Asylum immigrants - Green Light

[noco]

Why do asylum seekers receive free dental care and free travel on trains and buses, when struggling pensioners have to pay. What's next? Free grog!!!!!!!!!!!! How about a fair go for all Australians.

This makes me puk.


http://blogs.news.com.au/couriermai...only_aborigines_and_boat_people_treated_free/

 

[sails]

Here's an interesting graph from the Herald Sun - it doesn't appear to include arrivals so far this year in 2011. Note the dramatic drop after Howard implemented Nauru in 2001 - only one boat with one person in 2002 and then at first gradual increase since labor changed the policy and once word got around, massive increase in the last two years:

Graphic showing the number of asylum seekers who have arrived in Australia by boat since 1989. Graphic: Matt Pike
Source: News Limited

Found on this article: Villawood Detention Centre rioters may be forced home

 

[noco]

I wonder if we will be singing this song in 20, 30, 40 or 50 years time. Or will it be we are 21 and not one.


http://www.youtube.com/storytellermedia

 

[Julia]

The following is from the link provided by Sails:

Should asylum-seeker protesters be immediately deported?

* Yes 94.48% (633 votes)
* No 5.52% (37 votes)

Total votes: 670

Also from the same article is the statement that a portable kitchen has been flown in from Melbourne to ensure the detainees continued to enjoy hot meals.

What????

If they destroy the kitchen, let them live with the consequences.
This sort of pandering to criminal behaviour is utter madness.

 

[Glen48]

Seems to me if you are foreign your have the world at your feet and if you were born here suck it up they need more help than you do,,,

 

[drsmith]

Here's an interesting graph from the Herald Sun - it doesn't appear to include arrivals so far this year in 2011. Note the dramatic drop after Howard implemented Nauru in 2001 - only one boat with one person in 2002 and then at first gradual increase since labor changed the policy and once word got around, massive increase in the last two years:

Graphic showing the number of asylum seekers who have arrived in Australia by boat since 1989. Graphic: Matt Pike
Source: News Limited

Found on this article: Villawood Detention Centre rioters may be forced home

Even opponents of the former Coalition government's policies are now getting stuck in;

The Villawood standoff came as opinion began to shift on detention policies among former opponents of John Howard's offshore detention regime.

Psychiatrist Tanveer Ahmed, who opposed the Howard government's policy of offshore detention and processing when it was introduced, now says the Pacific Solution was "more humane" than the current approach to the treatment of asylum-seekers.

"What the government is doing is essentially inviting more people to come to Australia, and then detaining them for lengthy periods," Dr Ahmed said. "That is a greater evil than offshore processing."

Adding further insult to injury, the graphic above is even more shocking for Labor when seen in the following context;

He said it was no coincidence that at a time when refugee numbers were declining in other parts of the world, there was a sharp upswing in arrivals in Australia.

http://www.theaustralian.com.au/nat...ut-heat-on-labor/story-fn59niix-1226043544659

 

[bellenuit]

Also from the same article is the statement that a portable kitchen has been flown in from Melbourne to ensure the detainees continued to enjoy hot meals.

What????

If they destroy the kitchen, let them live with the consequences.
This sort of pandering to criminal behaviour is utter madness.

I don't have an issue with the portable kitchen as presumably there were many detainees who didn't participate in the protest and they need to be fed. I think we should act humanely to the asylum seekers we detain, so long as they don't break the law. If they break the law, as the protesters did, those involved should be sent to prison, but those who didn't participate shouldn't be punished.

That isn't to say that all means should not be taken to prevent asylum seekers coming here in the first place, other than through approved channels.

My take on the whole issue is that we should withdraw from the asylum seeker convention so that those who try to exploit our generosity though legal means have no basis for doing so. However, we should still take a big number of genuine asylum seekers, but only on our terms, not on the basis of an outdated and no longer appropriate convention.

 

[sails]

Here we go again - another two boats have arrived - one carrying 80 people. One of the boats arrived at Cocos Island and the opposition have serious concerns if the island can handle these illegal arrivals or if the smugglers are trying something different:

More here from the ABC: Asylum seekers land on Cocos Island

 

[Julia]

From today's "Sunday Mail":

Taxpayers are being slugged thousands of dollars to reward asylum seekers with luxuries such as automated nose hair trimmers and cigarettes for doing art classes and playing sport.

Detainees are entitled to claim the battery operated grooming gadgets, smokes, phone cards and snacks by using extra points they earn for playing soccer, volleyball and table tennis and attending English lessons.

 

[noco]

Gillard and Bowen have completly lost the plot on our border protection.

Temporary protection visas!!!!!!!!!!

Could they now be looking at Nauru??????????

