Where is/can Donald Trump take US (sic)?

[wayneL]

If you fear the extreme right then why not campaign against the extreme right ?

Sounds a lot more productive than dissing the other political positions.

I fear both PZ. However from my point of view it is the extreme left which is far more dangerous at this point in time. It is this toxicity that must be neutralised, then we can deal with the others if necessary.

I do feel that neutralising the absurd left will remove the raison d'etre of the neo nazi right... job done on both counts

 

[IFocus]

I think he was being sarcastic.

Trying to be funny actually........epic fail I am afraid

 

[IFocus]

I fear both PZ. However from my point of view it is the extreme left which is far more dangerous at this point in time. It is this toxicity that must be neutralised, then we can deal with the others if necessary.

I do feel that neutralising the absurd left will remove the raison d'etre of the neo nazi right... job done on both counts

There was a time when the so called extreme left existed long ago in fact a very long time ago before our life times they were radicals, armed and dangerous working in cells to dismantle the middle ground, they no longer exist any where but this is what the extreme right look like today and do exist fertile ground for the rise of another Hitler should the extremes come together.

 

[moXJO]

There was a time when the so called extreme left existed long ago in fact a very long time ago before our life times they were radicals, armed and dangerous working in cells to dismantle the middle ground, they no longer exist any where but this is what the extreme right look like today and do exist fertile ground for the rise of another Hitler should the extremes come together.

Antifa .....

 

[wayneL]

There was a time when the so called extreme left existed long ago in fact a very long time ago before our life times they were radicals, armed and dangerous working in cells to dismantle the middle ground, they no longer exist any where but this is what the extreme right look like today and do exist fertile ground for the rise of another Hitler should the extremes come together.

The left, via the Fabian Society, habe eschewed the use of revolution in favour od " Gradualism" and I must say it had been working splendidly well for them...

...except they have impatient at achieving the toxic dystopia they so desire and have been pushing the envelope, hence purulent movements such as antifa as Mo noted.

In fact, it is the left that had initiated the violence, the right late to the party, only really surfacing in the last couple of years. Ergo, we have nobody to blame for the violent right, other than the violent left.

Watch..

 

[basilio]

He is a special man our Trumpy.

Seems like every one of the women who has accused him of assault/groping whatever are liars. I guess that means that anyone else who pops their head up with any similar accusation is, by definition, also a liar. Clearly whatever HE says is The Truth .

Of course the tape where he boasts of kisssing women at will and grabbing the by the pxussy " becasue when your famous you can do that " is what ? An empty boast ? Not applicable ? Never happened ?

I think a nice clear court case would help clear this up. And then a decent stretch in a cosy tent in Arizona.

All the women who have accused President Donald Trump of sexual harassment are lying, the White House has said.


When posed the question by CBS about the 16 women who have accused the President - and whether the official position of the White House was that they were lying - Press Secretary Sarah Huckabee Sanders said: “Yeah, we’ve been clear on that from the beginning and the president has spoken on it.”


Mr Trump addressed the accusations last week and dismissed them as “totally fake news...It’s fake, it’s made-up stuff. And it’s disgraceful what happens.”

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/w...te-house-sarah-huckabee-sanders-a8024136.html

 

[SirRumpole]

The left, via the Fabian Society, habe eschewed the use of revolution in favour od " Gradualism" and I must say it had been working splendidly well for them...

Personally I'm much more worried about the spiritual heart of the Liberal Party, aka the Institute for Public Affairs, the mob that believes that corporations should run the country, that consumers should have no rights, and that national interest be sacrificed at the altar of higher dividends and ROI.

At least the Fabians seem to believe that elected representatives should run the country, not hidden boardrooms.

 

[basilio]

I've been reflecting a bit on the monstrous situation of 16 different women slandering The President with totally untrue accusations of sexual assault. Worse than just these completely false accusations is the possibility that other people can come forward with similar untruths. After all what is there to stop them?

