Aboriginal?

[MalteseBull]

I don't think they exist anymore
they are all cross-breeds with english etc.. background..


they still claim to be aboriginal ofcourse to get centerlink money

 

[phoenixrising]

On the other side of the coin, I have a favourite story to tell in these situations.

In a small dusty country town in the Central West of NSW lived an Aboriginal family. The father was a hard working dignfied gun shearer who along with his wife did his best to raise 9 children. They lived in little better than a tin shed.

One of the kids took to hitting a tennis ball against a concrete wall (like Bradman with a stick) and got good at it. She was discovered by a passing professional tennis coach and mentored to win Wimbldon at age 19. I am of course refering to Yvonne Goolagong

Did she sniff glue, complain of being a victim of society and do nothing? No way, she wanted to do it and got a lot of support along the way.

No matter what we aim for in life we will probably hit it.

 

[crackaton]

I know a girl who is blonde blue eyes. She has aboriginal heritage. Essentially it means they get cheap loans etc from the governement. Just another way a lot of them rort the system if you ask me.

 

[rederob]

I know a girl who is blonde blue eyes. She has aboriginal heritage. Essentially it means they get cheap loans etc from the governement. Just another way a lot of them rort the system if you ask me.

It's so amusing reading all this from people who probably have never lived with or worked with ATSI peoples.
I never realised how good it was to be an aboriginal.

Disclosure: I worked for ATSIC in the 90's when Keating was so concerned about aboriginal matters he attached the portfolio to the Prime Minister's Department. The present government has "mainstreamed" aboriginal interests. That is, rather than have any over-arching body addressing specific aboriginal concerns, white people with control of multi million dollar funding programs try not to discriminate on who gets the money. Howard remains relaxed and comfortable: If he is in office another 10 years there won't be a problem because there won't be any aboriginals to worry about.

 

[crackaton]

It's so amusing reading all this from people who probably have never lived with or worked with ATSI peoples.
I never realised how good it was to be an aboriginal.

Disclosure: I worked for ATSIC in the 90's when Keating was so concerned about aboriginal matters he attached the portfolio to the Prime Minister's Department. The present government has "mainstreamed" aboriginal interests. That is, rather than have any over-arching body addressing specific aboriginal concerns, white people with control of multi million dollar funding programs try not to discriminate on who gets the money. Howard remains relaxed and comfortable: If he is in office another 10 years there won't be a problem because there won't be any aboriginals to worry about.

Yeah right. There are actually geniune people of aboriginal descent who could not give a rats about that crap. free loans and all the bull****. So there you have it.

Once upon a time it was disdainful to be associated with aboriginals nowdays it seems its so coucha.

Frankly its BS.

 

[Joe Blow]

One post in this thread has already been deleted because of racism and in my opinion there are a couple more that are close to stepping over the line.

Let me make one thing perfectly clear to everybody. Rational discussion of issues of race are welcome at ASF but racism is not. I wont stand for it.

I do not want to hear "All aborigines are (insert racial stereotype here)" Why? Because the only thing all aborigines are is, well... aboriginal. Racial, religious or stereotyping based on nationality is ugly and unnacceptable.

Racist posts will be deleted and repeat offenders will be banned. There are plenty of forums that welcome bigotry and prejudice. This is not one of them.

 

[rederob]

Yeah right. There are actually geniune people of aboriginal descent who could not give a rats about that crap. free loans and all the bull****. So there you have it.
Once upon a time it was disdainful to be associated with aboriginals nowdays it seems its so coucha.
Frankly its BS.

crackaton
I think you are right.
I am not aware of "free loans" being available.
Unless ...... you can tell us where they might be available?
I will then provide a link to the aboriginal people who are paying interest on their loans so they can get a better deal.

By there way, where do we find "false" people of aboriginal descent?
Are these just people who lie about their heritage - perhaps greedy, freeloading white people who do not give a rats?

 

[mista200]

It would be good if someone showed a link for all their crappy extra benifits... hmm they even get more dole money than the rest of us...

I don't think aboriginals are getting any sympathy from white or yellow australians until they are treated equally......... Eg an aboriginal can get into practically any course they want at university whilst other poor people go without.. until they become "australians" they get no sympathy from me!

 

[crackaton]

crackaton
I think you are right.
I am not aware of "free loans" being available.
Unless ...... you can tell us where they might be available?
I will then provide a link to the aboriginal people who are paying interest on their loans so they can get a better deal.

By there way, where do we find "false" people of aboriginal descent?
Are these just people who lie about their heritage - perhaps greedy, freeloading white people who do not give a rats?

Look mate. I know a lot about real aboriginals, the wise ones. They know what is right and what is wrong. These people are respected. Then there's pretend indeginous people who jump on the band wagon for whatever reason.

For true aboriginals let them sort it out. For the false ones, well they're just freeloaders.

 

[crackaton]

It would be good if someone showed a link for all their crappy extra benifits... hmm they even get more dole money than the rest of us...

