It sounds as though the immigration situation is about to also follow the Trump era lead."What is Trumpism"
"Building a wall and keeping brown people out "
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Ummm, actually it's trying to stop illegal immigrants flooding over the border to the detriment of American society.
If I dry-back it in the US and het caught, I'll get my @r5e deported, and I'm a whitefella.
Joe Walsh is an idiot.
I don't follow any of U.S politics, I only had an interest in Trump due to the fact he stopped poncing on like most politicians do and actually tried to do something about the slow slide of the Wests living standards.The primaries will be super interesting also, from both sides.
The Dems have nothing but useless Muppets.
If DeSantis has any brains, he will stay out of any affray with the God Emperor. Haley and Pence have no chance.
I personally think DeSantis will make a fine president, but its not his time yet.
Bingo, absolutely!I don't follow any of U.S politics, I only had an interest in Trump due to the fact he stopped poncing on like most politicians do and actually tried to do something about the slow slide of the Wests living standards.
By introducing tariffs on Chinese gear, giving the EU a kick up the butt for having a selfish self centered attitude and demanding refugees use the correct channels to enter the country.
The problem with most of that, it was exactly opposite to what big business wanted, they wanted to manufacture in third world countries to maximise profits, the EU which also is a big business conglomerate were having a beano spending all their money on vehicle production also in third world countries and exporting them to the U.S why would they want to divert money to the U.S for arms, when the U.S can just come and save their ar$e like every other time, then you have the illegals working for nothing for fear of deportation keeping wages down.
Trump had to go. ?
The only problem is, all the issues Trump said would become a problem have come to fruition.
China is much more confident now Trump has gone.
The EU is begging the US to bail them and the Ukraine out, which Trump inferred was the issue with being captive to Russia's gas.
The immigration issue is becoming a massive problem for them.
Add to that North Korea who Trump told Kim to pull his head in, or he would blow it off, Kim hadn't fired ICBM's for several years after the Trump confrontation, he is now throwing them around with gay abandon.
Yep things look a lot more stable post Trump.
I don't follow any of U.S politics, I only had an interest in Trump due to the fact he stopped poncing on like most politicians do and actually tried to do something about the slow slide of the Wests living standards.
By introducing tariffs on Chinese gear, giving the EU a kick up the butt for having a selfish self centered attitude and demanding refugees use the correct channels to enter the country.
The problem with most of that, it was exactly opposite to what big business wanted, they wanted to manufacture in third world countries to maximise profits, the EU which also is a big business conglomerate were having a beano spending all their money on vehicle production and industrial manufacturing also in third world countries and exporting them to the U.S why would they want to divert money to the U.S for arms, when the U.S can just come and save their ar$e like every other time, then you have the illegals working for nothing for fear of deportation keeping wages down.
Trump had to go. ?
The only problem is, all the issues Trump said would become a problem have come to fruition.
China is much more confident now Trump has gone.
The EU is begging the US to bail them and the Ukraine out, which Trump inferred was the issue with being captive to Russia's gas.
The immigration issue is becoming a massive problem for them.
Add to that North Korea who Trump told Kim to pull his head in, or he would blow it off, Kim hadn't fired ICBM's for several years after the Trump confrontation, he is now throwing them around with gay abandon.
Yep things look a lot more stable post Trump.
I'm definitely not saying Trump didn't have self interest, of course he did most politicians do to varying degrees.
But Trump from memory is into the leisure industry, so the more affluent Americans are, the more money they have to spend in his businesses.
So actually returning manufacturing to the U.S would have helped Trump, but it would have been to the detriment of margins for manufacturing businesses, so who pays the media? advertising, who advertises the most?
What he's religious, that's hard to believe, but then again knowing the religious people I've met, maybe not. LolYeah...nah Trump was a useful idiot for the Republican religious right to run their agenda nothing else, evidence the Supreme Court.
So in summary, what evidence in the Supreme Court negated the points I made, as listed:Yeah...nah Trump was a useful idiot for the Republican religious right to run their agenda nothing else, evidence the Supreme Court.
So in summary, what evidence in the Supreme Court negated the points I made, as listed:
China trade tariffs.
EU underspending as a percentage of GDP on military equipment and technology.
Supressing Kim jong-un, missile testing.
Enforcing tighter border control measures, to name a few.
The other obvious point in your short succinct sentence, that probably requires addressing is the "hate speech" (useful idiot), I thought that was a right wing loony affliction, hated and despised by the left?
Obviously not, if it falls under the umbrella of an acceptable target, that is probably going to be the undoing of all this nonsense IMO.
Interesting times on many fronts, the rich championing the poor has to end badly, the middle class carry all the load and receive the least reward.
Absolutely agree, but from a political and economic perspective, the points you raise are just the result of a very unpleasant personality, which I've never disagreed with. All your examples are personality based, which is what I've been pointing out.Donald Trumps achievements ? I won't argue with your identifying a number of points you either agree with or believe Donald Trump was on the right path. What I'm saying is what is not on the list and in my mind far more more concerning.