I think The President needs to be Presidential about this grave insult to the The President. Clearly if these women are lying they need to be bought to justice. I suggest they need to be :

1) Publicly identified to ensure we all know about these lying xluts.
2) Taken into protective custody.
3) Questioned until they make a full and complete retractions of their lies and public apology to The President and The United States

Given such a belated acknowledgment of their slandarous ways The President could offer a reduced sentence of 5 years jail. Of course if they refuse to acknowledge their lies they stand condemned of treason with 30 year plus sentence.

Thoughts ?

 

[SirRumpole]

Thoughts ?

Nah. The Yanks have just learned well from us Aussies. The tall poppy syndrome has spread.

 

[basilio]

Appropos to my previous posts I suggest The President should reinforce his moral position by asking every member of his Cabinet and The Republician Congress/Senate to echo his concern about the monstrous lies being told about him.

Clearly if they can't do that there has to be concern that they may also believe such shocking lies. Again a monstrous and treasonable act...

 

[IFocus]

Antifa .....

Wow thanks MoXJO never heard of them disappointing that they are really not about change but nice to see they are about fighting evil (fascist and racists ) I'll sleep much better knowing they (the good guys) are out there.
They even have a Perth Facebook page not that I will be joining

 

[wayneL]

Ah yes, the name calling of conservatives, racists, fascists, all to justify the violence and vandalism.

Then the shock when the real fascists come out to play.

You lot will deserve what comes. Wanna know how the f### Alternative for Deutchland got 18% of the vote?

Look in the mirror Komrades

 

[moXJO]

Wow thanks MoXJO never heard of them disappointing that they are really not about change but nice to see they are about fighting evil (fascist and racists ) I'll sleep much better knowing they (the good guys) are out there.
They even have a Perth Facebook page not that I will be joining

Yeah, a couple trained with my son when I was teaching mma/boxing.
It was hard to distinguish which side the fascists were on.

Thats the problem. These ain't good guys if their goal is to block the right (through violence) from having a voice. Its not the skinheads they are after, its anyone on the right.
But let it ride and watch nationalism rise.

 

[IFocus]

Yeah, a couple trained with my son when I was teaching mma/boxing.
It was hard to distinguish which side the fascists were on.

Thats the problem. These ain't good guys if their goal is to block the right (through violence) from having a voice. Its not the skinheads they are after, its anyone on the right.
But let it ride and watch nationalism rise.

Thanks for the comments Mo its a side of life I hadn't heard of.

 

[IFocus]

On blaming the left for the public rise of extreme right is a argument hard to agree with (could say straw man).

When you have leading public figures giving cover for such groups this leads to legitimacy in the US there is now is a long line on both sides of the divide condemning Trump in particular.

Trump and his ilk have no care about longer term consequences and no honor to the democratic processes rather just a dog style win at all costs which has been the Republican style from Newt Gingrich days but even those harden partisans are socked at how far the hard right has gone.

 

[wayneL]

On blaming the left for the public rise of extreme right is a argument hard to agree with (could say straw man).

When you have leading public figures giving cover for such groups this leads to legitimacy in the US there is now is a long line on both sides of the divide condemning Trump in particular.

Trump and his ilk have no care about longer term consequences and no honor to the democratic processes rather just a dog style win at all costs which has been the Republican style from Newt Gingrich days but even those harden partans are socked at how far the hard right has gone.

It's very little to do work Trump at all actually. The extreme right is rising right across the western world.

 

[SirRumpole]

It's very little to do work Trump at all actually. The extreme right is rising right across the western world.

Four Corners tonight on Germany's new Facists.

 

[Logique]

Trump's Twitter account temporarily turned off.

That's the way to win the argument leftists.

 

[basilio]

It's very little to do work Trump at all actually. The extreme right is rising right across the western world.

Very ably assisted by creative Russian troll factories creating a million false narratives which are picked up and amplified by Fox, Briebart and the Liar In Chief and swallowed by sheeple who can't think for themself.

Cheers!

 

[basilio]

Trump's Twitter account temporarily turned off.

That's the way to win the argument leftists.

No thats the way to (temporily) silence a totally deranged xxxxwit who also happens to be the most powerful and dangerous man on earth.