ASF Website Redesign

Joe Blow · 15 November 2019

rnr said:
That's interesting that you say that Joe as I do not hold any shares (either personally or through related entities) where I have posted a chart in an ASX equity thread.
These charts come to my attention through the development of EOD or EOW database scans and as such I post them up for the benefit of the Forum members in an endeavor to provoke some discussion on the equity concerned.

Hi Rob, I think that a large percentage of people who post on stocks are like you and do not have an interest but post for the purpose of engaging in discussion. This is something that I wish to encourage.

Bigdog brought up the issue of a feature where those posting on stocks are compelled to declare that they either have an interest or do not have an interest in the stock they are posting about. My feeling is that in circumstances where someone has not specifically stated that they do not have an interest, it should be assumed that they do. I assume that the purpose of such a feature is to help people identify any agendas others may have in posting about a stock. In the absence of a declaration that someone does not have an interest, I think it's probably safer to assume that they do.

I don't think it really matters much either way to be honest and I don't think there is much utility in such a feature as there is no way to determine if people are being honest about their positions.

barney · 15 November 2019

Joe Blow said:
Once I can afford it I'll be upgrading to the new version of this forum software, so the front page will be changing. Not sure exactly when this will be happening but it shouldn't be too far away.

With that thought in mind Joe ….. Please put my $50 from last months comp towards something for the site if it helps .. Cheers

Joe Blow · 15 November 2019

barney said:
With that thought in mind Joe ….. Please put my $50 from last months comp towards something for the site if it helps .. Cheers

Thanks barney. Your support is sincerely appreciated.

barney · 15 November 2019

Joe Blow said:
Thanks barney. Your support is sincerely appreciated.

Cheers M8. Its not much but hopefully every little bit helps …..

Plus you deserve it for putting up with all us boofheads

bigdog · 15 November 2019

Joe Blow said:
Bigdog brought up the issue of a feature where those posting on stocks are compelled to declare that they either have an interest or do not

Suggest "I Hold" and Do not Hold" buttons and not mandatory or nor compelled to declare

I post lots of important news items related to many companies which I hold and do not hold. I sometimes make my hold declaration!

Chronos-Plutus · 22 May 2020

Joe Blow said:
Hi Rob, I think that a large percentage of people who post on stocks are like you and do not have an interest but post for the purpose of engaging in discussion. This is something that I wish to encourage.

Bigdog brought up the issue of a feature where those posting on stocks are compelled to declare that they either have an interest or do not have an interest in the stock they are posting about. My feeling is that in circumstances where someone has not specifically stated that they do not have an interest, it should be assumed that they do. I assume that the purpose of such a feature is to help people identify any agendas others may have in posting about a stock. In the absence of a declaration that someone does not have an interest, I think it's probably safer to assume that they do.

I don't think it really matters much either way to be honest and I don't think there is much utility in such a feature as there is no way to determine if people are being honest about their positions.

Hi Joe,

Do you think a data-link to the ASX website would be good to get market prices and information?

Also, dedicated pages for each stock where the threads can be found?

Hope it helps.

Chronos-Plutus

Joe Blow · 22 May 2020

Chronos-Plutus said:
Hi Joe,

Do you think a data-link to the ASX website would be good to get market prices and information?

ASX data is unfortunately a little too costly for a community our size. International exchange data, no problem. Same with forex data, commodity price data etc. However, ASX data is subject to very expensive licensing fees courtesy of the ASX. Well out of our budget I'm afraid.

Chronos-Plutus said:
Also, dedicated pages for each stock where the threads can be found?

Not quite sure what you're seeing in your head here, but if you could elaborate a little further I'd appreciate it. I'm actually working on a forum software upgrade at the moment, so if anyone wants to throw some ideas at me about how things would be better organised here, now is the time to do it.

I'm happy to make any design changes that will make ASF more useful to its users. Just let me know what ideas you have.

