Asylum immigrants - Green Light

[noco]

Well the reason for that is simple, bunyip, Labor didn't want to fix it. They were quite happy, with thousands of probable factory foder/ welfare recipients, flooding in, it bolsters Labors voter base.

The main reason Gillard and Rudd allowed illegal immigrants in to Australia was to create division and dissension in the community.

http://www.restoreaustralia.org.au/fabians-and-pm-gillard/

They have opened the doors to illegal invaders who are bringing in a religion that goes totally against our way of life. They are using Islam to create divisions in our society and turn citizen against citizen. At the same time, they have neglected our own needy; our aged and veterans, the very citizens who have contributed so much to our country and who should now be enjoying the fruits of their labour. Instead, they are living on the brink of poverty.

 

[SirRumpole]

our aged and veterans, the very citizens who have contributed so much to our country and who should now be enjoying the fruits of their labour. Instead, they are living on the brink of poverty.

Made worse by the proposed co-payment from none other than the pensioners friend, Tony Abbott.

But then didn't you say noco that everyone who received a $900 cheque from the Rudd government should now pay it back ?

There goes a pensioners power bill payment for the year.

 

[noco]

Made worse by the proposed co-payment from none other than the pensioners friend, Tony Abbott.

But then didn't you say noco that everyone who received a $900 cheque from the Rudd government should now pay it back ?

There goes a pensioners power bill payment for the year.

Can't wait for Labor to get back in.......we might get $1800 next time.

The co payment has not gone through as far I know.....so what are raving on about?

 

[Julia]

Made worse by the proposed co-payment from none other than the pensioners friend, Tony Abbott.

But then didn't you say noco that everyone who received a $900 cheque from the Rudd government should now pay it back ?

There goes a pensioners power bill payment for the year.

What? Co-payment is capped at $70 p.a.
How many people only pay that for power for the year????

Maybe one coffee and a bun at the RSL less per year.

 

[SirRumpole]

What? Co-payment is capped at $70 p.a.
How many people only pay that for power for the year????

Maybe one coffee and a bun at the RSL less per year.

The power bill reference was in relation to noco's suggestion that people pay back the $900 they got under Rudd, not the co-payment.

 

[noco]

Made worse by the proposed co-payment from none other than the pensioners friend, Tony Abbott.

But then didn't you say noco that everyone who received a $900 cheque from the Rudd government should now pay it back ?

There goes a pensioners power bill payment for the year.

We are having to pay back the $900 through the government who has to find the money from tax payers to pay off Labor debt....so we are paying it back indirectly......don't you get it?......or are you trying twist things around in your usual fashion.

 

[sptrawler]

The main reason Gillard and Rudd allowed illegal immigrants in to Australia was to create division and dissension in the community.

http://www.restoreaustralia.org.au/fabians-and-pm-gillard/

They have opened the doors to illegal invaders who are bringing in a religion that goes totally against our way of life. They are using Islam to create divisions in our society and turn citizen against citizen. At the same time, they have neglected our own needy; our aged and veterans, the very citizens who have contributed so much to our country and who should now be enjoying the fruits of their labour. Instead, they are living on the brink of poverty.

I don't agree with that, where the asylum seekers came from or what their religion, I feel was secondry.
The primary reasoning would have been to placate the Greens and it also fitted with there agenda to increase the population.
Bringing in refugees, would have a natural downward pressure on wages and free up the labour market, to feed the resources boom.
Also like Sydney, when you have a large concentrated population, it generates its own economy.
Unlike the smaller cities, which are very cyclical, the problem with that theory, is the pain in the transition hurts the residents.
Well that's my take on it.

 

[SirRumpole]

We are having to pay back the $900 through the government who has to find the money from tax payers to pay off Labor debt....so we are paying it back indirectly......don't you get it?......or are you trying twist things around in your usual fashion.

No, you don't get it. You keep quoting red neck web sites that waffle on about doing more for the elderly and then praise the Abbott government for kicking old people in the backside.

 

[sptrawler]

No, you don't get it. You keep quoting red neck web sites that waffle on about doing more for the elderly and then praise the Abbott government for kicking old people in the backside.

Can't wait to read your posts in three years time. I've got a great memory.

 

[Julia]

No, you don't get it. You keep quoting red neck web sites that waffle on about doing more for the elderly and then praise the Abbott government for kicking old people in the backside.

How are old people being kicked in the backside? The only thing that is proposed to change for them is a slight change in the way the pension is indexed, no cuts, continuing increases every few months.

If that doesn't suit, then more people might be motivated to become self funded.

The whining is just endless.
Everyone wants a successful, positive economy, but no one is prepared to pay even the smallest share to that end.
Pretty disgusting. Just endless, gimme, gimme.

 

[sptrawler]

How are old people being kicked in the backside? The only thing that is proposed to change for them is a slight change in the way the pension is indexed, no cuts, continuing increases every few months.

If that doesn't suit, then more people might be motivated to become self funded.

The whining is just endless.
Everyone wants a successful, positive economy, but no one is prepared to pay even the smallest share to that end.
Pretty disgusting. Just endless, gimme, gimme.

Yes, it will be interesting when the extra taxing has to be applied.

Some who have been screaming, may be screaming, it will be interesting.

If Syd's land tax comes in, those with rental properties will be hit.

If SMSF are hit by limits on withdrawls, and removal of franking credits.

In order to pay for degrees in advanced pottery, or indexed pensions at above cpi.

