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Resisting Climate Hysteria
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Wysiwyg
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A glimpse of global cooling with parts of Europe experiencing record cold weather temperatures.
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Really Wysiwyg ? You actually believe that the cold snap in Europe is part of global cooling?
Somehow you have managed to miss the the relentless increase in temperatures worldwide that has accelerated in the past 3 years ?
Somehow you have managed to miss the the relentless increase in temperatures worldwide that has accelerated in the past 3 years ?
Same thing in Canada and North America with record cold temperatures and large snow falls.
I refer you to my posts #8914 and 8919.
You are being brainwashed by the UN Climate Change committee who distorting the truth about Global Warming..
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Just sayin'.
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Tisme, I tried to pick up in something in your link referring to "The hottest year of record for the world.
The link is mainly about Australia being the 4th hottest year on record in 2016.
We also had some record rainfalls broken which you failed to mention placing much of your emphasis on record temperatures....Was there any reason for that?
The record rain falls were as a result of the Dipole system in the Indian Ocean which has brought a lot of rain to the West, Central West, Western Queensland , South Australia and Victoria.
This the link I posted a couple of days ago which differs from your link.
It is hard to fathom why there can be so much variation from one report to another.
They both cannot be right.
NOAA is funded by commerce in the United States under Obama......I am not saying it is but it could also be a remote chance that NOAA could have been influenced by the UN through Obama....Whether that will change under Trump remains to be seen when Trump has threatened to pull out of the UN.
There has been some queer happenings in the USA in recent times...One thing that is mentioned is NOAA has tampered with reports exaggerating Global Warming.
https://realclimatescience.com/2017/01/no-global-warming-for-25-years/
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An interesting juncture
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Why that graph among the many alternatives? I thought the aove graph from the same website was more relevant as it includes the whole world.
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Got a median and mean representation?
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Heaps of options on the website woodfortrees.org
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That wasn't the point, rather that this massive acceleration as claimed a few months ago seems to be el nino induced and return to trend (whatever trend floats your boat). Just as the level heads expected.
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The last big El Nino was about 10 years ago wasn't it? I seem to recall it became a prominent name back in the early 80's when it bit really hard? So long as the air pressure over Darwin harbour is slightly greater than Tahiti this time of the year we should be sweet until the early 2020s.
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It's interesting how close the spikes relate. I agree, there is no obvious acceleration.
The warming is linear which makes sense. The new greenhouse gases only form a small proportion of the existing greenhouse gases the warming effect should be subdued. If we do see acceleration then we should all be very worried but I think that is unlikely.
Still a 1 degree rise ever twenty years isn't something to relax about.
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Many rest on the idea "that it has all occurred before". It hasn't.
"One of the most commonly used arguments against human-caused climate change is that Earth has experienced severe fluctuations in temperature over its 4.5-billion-year lifespan, so it doesn’t make sense to start freaking out about it now.
But while Boston was once covered in almost a mile (1.6 km) of ice, and the Arctic Circle was once so warm, palm trees and crocodiles populated it instead of ice and polar bears, what’s been going on over the past century is unprecedented.
Not convinced? Just check out the infographic below by Randall Munroe of XKCDfame.
Illustrating the rise in global temperatures from 20000 BCE right up to 2016, nothing makes it more clear just how insane things have gotten during the fraction of Earth's timeline that humans have been dominating.
As you can see below, in 20000 BCE, Earth was at the peak of the last ice age, and was 4.3 degrees Celsius colder than it was in the late 20th century.
That might not sound like much, but it made a huge difference - glaciers reached as far south as New York City, and our early human ancestors had to fight for survival.
But slight changes in Earth's orbit at around 18500 BCE meant some of that polar ice could finally be reached by more sunlight, and the warming period began.
Ice sheets start melting in earnest across the North and South Poles, and humans start to spread out and proliferate in the more favourable conditions.
https://mail.google.com/mail/u/0/#inbox/159aee6fad6f1915
Between 9000 and 8500 BCE - just before we domesticated cows for the first time - temperatures hit modern levels, and continue to rise.