1) Deliberate undermining of peoples confidence in the US electoral process. He went into the 2020 election repeatedly saying he would have to win unless there was electoral fraud
2) Declaring he did win the 2020 election because the counted results were fraudulent. All the criticial election result were scoured. There was no evidence of election fraud that would in any way change the results. His lawyers took 60 actions to courts and in no case could show electoral fraud. His AG investigated the results and said there was no fraud.
3) Despite this reality he organised a rally on January 6th outside the capitol building to "Stop the steal". The rally was an attempt to intimidate or force Congress not to complete the counting of votes that would formalise President Biden as new President. The rally turned into a march on Congress and the thousands of supporters forced their way into he building intent on capturing/stopping /hanging ? the politicians who were going to vote.
4) He watched the assault on TV and did nothing for 2 hours. As Congress was being invaded and police fought with insurrectionists Donald Trump sat and watched. Officials were pleading for action as a President to condemn this behaviour and reinforce the police. He waited for over two hours before asking his people to "stand down".
5) He continues to insist the election was stolen and demands anyone who wants his support strongly agree. This is the element of the cult. Donald Trump has effectively purged the Republician Party of anyone who acknowledges the last election was fairly run and fairly lost. They have been replaced with strident Congress members who echo his lying electoral fraud claims. The remainder of the Republican Party just accept his claims to stay in power. The Republician party is now in his control and the only people who can be heard are those like De Santis who effectively mimic his language and behaviour.
"Trumpism" is an authoritarian government model that is non democratic and will not willingly go out of office to another party. We have authoritarian governments in Hungary, Turkey, Russia, China to name a few. Hitlers Germany, Mussolinis Italy were authoritarian governments.
Ex -conservative Republician Joe Walsh highlights the reality of Trumps goal in 5 minutes. That was why I posted it.
Absolutely agree, but from a political and economic perspective, the points you raise are just the result of a very unpleasant personality, which I've never disagreed with. All your examples are personality based, which is what I've been pointing out.
It actually doesn't matter, what he said post losing the election, he is then a disenfranchised megalomaniac. He is no longer the President, there will be those who still follow him, but the next election will show how much traction he has gained.OK SP you say Trump has an " unpleasant personality".
Generally that label would be applied to crashing loud mouthed bores. You could add overall BS artists who boast and boost themselves at every opportunity. Go a step further and you could suggest a determinedly ruthless person who does anything he can get away with to get his way. That is a conventionally unpleasant personality. It's fair to say that is how Trump could have been viewed in the past. But Trump pot 2016 goes way, way past this label.
What Trump does is what counts. He actively destroys public confidence in the entire US political system by claiming he was robbed . He pressured everyone from Pence to the A-G to State election officials to follow his line and make up evidence to support his claim. That is beyond "unpleasant personality" . It is pure sociopath.
His demand that people in the Republician Party support his claim of electoral robbery is the stuff of CULTS. Whether it is the cult of Hitler, Stalin, Putin or any contemporary Authoritarian leader the results are similar. Trump and Trumpism will run a government without boundaries ruled by the dictates of one person who uses fear and muscle to keep everyone in their place. The law is now subjugated to the will of the leader. There is no political opposition because once the leader has spoken any contradiction is practically treasonous. The only press that is allowed supports the Leader or is totally "tame".
Donald Trump has repeatedly made these demands. This is not guessing what he would do.
Of course that doesn't mean one can't live in an authoritarian regime. You just have to keep your head down, never criticize the leader or his policies/police and make the right noises. If that is the society people want there are plenty of other places they could explore before wanting to impose it on Oz or the United States
What he's religious, that's hard to believe, but then again knowing the religious people I've met, maybe not. Lol
No he isn't SP. According to him and the 40 million followers who believe everything he says... he should still be President and only lost office because of a corrupt electoral system.It actually doesn't matter, what he said post losing the election, he is then a disenfranchised megalomaniac
And? It takes all kinds of personalities to be in office to suit the times, as I've said before Winston Churchill was legendary during the war, but apparently a very unattractive pompous person and didn't last in peacefull times.No he isn't SP. According to him and the 40 million followers who believe everything he says... he should still be President and only lost office because of a corrupt electoral system.
Because he still has immense personal control of this voting base he also controls the Republician Party and demands that they in general and in particular agree he wrongfully lost the election.
You say it is the media that are keeping Trump alive ? Trump made the decision post Nov 5th to not allow a peaceful Presidential transition. Every single thing he has done since then has been built on the lie of wrongful election loss. It has created on ongoing rift in US society. On one hand we have a significant core of people who swear by his every word coupled with a Republican Party that is effectovely controlled by Trumps followers. And then there is the remainder of the US which acknowldges there is a legitimate current President. That is a serious split.
$.78 billion. Upper end.Looks like Fox will pay up.
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