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Aboriginal?

http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2007/07/10/1974164.htm?section=justin
Not just about sex abuse - and maybe a tacit admission that medical facilities in the outback have been a bit lacking over the years.
 

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ABC had both news posted today, about an hour ago.

I am bit confused, and further down the track we will have STOLEN PORNOGRAPHY GENERATION claims or something like that.




 
the Brough way or the Garret
(not that Garret is his shadow - but he'd make a great minister for Ab affairs IMO)

where do you end when you go down the road of blanket censorship ?

this latest intervention (claimed by some of these communities - men women kids alike - to be unjustified)

1. Obviously knee-jerk reaction
2. obviuosly unsustainable in the long term
and thirdly,
3. obviously election year in my books.


and Brough happily saying "we've identified 73 or 78 or whatever communities where things are out of control etc

some of these communities better than some suburbs of Sydney - have hence they've offended model ab communities who were tackling the problems and winning.

when will these people (pollies) learn that they can't peddle bs.
 
australia votes against the draft text adopted today by the un gen ass known as the UN Declaration on the Rights of Indigenous Peoples:

http://www.un.org/apps/news/story.asp?NewsID=23794&Cr=indigenous&Cr1=


link to the doc:

http://daccessdds.un.org/doc/UNDOC/LTD/N07/498/30/PDF/N0749830.pdf?OpenElement


cheers
 
The brief report I heard this morning on ABC's 'AM' programme drew attention to the fact that the suggested declaration included the right of indigenous peoples to allow their customary law to override the laws of the country in which they live.

This would, imo, be a good enough reason to reject it.
 



It is not thoughtful to make such a comment on death note, but what struck me is that there is such a debate on Aboriginal mortality and I wander what would be her longevity like should she have not been stolen?
 
It is not thoughtful to make such a comment on death note, but what struck me is that there is such a debate on Aboriginal mortality and I wander what would be her longevity like should she have not been stolen?
Probably considerably less but that should not be a factor when considering you grow up never knowing your family and probly spend half your life looking for them or trying to answer questions that would not have been raised if you were not stolen
 
It is not thoughtful to make such a comment on death note, but what struck me is that there is such a debate on Aboriginal mortality and I wander what would be her longevity like should she have not been stolen?
Happy
I was at Port Hedland last week - lots of aborigines, and all happy (like you and I ) - but I'd prefer not to speculate on her longevity had she not been stolen. Not something Aus should be be proud of either way. (imo)
 
You've got to be kidding?

 
More outrageous is that:
Judge Bradley said from her Cairns home yesterday that she considered the sentences "appropriate" in the case because they were the penalties asked for by the Crown prosecutor.

No wonder the decent aboriginal community is disgusted with the justice system and venting their hostilities at police in particular.
 
I expect the police are as exasperated with results like these too, so little point in the aborigines getting upset with the police.

Kerry Shine (Qld A.G.) will appeal against the sentence (non-sentence!)
The judiciary make a habit of this sort of thing.
 
I can't believe this 'Judge' came to this sentencing decision, on what facts we have. Her days are numbered, I hope.

Perhaps there was presumed to be some 'traditional' justice to follow.
 
I can't believe this 'Judge' came to this sentencing decision, on what facts we have. Her days are numbered, I hope.

Perhaps there was presumed to be some 'traditional' justice to follow.

Christ... someone should rape that judge.

You'd expect that sort of out of touch sentence from a stereotypical senile 70 year old male judge, but from a female?

Totally bizarre considering a 10 year old isn't legally able to give consent anyway.
 
I can't believe this 'Judge' came to this sentencing decision, on what facts we have. Her days are numbered, I hope.

Perhaps there was presumed to be some 'traditional' justice to follow.

Traditionally, tribal law and punishment does not apply to the un-initiated, and I would guess that that at least 6 of them are too young to have been through the initiation.... so any traditional retribution, if carried out, will be meted out to thier (tribal-skin) relatives..
Cheers
.......Kauri
 
Totally bizarre considering a 10 year old isn't legally able to give consent anyway.
such an important point chops ..

On another matter, but not totally unrelated..
I'm just watching ABC - a baby (5 mths) raped in Sth Africa
the medical team who attended needed counselling
the child has a colostomy bag because of ruptured insides.
 
They should execute the 9 rapists and the judge. What the hell is this world coming too?? we would rather save tree's and cats then our own kids???

And apparently this judge has kids aswell!!!

Digusting is an understatement
 
Well. surprise, surprise, its been a few months since my last appearance in this thread and by the sounds of things the whole Aboriginal state of affairs seems to be even worse, I didn't think that was possible!!!

I don't think there is a solution for them and my prediction is that things will deteriorate further until over many hundred years they will essentially disappear. Interbreeding and substance abuse will be the end of them.

I don't think they have the genetic makeup to survive, possibly some form of natural selection is occuring?
Thats my theory anyway.

I wish them all the best but i just don't see them surviving myself.
 
Well, let's hope their leaders and those in the white population who are in a position to make a difference to their outcomes don't take such a negative and pessimistic view.
 
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