I don't think aboriginals are getting any sympathy from white or yellow australians until they are treated equally......... Eg an aboriginal can get into practically any course they want at university whilst other poor people go without.. until they become "australians" they get no sympathy from me!

Fairly narrow point of view there.

I respect aboriginals that care for the land. I have little time for the likes of you.

I also note that you included the yellow annotation. Will my little yellow friend learn to mingle more and mouth off less. It's not difficult. lol

 

[mista200]

The simple fact of the matter is ..... the government should treat all australians as australians and treat them equally.....until this happens its legislative racism...

30 years ago people were trying to hide their aboriginality nowadays people are trying to claim that they are "aboriginal" for the extra benifits....

its pathetic and the so called aboriginals should get over the "stolen" generation and realise that they are Australians.... just like the rest of us!

If i was aboriginal i would have loved to have studied law with a enter score of 50...lol

 

[crackaton]

The simple fact of the matter is ..... the government should treat all australians as australians and treat them equally.....until this happens its legislative racism...

30 years ago people were trying to hide their aboriginality nowadays people are trying to claim that they are "aboriginal" for the extra benifits....

its pathetic and the so called aboriginals should get over the "stolen" generation and realise that they are Australians.... just like the rest of us!

If i was aboriginal i would have loved to have studied law with a enter score of 50...lol

What does an enter score of 50 entail? Is that == an A+ average? LOL

You don't know sheit. You memorize verbatim and then expect to make it in the world out there. Any parrot can recite the psalms. When it comes to the crunch you have SFA. loser.

 

[mista200]

Crackaton ... my point is.. aboriginals get reserved university places....other races dont!!

Why? /.

racism at its best!

 

[mista200]

These benifits that "aboriginal " people receive don't help their cause..... they only make real australians less sympathetic!

 

[crackaton]

The simple fact of the matter is ..... the government should treat all australians as australians and treat them equally.....until this happens its legislative racism...

30 years ago people were trying to hide their aboriginality nowadays people are trying to claim that they are "aboriginal" for the extra benifits....

its pathetic and the so called aboriginals should get over the "stolen" generation and realise that they are Australians.... just like the rest of us!

If i was aboriginal i would have loved to have studied law with a enter score of 50...lol

here's the argument. Immigrant comes from overseas, perhaps russia, allegedly get knocked down while on bicylce as a tourist, claims compensation from our governement and uses money to live the high life. This sytem of ours is fraught with loop holes. It's like people just floating onto ours shores and getting the best treatment possible. Bugger geniune workers that has gone out the door long ago.

well i personally am fed up supporting useless lay abouts.

 

[crackaton]

Crackaton ... my point is.. aboriginals get reserved university places....other races dont!!

Why? /.

racism at its best!

What's the difference? Asian students pay for University degrees. Most can not speak a word of English. Where's the justice in that? Money speaks you may say? Well in todays society any dead head can get a degree. What they do with it who knows. Smart ones don't even bother with that BS anymore. What's the point?

 

[crackaton]

If you find a job/occupation/trade or vocation that you love then you persist with it to the highest level. It's called loving your work and you become proficient and the best in your specialty. These people always float to the top regardless of education or background. If you are unlucky enough to never find this then you just work. You can have a string of letters behind you name but does not always mean that you are good at what you do.

 

[mista200]

But that doesnt change the point that aboriginals can get into basically any course they want....because they are a so called "aboriginal"....

No cracaton asians as well as african and as well as uzbekistanis can pay their way throught UNI...it isnt legislative racism.... However giving aboriginals extra dole money is

How about we consider aborigianals as australians and no different from any other race that lives here!

 

[wayneL]

How about we consider aborigianals as australians and no different from any other race that lives here!

In principal, I agree. But the sad fact is, we don't treat them as equals. Yes they get extra benefits (it sorta irks my egalitarian tendancies as well), but the disadvantage of being aboriginal, surely outweigh that.

I live in a town where the indiginous population is about 7%... about 2500 people. About 100 of those are real troublemakers, the rest just ordinary humans trying to make their way through life as best they can. Yet the rest are regarded as if they were the worst 100. Racism is rife here, it's ugly - disgusting. I could tell you some stories...

The thing is with humans, is that they tend to live up to the reputation people give them. If the reputation is in the pits, deservedly or not, It becomes very diffucult then for that group to progress socially or economically.

I haven't a clue what the answer is, but equality cuts both ways. How about we treat them like humans... give them a hand up so to speak. Then we can stop the hand-outs.

 

[stockGURU]

How about we consider aborigianals as australians and no different from any other race that lives here!

How about we do that when they are no longer treated as second class citizens. Would you trade places with an aborigine for a few extra dollars of dole money a week? Something tells me you wouldn't.

I can't imagine the amount of prejudice and discrimination they must experience on a daily basis. Have some empathy and don't be so quick to judge.