Chronos-Plutus · 22 May 2020

Joe Blow said:
ASX data is unfortunately a little too costly for a community our size. International exchange data, no problem. Same with forex data, commodity price data etc. However, ASX data is subject to very expensive licensing fees courtesy of the ASX. Well out of our budget I'm afraid.

Not quite sure what you're seeing in your head here, but if you could elaborate a little further I'd appreciate it. I'm actually working on a forum software upgrade at the moment, so if anyone wants to throw some ideas at me about how things would be better organised here, now is the time to do it.

I'm happy to make any design changes that will make ASF more useful to its users. Just let me know what ideas you have.

Thanks for the quick response. OK, I wasn't aware of the ASX data being so costly. Maybe a broker like Commsec, Bell Direct might let you get access to some market data in exchange for advertising their services?

As for the stock pages; I was thinking like a search list A-Z where you select the stock and click on it. Then you're directed to a specific stock with information of the company and where the discussion threads and posts are on that particular stock. That would be under a tab called equities/stock.

Then you can have a tab for commodities where you search a list A-Z where you select the commodity and click on it. Then you're directed to a specific commodity with information and where the discussion threads and posts are on that particular commodity.

Dona Ferentes · 22 May 2020

I think you're doing a great job.

Doing stuff on the phone, works OK if no editing needed. But if it is, watch out...best to go to the computer/ laptop to make changes.

Also, one really minor thing: on the smart phone, when moving between pages, an ad can crop up. Hit the X to delete, and often I'm logged out. It sits directly underneath. Leads and lags of downloads, I suppose. Not big issue, just something that happens when bandwidth isn't fast !!

at least on the site there aren't any of these errors that creep in : "in ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬Ã…â€œsafe modeÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬Ã‚Â operations" where dashes (-) and or "companyÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬Ã¢â€žÂ¢s solution" for apostrophes (') go rogue.

Keep up the good work. I haven't blocked adverts, a minor inconvenience (and a good BS reset awareness exercise, most of the time)

Joe Blow · 22 May 2020

Chronos-Plutus said:
Thanks for the quick response. OK, I wasn't aware of the ASX data being so costly. Maybe a broker like Commsec, Bell Direct might let you get access to some market data in exchange for advertising their services?

I'm actually in discussions with a broker at the moment. I won't mention their name just yet as nothing has been finalised but data has been one of the topics discussed. If there are any updates I'll let you know.

Chronos-Plutus said:
As for the stock pages; I was thinking like a search list A-Z where you select the stock and click on it. Then you're directed to a specific stock with information of the company and where the discussion threads and posts are on that particular stock. That would be under a tab called equities/stock.

Then you can have a tab for commodities where you search a list A-Z where you select the commodity and click on it. Then you're directed to a specific commodity with information and where the discussion threads and posts are on that particular commodity.

I think I understand what you mean. Is there another website that does this well? Would be interested in seeing a live example of what you have in mind.

The way threads are organised, especially stock threads, is one of those topics where its hard to get a handle on what layout or user interface would work best for everyone, or at least the majority.

I guess a good place to start is to ask what is difficult about the way things are organised at the moment? What are the biggest pain points for those trying to find thread on specific companies or commodities or forex pairs? Or anything really?

What are the things that irritate you the most about the current setup? What would make your life easier? Those question is addressed to anyone with an opinion on the topic. If you do have an opinion now is actually a good time to let me know.

Joe Blow · 22 May 2020

Dona Ferentes said:
I think you're doing a great job.

Doing stuff on the phone, works OK if no editing needed. But if it is, watch out...best to go to the computer/ laptop to make changes.

Also, one really minor thing: on the smart phone, when moving between pages, an ad can crop up. Hit the X to delete, and often I'm logged out. It sits directly underneath. Leads and lags of downloads, I suppose. Not big issue, just something that happens when bandwidth isn't fast !!

