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I dont think it's the price it's the laws, you should not be allowed to wander the streets drunk, end of story, so change the licensing rules, licensees aren't supposed to serve drunks but's that all they do on weekends, why isn't that enforced ?
As for not being allowed on the streets when drunk, no thanks. I'd prefer to keep my civil liberties and not let the government impose punitive laws on me because a small minority (and yes it is a small minority) can't control themselves when on the booze.
If one of those small minority hit you over the head with a bottle and put you in hospital, what would you say then ?
The same thing. To be quite honest, it's pretty difficult to just have someone walk up to you and smash a bottle on your head for no reason. It takes two to tango.
OK, the headline of the article you linked to is "Britain to Introduce Minimum Alcohol Price", so I thought that was what you were advocating.
You dont get out much do you ? They dont need a reason.
4.5 percent of Australians aged 14 years or older had been physically abused by someone under the influence of alcohol (AIHW 2008).
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In addition, more than one-third of victims (38%) had consumed alcohol themselves at the time of the incident. This is consistent with evidence that shows that a significant proportion of violent offences are committed by and committed against people who have been drinking or are intoxicated (Plant, Plant & Thornton 2002).
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Despite this strong body of evidence, the relationship between alcohol and violence, like many other complex social phenomena, is not a simple or straightforward one. Research shows that heavy drinking and intoxication are associated with physical aggression (Plant, Plant & Thornton 2002; Wells & Graham 2003). However, the majority of people who drink alcohol do not become offenders or victims of violent crime and consuming alcohol does not necessarily act as a precursor to violent behaviour (Plant, Plant & Thornton 2002).
So you want the right to be drunk in public ?
The overwhelming majority of violence is not random. If you have evidence to the contrary then please share it.
Yes. What reason do you have for taking it away from me?
Does it have to be a majority figure to count ? , go out on a Saturday night walk the streets of your capital city, see how you go.
Because you're a risk to yourself and others, you cant cross the road, you cant do anything safely while drunk.
I do, pretty much every weekend, sometimes even on school nights. You make it sound like Baghdad.
So under your scenario the police can set up a RBT on the footpath?
I think the police pretty much have that power now, they just don't exercise it enough , the streets would be empty if they did.
They absolutely do not have the right to randomly stop and breath test someone who is walking down the street (as opposed to being obviously drunk in public). Those drug sniffing dogs are bad enough, God help us if they ever introduced random searches.
Drunk in a public place
If the police think you are drunk in a public place they may arrest you and place you in custody. They may do this if they think it is necessary for your safety.
Naaa the ABC are gentile people as are you all are
Yes bugger the drug sniffing dogs it's every man's right to carry drugs where ever he likes
- 73% of people identified by the dogs are not carrying drugs
- most drugs detected are small amounts of cannabis
- dogs are failing to detect drug dealers
I'm talking about random searches, with no probable cause.
Been there, done that and have done so sober in several Australian cities.Does it have to be a majority figure to count ? , go out on a Saturday night walk the streets of your capital city, see how you go.
Gold Coast = dominated by tourists and not a lot of trouble to be seen. Just stay well away when Schoolies is on.
No point bothering with you if you arent causing trouble or staggering around.
Yep. Agree, though, Tink, Burnsie seems to have been a bit tarnished by those ABC lefties.
Are you for real? You're ideal country is where the police can carry out random searches? How about if they turn up at your house and start going through your stuff, you know, incase they find anything illegal?
ETA: I may have misinterpreted this as sarcasm, I'm not sure.
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