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That article is about crime in general (much of which would have nothing to do with alcohol) and suggests that whilst there has been an increase, the GC is still a relatively safe place.
That article is about crime in general (much of which would have nothing to do with alcohol) and suggests that whilst there has been an increase, the GC is still a relatively safe place.I think you'll find the Gold Coast has changed a lot.
http://www.goldcoast.com.au/article/2011/12/01/370181_gold-coast-news.html
Oh, right. It doesn't occur to you that much of the media sees it as its mission in life to create the impression that we are living in an alcohol and drug fuelled place far worse than Kabul or Baghdad. You are being sucked in by the "let's have a sensation" media.The only stats I need Julia is on the news every few days ,
What rubbish. Certainly there are admissions of drunks and drug affected people who make the life of emergency people extremely difficult, but they are by no means a majority. A few weeks ago I spent several hours in Emergency with a knee injury and a more peaceful place is hard to imagine.what every cop will tell you about what happens every weekend and the fact that medical staff at hospital emergency wards needs guards these days.
Naaa the ABC are gentile people as are you all, you should see the types on some motoring forums
What were you actually trying to say here?gen·tile
adjective ( sometimes initial capital letter )
1.
of or pertaining to any people not Jewish.
2.
Christian, as distinguished from Jewish.
3.
Mormon Church . not Mormon.
4.
heathen or pagan.
5.
(of a linguistic expression) expressing nationality or local origins.
Exactly the impression I had.OK, the headline of the article you linked to is "Britain to Introduce Minimum Alcohol Price", so I thought that was what you were advocating.
+1.As for not being allowed on the streets when drunk, no thanks. I'd prefer to keep my civil liberties and not let the government impose punitive laws on me because a small minority (and yes it is a small minority) can't control themselves when on the booze.
Correct.The overwhelming majority of violence is not random. If you have evidence to the contrary then please share it.
If you take out domestic violence and incidents where both parties were drinking, you end up with very few genuine acts of random alcohol fuelled violence.
Oh god, now you're just sounding pathetically ridiculous.Better than your ideal country where men are free to roam around dangerously drunk and carry drugs without fear of detection because .......they have their rights
They wont turn up at my place but you're a real risk, civil libertarians are well known for subversive behaviour and use the civil liberty rant to cover their tracks.
What rubbish. Certainly there are admissions of drunks and drug affected people who make the life of emergency people extremely difficult, but they are by no means a majority. A few weeks ago I spent several hours in Emergency with a knee injury and a more peaceful place is hard to imagine.
And tram conductors or any sort of work to support the community instead of the dole.
Oh god, now you're just sounding pathetically ridiculous.
It truly amazes me when people are so willing to give up their rights which for hundreds of years people have died for.
As far I'm concerned, if I'm minding my own business the state has no right to say or do anything to me. And I'm not even a libertarian.
???::screwy:
My son and his girlfriend late at night chatting with friends minding their own business on a party street in the city of Adelaide... when one of the dozen gang members who happened to be walking past gave my sons girlfriend a king hit as he went past. (Maybe thought it was a bit of fun to impress the gang who knows) I dont know about you or what you would have done but if I was physically fit and could chase that clown down i would. But hang on the police across the road are right on to it...yes thats right they've seen it and apprehend my son whilst in pursuit...Hang on thats not right should'nt they be after the bad guy? My sons upset and wanting to chase blurting out they're getting away and they've punched my girlfriend to the ground blah blah. So what can the coppers do but Spray him with capsicum not once but twice, lock him up for the night and charge him for resisting arrest and assult. What else could they do? They contained the situation thats their job. Later on the culprit got arrested for another incident on the night. Now the police who have charged my son want a statement from him and his girlfriend to help put this priceless person away with the help of his past record. Please cooperate??
$4000 further on in legal fees to have a non conviction who's the winner here?
Keep dreaming Mclovin
A large number of the drunken trouble makers are without work and idle.
Here in Victoria the axing of the Tram Conductors, Railway Ticket Officers and other such staff seemed top be a pivotal point in a broad sociological change for the worse.
