that have people blowing themselves up and their fellow believers, to prove a point.
That no one else understands.?
Even the guy in the Sydney hostage drama, what did it do other than to segregate muslims?
What was he trying to achieve, other than sadness to a few people?
Two weeks later, all people remember is 'Islamic nutter', how that is meant to further their cause is beyond me.
Do yourself a favour and dig deeper.I know the basic history/founding, read a few snippets and found it's just like any religion.
Yes and Yes.Do you know Islam? Or met any Muslim?
Don't take my defense of Islam and Muslims as though I somehow believe it's saintly and all Muslims are good people. I just see them as people, like us... is that too much to consider? Too naive for you? Too witless?
Are Muslims like us? We tolerate their idiosyncratic behaviour, they don't tolerate ours.
They move to new countries with different cultures, yet cause chaos and destruction, in the adopted countries.
England and Australia don't have the death penalty, because they feel it is an act of intolerance and lack of sympathy.
Yet muslims walk in the streets of England and Australia, with banners calling for the death of infidels? Blow themselves up for some religious calling, that no one here really wants or called for.
It leads to the question, why don't they fffff off? If they don't like our country.
Better still why did they come here in the first place?
Do yourself a favour and dig deeper.
Yes and Yes.
I also lived in a Muslim country for many years but that is the limit of what I am prepared to reveal on this forum.
Having a desire to think well of people is neither naïve nor witless. But allowing yourself to be fooled into thinking that Islam is a religion of peace is both naïve and witless.
So you know Muslim, lived in a Muslim country, and you're still in one piece.
Did you only go out at night or something?
I have a pretty low opinion of people in general, does not like any religion... just I'm an equal opportunity guy and so think all are the same regardless race or religion or gender... Though I'm open to genuine kindness and intelligence when I see them - which I've seen many, but not that much.
Muslims have been in Australia for how long? Some been here for hundred or so years; most at least a few decades... and some recent refugee arrivals.
Do you ever actually read what other members write? Bunyip has stated many times, including very recently on this thread, that he has no belief in any religion. And he has elaborated on this to emphasise his belief that it absolutely does not take any sort of religious influence to be a good and decent person.
You say that you 'flesh out' what others have said. In reality you frequently draw conclusions which in no way represent what that person has said.
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