No, that would be too much like swallowing their pride.


http://www.theaustralian.com.au/nat...nd-aid-solutions/story-e6frgd0x-1226045205436

 

[noco]

And here is Andrew Bolt's view on Labor's wayward policies on asylum seekers.


http://blogs.news.com.au/couriermai...on_its_labor_who_will_need_a_protection_visa/

 

[noco]

Another Labor 'back flip'. How much more sloppy can they get?


http://blogs.news.com.au/couriermai...ouriermail/comments/just_stop_the_damn_boats/

 

[Happy]

I am against violent people getting permanent residency in our country.

We have enough troubled people without them.

Interesting how would police react if somebody this way would ‘fight’ for unemployment benefit, job or housing commission accommodation?

This had taken too long to react!

 

[drsmith]

Another Labor 'back flip'. How much more sloppy can they get?

A double backflip with the usual bellyflop entry ?

http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2011/04/27/3201376.htm

He says the temporary visa will have two classes.

"A temporary visa which says either A: we will return you when we can, or B: if you become a good community resident, a good resident of Australia and you have a good behaviour track record over a period of time then we will consider other arrangements for you," he said.

They must be getting very dizzy by now.

Pressure from the Greens ?

 

[noco]

Tony Abbott must have been like a breath of fresh air to Serco and the Federal Police on Xmas Island but not so for the asylum seekers. They could all end up on Nauru by Xmas.


http://www.theaustralian.com.au/new...christmas-island/story-e6frg6nf-1226045245809

 

[tothemax6]

Ah look, looking at it objectively, the policy of the left is very clear:
"maximize the hurt we inflict on the Australian nation, whilst posing as moral".

Labor and the Greens cannot simply pour cyanide in our reservoirs, nor can they run people over in the street with bulldozers - these things stand out very starkly to the populace. The populace would probably get too angry, and take physical action.

No, the actions of the Left are fine tuned - inflict damage that is cumulative, and inflict it slowly enough that people are uncomfortable, but not too uncomfortable that they would take the actions required to stop the things happening.

Seriously, if Indonesia invaded tomorrow, Labor would say 'Australia needs to accommodate people from countries less privileged than ours, and embrace the vibrant culture of these boat-people', and give them 'temporary protection visas'. Any opposition to this would of course be 'xenophobic, islamophobic, racism'.

Can anyone imagine what it would be like if the Left simply disappeared, as though they never existed? I imagine it would feel like filling your lungs with fresh air after a life lived in a polluted city.
No crime, a booming economy, low taxes, low divorce rates, equality under the law, a functional navy, a national identity...
Paradise.

 

[noco]

Ah look, looking at it objectively, the policy of the left is very clear:
"maximize the hurt we inflict on the Australian nation, whilst posing as moral".

Labor and the Greens cannot simply pour cyanide in our reservoirs, nor can they run people over in the street with bulldozers - these things stand out very starkly to the populace. The populace would probably get too angry, and take physical action.

No, the actions of the Left are fine tuned - inflict damage that is cumulative, and inflict it slowly enough that people are uncomfortable, but not too uncomfortable that they would take the actions required to stop the things happening.

Seriously, if Indonesia invaded tomorrow, Labor would say 'Australia needs to accommodate people from countries less privileged than ours, and embrace the vibrant culture of these boat-people', and give them 'temporary protection visas'. Any opposition to this would of course be 'xenophobic, islamophobic, racism'.

Can anyone imagine what it would be like if the Left simply disappeared, as though they never existed? I imagine it would feel like filling your lungs with fresh air after a life lived in a polluted city.
No crime, a booming economy, low taxes, low divorce rates, equality under the law, a functional navy, a national identity...
Paradise.

How true! How very true!!!!!!!!

 

[Julia]

No, the actions of the Left are fine tuned - inflict damage that is cumulative, and inflict it slowly enough that people are uncomfortable, but not too uncomfortable that they would take the actions required to stop the things happening.

Can you explain just why any government would want to destroy the wellbeing of its populace, even this woeful excuse for a government?

I suppose the answer will be that to do so would be to produce a population that is in fear and cowering, therefore more easily manipulated.

If so, then that may have stacked up a long time ago, but I doubt it will these days.
Just consider the exponential slide in the polls of the government as they lurch from disaster to disaster.
The great majority of the voting public are not nearly as stupid as governments suppose.

 

[tothemax6]

Can you explain just why any government would want to destroy the wellbeing of its populace, even this woeful excuse for a government?

I have still to discover the answer to that question to my satisfaction. The reality is, a large portion of them do genuinely enjoy the idea of the populace suffering (look at religions, for instance, they have always praised suffering and going without as a virtue). Others of course, are like the doctor treating a broken arm like a dislocation - making it worse, convinced he is doing good.
In the end, their actions are as they are, the effects of those actions indicate their motives, the origin of those motives are a secondary question .

 

[Calliope]

I heard the Immigration Minister, Chris Bowen, being interviewed on the radio yesterday. Rather than admit that they have no solution to the illegals, this barefaced liar said the the Timor solution could still be a goer.