My son and his girlfriend late at night chatting with friends minding their own business on a party street in the city of Adelaide... when one of the dozen gang members who happened to be walking past gave my sons girlfriend a king hit as he went past. (Maybe thought it was a bit of fun to impress the gang who knows) I dont know about you or what you would have done but if I was physically fit and could chase that clown down i would. But hang on the police across the road are right on to it...yes thats right they've seen it and apprehend my son whilst in pursuit...Hang on thats not right should'nt they be after the bad guy? My sons upset and wanting to chase blurting out they're getting away and they've punched my girlfriend to the ground blah blah. So what can the coppers do but Spray him with capsicum not once but twice, lock him up for the night and charge him for resisting arrest and assult. What else could they do? They contained the situation thats their job. Later on the culprit got arrested for another incident on the night. Now the police who have charged my son want a statement from him and his girlfriend to help put this priceless person away with the help of his past record. Please cooperate??
$4000 further on in legal fees to have a non conviction who's the winner here?
Keep dreaming Mclovin
It truly amazes me when people are so willing to give up their rights which for hundreds of years people have died for. Sometimes, I wish we had a Fourth Amendment.
As far I'm concerned, if I'm minding my own business the state has no right to say or do anything to me. And I'm not even a libertarian.
Oh, right. It doesn't occur to you that much of the media sees it as its mission in life to create the impression that we are living in an alcohol and drug fuelled place far worse than Kabul or Baghdad. You are being sucked in by the "let's have a sensation" media.
What rubbish. Certainly there are admissions of drunks and drug affected people who make the life of emergency people extremely difficult, but they are by no means a majority. A few weeks ago I spent several hours in Emergency with a knee injury and a more peaceful place is hard to imagine.
.One-third of injured patients attending St Vincent’s Hospital Emergency Department have consumed alcohol prior to incurring their injury and almost two-thirds of these patients have been drinking at licensed premises
What were you actually trying to say here?
Oh god, now you're just sounding pathetically ridiculous.
Why are you so concerned about your rights you act within the law don't you or do you want to right to go outside the law, if so tough,
MrBurns said:like to get on a plane in the US where no one has been checked for explosives or weapons ? Course not, wake up to yourself and stop espousing ridiculous unworkable ideals,
MrBurns said:you must be a Labor voter
I get out into Melbourne's stereotypical problem drinking areas fairly often, and interstate from time to time. I see a lot of violence, and it's not too unusual to see it happening to random people who were ignoring the culprit. Often drugs other than alcohol are involved.
It's pretty easy to want to roll your eyes or facepalm when self righteous people living in wealthy suburbs whinge about rights being taken away in times, places and cultures they have no familiarity with. You're not going to be walking down the street minding your own business and causing no trouble and then breathalysed and sniffed. I am a bit of a libertarian, but what do I care if people looking like causing trouble get sniffed? Heck, even if it happens to me because they do it at random, a dog sniffs me and I get a policeman telling me to have a good night. That seems a small price to pay (arguably a novelty) in exchange for keeping druggies in check. They're not going to target non problem areas anyway, it would only be in times and places prone to violence.
This 'I must live in some special part of the country because I don't see the problem' is absurd. It's like advertising the fact that you don't understand the issue, have no familiarity with it and shouldn't be trying to convince others of your baseless opinions.
Looking at what percentage of *all* violence happens in what way is completely irrelevant. If I am with violent strangers I don't become safer just because somewhere else a lot of people are being attacked by people they know! Regardless of what does or doesn't happen elsewhere, I see a lot of violence in bars and on the streets. Can the people complaining about liberty infringement say they see a lot of it too? Sure, in a perfect world we wouldn't have drug sniffs or breathalysers or locks on doors, but I'll give up my right not to be sniffed by a dog when I'm in a violence-prone situation in exchange for the police having the right to protect me and others from drug-related violence.
Sometimes it sucks that good people need to pay more or not be able to take their pocket knife on a plane or be breathalysed when they drive or pay taxes which cover expenses not related to them, but we do need to look at the big picture and do what keeps things best for everyone.
Prevention is better than cure. If getting drunks of the streets prevents crime and traffic accidents I really don't care if some think their rights are infringed.
You used the word "gentile". I gave you a definition of that word and asked what you had actually meant to say. "Gentle" perhaps? I don't know. Would be good if you could clarify. I'm not at all sure where paranoia now is coming in either?So now I'm a racist ? Paranoia is a horrible thing Julia(I seem to be using the roll eyes thing a lot here but it's appropriate)
You used the word "gentile". I gave you a definition of that word and asked what you had actually meant to say. "Gentle" perhaps? I don't know. Would be good if you could clarify. I'm not at all sure where paranoia now is coming in either?
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