One of the big focuses of the upcoming software upgrade is to really improve things for phones and tablets. The newer version of this software does things much better.

I promise that the mobile experience at ASF will be much better very soon.

Dona Ferentes said:
Keep up the good work. I haven't blocked adverts, a minor inconvenience (and a good BS reset awareness exercise, most of the time)

Thanks. The adverts make upgrading stuff possible. Without them, there would be no hope of anything changing, or improving. There would be no stock tipping competition and... well, there would be no website at all actually.

Dona Ferentes · 22 May 2020

promise ?

Joe Blow · 22 May 2020

Dona Ferentes said:
promise ?

About an improved mobile experience? Yeah, I promise.

Dona Ferentes · 22 May 2020

then I should get an improved mobile.

(Naw, Nokia 6 works fine)

Joe Blow · 22 May 2020

Dona Ferentes said:
then I should get an improved mobile.

(Naw, Nokia 6 works fine)

Not saying it's going to be perfect. But it will be better. Obviously the bigger the screen the better the experience will be. So choice of device will definitely be a factor.

Chronos-Plutus · 22 May 2020

Joe Blow said:
ASX data is unfortunately a little too costly for a community our size. International exchange data, no problem. Same with forex data, commodity price data etc. However, ASX data is subject to very expensive licensing fees courtesy of the ASX. Well out of our budget I'm afraid.

Not quite sure what you're seeing in your head here, but if you could elaborate a little further I'd appreciate it. I'm actually working on a forum software upgrade at the moment, so if anyone wants to throw some ideas at me about how things would be better organised here, now is the time to do it.

I'm happy to make any design changes that will make ASF more useful to its users. Just let me know what ideas you have.

The company information is free because you can get it from their shareholder reports and financial sta

Joe Blow said:
I'm actually in discussions with a broker at the moment. I won't mention their name just yet as nothing has been finalised but data has been one of the topics discussed. If there are any updates I'll let you know.

I think I understand what you mean. Is there another website that does this well? Would be interested in seeing a live example of what you have in mind.

The way threads are organised, especially stock threads, is one of those topics where its hard to get a handle on what layout or user interface would work best for everyone, or at least the majority.

I guess a good place to start is to ask what is difficult about the way things are organised at the moment? What are the biggest pain points for those trying to find thread on specific companies or commodities or forex pairs? Or anything really?

What are the things that irritate you the most about the current setup? What would make your life easier? Those question is addressed to anyone with an opinion on the topic. If you do have an opinion now is actually a good time to let me know.

So there isn't really a good example but what I have in my mind is like the company search function on the ASX or a broker. The stock comes up with just the financial basics though, like a chart, market price, company announcements and past financial metrics.

So you will have something like this on one side

https://www.asx.com.au/asx/share-price-research/company/ASX

Then you will have the dedicated stock threads, posts and discussions on the other side

Chronos-Plutus · 22 May 2020

I think the past financial metrics from the financial statements are important to have on the page somewhere

Joe Blow · 22 May 2020

Chronos-Plutus said:
I think the past financial metrics from the financial statements are important to have on the page somewhere

OK, thanks for the feedback. I will do what I can to include some basic financial information on each thread about an ASX listed company.

Chronos-Plutus · 22 May 2020

Joe Blow said:
OK, thanks for the feedback. I will do what I can to include some basic financial information on each thread about an ASX listed company.

Thanks Joe,

I think it will help with the discussions as we will have visibility on market price and some basic stock financial metrics over the last few years maybe.

Chronos-Plutus · 23 May 2020

Joe Blow said:
OK, thanks for the feedback. I will do what I can to include some basic financial information on each thread about an ASX listed company.

Hi Joe,

ADVFN forum in the UK is pretty big, maybe they can help you guys to become Australia's top stock forum, enter into some sort of arrangement or loose alliance with them perhaps: https://uk.advfn.com/cmn/fbb/threads.php3

Hope it helps mate.

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