For thousands of years afterwards, things start wavering around that middle line, and we see a big cool-down around the 15th and 16th centuries.
The 20th century happens, and then... BAM. Things get real.
Something else to keep in mind is that, regardless of what's happened before, we humans are incredibly sensitive creatures.
We struggled to survive when global temperatures were 4.3 degrees colder than the late 20th century average, and we'll struggle just the same if we let Earth warm by just 1 or 2 degrees in the coming decades - something that 2015 Paris Climate Conference attempted to draw everyone's attention to.
As Brad Plumer points out over at Vox:
"What’s most relevant to us humans, living in the present day, is that the climate has been remarkably stable for the past 12,000 years. That period encompasses all of human civilisation - from the pyramids to the Industrial Revolution to Facebook and beyond.
We’ve benefited greatly from that stability. It’s allowed us to build farms and coastal cities and thrive without worrying about overly wild fluctuations in the climate."
"One of the most commonly used arguments against human-caused climate change is that Earth has experienced severe fluctuations in temperature over its 4.5-billion-year lifespan, so it doesn’t make sense to start freaking out about it now.
But while Boston was once covered in almost a mile (1.6 km) of ice, and the Arctic Circle was once so warm, palm trees and crocodiles populated it instead of ice and polar bears, what’s been going on over the past century is unprecedented.
Not convinced? Just check out the infographic below by Randall Munroe of XKCDfame.
Illustrating the rise in global temperatures from 20000 BCE right up to 2016, nothing makes it more clear just how insane things have gotten during the fraction of Earth's timeline that humans have been dominating.
As you can see below, in 20000 BCE, Earth was at the peak of the last ice age, and was 4.3 degrees Celsius colder than it was in the late 20th century.
That might not sound like much, but it made a huge difference - glaciers reached as far south as New York City, and our early human ancestors had to fight for survival.
But slight changes in Earth's orbit at around 18500 BCE meant some of that polar ice could finally be reached by more sunlight, and the warming period began.
Ice sheets start melting in earnest across the North and South Poles, and humans start to spread out and proliferate in the more favourable conditions.
https://mail.google.com/mail/u/0/#inbox/159aee6fad6f1915
Between 9000 and 8500 BCE - just before we domesticated cows for the first time - temperatures hit modern levels, and continue to rise.
For thousands of years afterwards, things start wavering around that middle line, and we see a big cool-down around the 15th and 16th centuries.
The 20th century happens, and then... BAM. Things get real.
Something else to keep in mind is that, regardless of what's happened before, we humans are incredibly sensitive creatures.
We struggled to survive when global temperatures were 4.3 degrees colder than the late 20th century average, and we'll struggle just the same if we let Earth warm by just 1 or 2 degrees in the coming decades - something that 2015 Paris Climate Conference attempted to draw everyone's attention to.
As Brad Plumer points out over at Vox:
"What’s most relevant to us humans, living in the present day, is that the climate has been remarkably stable for the past 12,000 years. That period encompasses all of human civilisation - from the pyramids to the Industrial Revolution to Facebook and beyond.
We’ve benefited greatly from that stability. It’s allowed us to build farms and coastal cities and thrive without worrying about overly wild fluctuations in the climate."
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One meteor and ALL your theories are in the S Bend with the fluffy white paper ...
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/science/...ecame-extinct-could-not-hatch-quickly-enough/
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/science/...ecame-extinct-could-not-hatch-quickly-enough/
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What is the significance of 1950 Graph in that article. Particularly the red median line ticking up?
http://jonova.s3.amazonaws.com/graphs/lappi/gisp-last-10000-new.png
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If you read "The Sixth Extinction by Eleizabeth Kolbert" which I have referred to on this thread for over seven years you will learn that it has not occurred like this in the past. On the news rightn now that we are at the point of no return unless we reduce co2 output now'
