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Governments and political parties go wrong when there idiological beliefs become inconsistent with the well being of the people they represent.In the end, their actions are as they are, the effects of those actions indicate their motives, the origin of those motives are a secondary question.
I don't think they are that insidious. I think they are just inept and reactionary and are kowtowing on too many fronts.In the case of Federal Labor, their primary idiological belief is power at any cost.
I don't think they are that insidious. I think they are just inept and reactionary and are kowtowing on too many fronts.
...In the case of Federal Labor, their primary idiological belief is power at any cost....
Agree about them being reactionary (usually to polls) and having to kowtow to too many interest groups.I don't think they are that insidious. I think they are just inept and reactionary and are kowtowing on too many fronts.
...Sails, it was only a month ago that the Libs polled 72% for the same question. I'd be surprised if any political party didn't poll high on that question.
Power at any cost in the context of our political environment.Julia, malignant may have been a better choice of words. To have your primary political ideology being power at any cost places you in the realms of Gaddafi, Amin, Mugabe, Pinochet e.t.c. Labor doesn't fit this bill.
Meanwhile, in East Timor......
http://www.smh.com.au/national/east...l-talks-on-refugee-centre-20110428-1dynq.html
Well, that's pretty clear. Where do the government go from here?Meanwhile, in East Timor......
http://www.smh.com.au/national/east...l-talks-on-refugee-centre-20110428-1dynq.html
The ABC has confirmed that the Federal Government is seeking to have the Manus Island offshore processing centre in Papua New Guinea re-opened.
In a reaction to the polls, Labor is beginning to adopt Liberal policies to attempt to defuse the rise in Liberal popularity and impending electoral defeat. It's very similar to the Liberals absorbing the One Nation voters by stealing their polices. She is getting scared.Looks like the government is finally, finally going to do something about it, albeit a couple of years too late. Manus Island is small, so the government might still need Nauru until word gets around that they won't be coming directly to Australia. But at least this seems a step in the right direction and let's hope it is stitched up quickly:
Full article from ABC: PNG confirms talks to reopen Manus Island detention centre
Full story here from the HeraldSun: Refugee phone bills paid by usOpposition immigration spokesman Scott Morrison described the refusal to detail the cost as a joke.
"Labor's refusal to disclose the cost of their open-ended policy for taxpayer-funded phone calls by detainees is typical of a government that has grown insensitive to the blowout in asylum-seeker costs that now stands at $3 billion on their watch," Mr Morrison said.
http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2011/06/02/3234280.htm?section=justinPrime Minister Julia Gillard has staked a large part of her political future on achieving the Malaysia agreement.
Her announcement in early May that Australia would swap refugees with Malaysia set off a flurry of diplomatic talks and meetings.
But the documents obtained by Lateline show how difficult it will be to achieve an agreement and how hard Malaysia is pushing.
The draft agreement includes amendments made by Malaysia on Monday last week, including that Malaysia wants to decide which asylum seekers it accepts.
"The following persons shall not be transferred to Malaysia for processing," the document said.
"Persons who the Malaysian authorities do not provide consent or approval for the transfer."
And Malaysia wants Australia to cover nearly all costs of the refugee swap, including transport, education, health, housing, resettling costs as well as the relocation of asylum seekers to third countries.
"Where the Transferee do (sic) not agree to return to their country of origin, voluntarily forced returns may be necessary. In this event, the Government of Australia will be fully responsible to accept and ensure voluntarily forced returns," the document said.
Malaysia is also insisting on sending 4,000 refugees to Australia regardless of how many asylum seekers it takes in return.
"This number of illegal immigrants in Malaysia who have been officially issued with the UNHCR card will be resettled even if the Government of Australia does not seek to transfer the total 800," the document said.
The draft agreement also reveals that Malaysia has removed all reference to human rights in the revised document and does not want the UN Refugee Convention to cover its side of the deal.
"The treatment of the Transferee while in Malaysia will be in accordance with the Malaysian laws, rules, regulations and national policies," the document said.
Refugee and Immigration Legal centre coordinator David Manne says the documents expose Malaysia's reluctance to commit to human rights.
"What the document shows is that there is a real reluctance by Malaysia to commit to a clear inclusion of human rights standards and guarantees," he said.
"For example, in the document refugees are referred to as illegal immigrants. There's no reference to the word asylum seeker. There's certainly no reference to human rights."
The deal also relies on the participation of the United Nations High Commission on Refugees (UNHCR), which will process the asylum seekers.
But the UNHCR is concerned that Malaysia is not a signatory to the UN Convention on Refugees and has a reputation for treating asylum seekers harshly.
They live in cramped conditions and police routinely arrest them for working illegally.
Lateline has obtained a series of internal emails from the UNHCR that shed light on the negotiations.
From these emails, it is revealed why there is no reference to human rights in this draft of the agreement - Malaysia removed it.
In one email, Alan Vernon, the UNHCR's representative in Kuala Lumpur, outlines the changes made.
"The Malaysian text removes the standards of treatments contained in the earlier versions with language stating the transferees will be treated in accordance with Malaysian laws, rules, regulations and national police," the email said.
"Other changes include that Malaysians would clear the list of transferees [and the] removal of the reference of human rights in the introduction."
All is not well with Labor's proposed refugee swap with Malaysia.
http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2011/06/02/3234280.htm?section=justin
A glimmer of hope is that this government is looking like idiots to a growing majority.What infuriates me most about the planned agreement with Malaysia is that Australia is made to look like idiots, just to save face for the Labor party.
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