It will then be intersting, to hear the rusted on loonies.

Just looked at the thread heading, completely off topic, appologies.

 

[noco]

Can't wait to read your posts in three years time. I've got a great memory.

Me too.

 

[SirRumpole]

How are old people being kicked in the backside? The only thing that is proposed to change for them is a slight change in the way the pension is indexed, no cuts, continuing increases every few months.

If that doesn't suit, then more people might be motivated to become self funded.

The whining is just endless.
Everyone wants a successful, positive economy, but no one is prepared to pay even the smallest share to that end.
Pretty disgusting. Just endless, gimme, gimme.

No cuts ?

ABOUT 530,000 pensioners will be worse off as a result of Tony Abbott’s decision to cut deeming rate thresholds, according to the Department of Social Services.

Asked in estimates hearings by Labor senators how many Australian pensioners would be moved on to a lower part-pension as a result of the changes to the deeming rate thresholds, the *department’s Ian Joyce said: “We estimate that 530,000 customers would have a reduction in payment.”

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/nat...30000-pensioners/story-fn59niix-1227110191593

Yes, you are right.

Disgusting.

Are you prepared to pay more tax Julia ?

If so I think that is a fairer way to reduce the deficit than hitting OAP's.

And I have heard you comment quite often that this budget is unfair, so please give us your idea of what a fair budget is.

 

[sptrawler]

No cuts ?



Yes, you are right.

Disgusting.

Are you prepared to pay more tax Julia ?

If so I think that is a fairer way to reduce the deficit than hitting OAP's.

And I have heard you comment quite often that this budget is unfair, so please give us your idea of what a fair budget is.

You're talking about deeming rates affecting pensions as disgusting.

Then in the next breath, your saying that the family home should be included in the pension assetts test.

What the hell is going on, with you lefties?

Let's be honest, you hate people who have made it and you hope you don't fall into that catergory.lol
Best of luck with your balancing act.

 

[SirRumpole]

Then in the next breath, your saying that the family home should be included in the pension assetts test.

Where did I say that ?

 

[noco]

No doubt many ASF members would have watched the 7.30 report last night......if you missed it, here is a repeat via the link below.

How on earth the Green/Labor party could ever be proud of the trauma they put our sailors through is beyond comprehension....The Green/Labor party have scarred the minds of those sailors for life and not forgetting the loss of some 1200 known lives lost through the stupidity of opening our borders to people smugglers....How many unknown lives were lost thanks to the Green/Labor party?...we will never know.

The cost to the Australian economy is something like $13 billion and climbing and it is all on the Rudd/Gillard/Rudd credit card left for the Abbott Government to pay back.

What a crummy lot we had 2007/2013....SHAM...SHAM...SHAM.







http://www.abc.net.au/7.30/content/2014/s4140849.htm

 

[SirRumpole]

No doubt many ASF members would have watched the 7.30 report last night......if you missed it, here is a repeat via the link below.

How on earth the Green/Labor party could ever be proud of the trauma they put our sailors through is beyond comprehension....The Green/Labor party have scarred the minds of those sailors for life and not forgetting the loss of some 1200 known lives lost through the stupidity of opening our borders to people smugglers....How many unknown lives were lost thanks to the Green/Labor party?...we will never know.

The cost to the Australian economy is something like $13 billion and climbing and it is all on the Rudd/Gillard/Rudd credit card left for the Abbott Government to pay back.

What a crummy lot we had 2007/2013....SHAM...SHAM...SHAM.
http://www.abc.net.au/7.30/content/2014/s4140849.htm

The Rudd-Gillard governments stuffed up the handling of the asylum seeker issue, no doubt about it, mainly imo due to their rejection of temporary protection visas. Permanent residency was the sugar on the table that enticed many asylum seekers to come here.

If they knew that their efforts would only have got them a temporary stay then they would think again if getting here was worth the trouble. Labor and the bleeding heart Greens never saw that, hence the mess.

 

[drsmith]

The latest OSB report for November has no boats or arrivals by boat.

http://newsroom.customs.gov.au/chan...eleases/monthly-operational-update-november-2

The recent turn back to Sri Lanka from which one asylum seeker will be sent to an offshore processing centre must be going to appear in December's report.

 

[SirRumpole]

Congratulations to Scott Morrison for getting TPV's reinstated.

IMO it's the best solution to a very difficult problem, and I certainly hope Labor doesn't reverse them when they get back.

 

[IFocus]

Congratulations to Scott Morrison for getting TPV's reinstated.

IMO it's the best solution to a very difficult problem, and I certainly hope Labor doesn't reverse them when they get back.


The TPV's are the minor part the rest is Nazi Party landscape

Senate gives Scott Morrison unchecked control over asylum seekers’ lives

The passage of the migration and maritime powers legislation amendment (resolving the asylum legacy caseload) bill 2014 has given the immigration minister, while he holds that job, unprecedented, unchallengeable, and secret powers to control the lives of asylum seekers.

Previous immigration ministers have decried the burden and the caprice of “playing God” with asylum seekers’ lives, but the government has chosen, instead, to install even greater powers in the office of the minister.

With the Senate’s acquiescence, Scott Morrison has won untrammelled power.

No other minister, not the prime minister, not the foreign minister, not the attorney-general, has the same unchecked control over the lives of other people.

http://www.theguardian.com/australi...n-unchecked-control-over-asylum-seekers-lives