Resisting Climate Hysteria

[Tisme]

Pot kettle black anyone?



my bolds

Really!!? My post wasn't to you, but to someone else who does not appear to be in the conversation about a tragedy FTW.

I was there Trainspotter, going by your comments you weren't, so it's pointless to argue. The govt itself spent lots of monies to carry out forensics, an inquiry that was had because large numbers smelled a rat and still do.

It's a simple eqtn: 2011 had nearly the same volume as the big two 1800's floods, but the extent was wider. The 2011 flood had way more water than 1974, but the height was noticeably less with similar boundaries (more runoff). Done dusted, no more correspondence entered into, no facsimile thereof.

 

[trainspotter]

Really!!? My post wasn't to you, but to someone else who does not appear to be in the conversation about a tragedy FTW.

I was there Trainspotter, going by your comments you weren't, so it's pointless to argue. The govt itself spent lots of monies to carry out forensics, an inquiry that was had because large numbers smelled a rat and still do.

It's a simple eqtn: 2011 had nearly the same volume as the big two 1800's floods, but the extent was wider. The 2011 flood had way more water than 1974, but the height was noticeably less with similar boundaries (more runoff). Done dusted, no more correspondence entered into, no facsimile thereof.

Still not getting it are you Tisme. 2011 flood blamed on CC.

Q. What caused the 1893 flood then.

 

[explod]

Anyhoow, when the country was covered in forests heavy downpours were cushioned, cradled and to some degree absorbed more.

Stop all logging and plant more trees.

As I indicated the place is very different today to the 1880's so we cannot properly compare.

Heavy hail today in Darwin, record down pours in several places up north today. unseasonal record flood in the US a few days back. and these events are daily on our main stream news outlets.

 

[noco]

As I indicated the place is very different today to the 1880's so we cannot properly compare.

Heavy hail today in Darwin, record down pours in several places up north today. unseasonal record flood in the US a few days back. and these events are daily on our main stream news outlets.

It must be Global Warming causing it all....I explained to you what is causing all the rain...Didn't you read it?

BTW...where is Flim Flam Flannery these days...Has he gone into hiding?......Wish he would be brave enough to go on the Bolt Report...Andrew wants to ask him a few questions.

 

[Tisme]

Still not getting it are you Tisme. 2011 flood blamed on CC.

Q. What caused the 1893 flood then.

I think you are confusing what I was taking you to task on, but I shall take a teaspoon of my own and advice and move on.

The 2011 is an interesting study although the condensed version tends to focus on the conjunction of events in 2011 rather than considering the persistent rains during the previous year that were unusual and really annoying.

I'm not sure if I think the the floods are micro environment events within a larger pool, or if they are hysteresis effects from climate event overload, Milankovitch cycles, etc.

I remember when the Three Gorges Dam was filling, there were earthquakes, necessary fresh water runoff to the seas where monsoons are formed was reduced and therefore followed drought in the countries affected and the annual ice formation on the Himalayas was zip. If a dam can contribute to major climate events, I'm thinking places like destruction of the Amazon forests and basin must be a key driver too?

 

[Tisme]

Ice retreating in Antarctica a month early, catching inhabitants by surprise.

 

[noco]

Ice retreating in Antarctica a month early, catching inhabitants by surprise.

It must be Global Warming from burning all those nasty fossil fuels......We have to close down all those coal mine or else we will all perish.

 

[explod]

It must be Global Warming from burning all those nasty fossil fuels......We have to close down all those coal mine or else we will all perish.

finally you are onside noco.

 

[noco]

finally you are onside noco.

Do you want me to become a water melon man?......Green outside and red inside.

 

[explod]

Do you want me to become a water melon man?......Green outside and red inside.

Stand for the common people is correct.

Anyway back to topic:

Study warns that science as we know it is evolving into something shoddy and unreliable
Welcome to "the natural selection of bad science".
PETER DOCKRILL 21 SEP 2016

And on Antarctica, the warmth down there is sending more cloud north, hence increased rains. Its the displacement effect I have noted here many times but sceptics do not like common observations. They prefer the distorted science backed by the oil/coal lobby

 

[noco]

Stand for the common people is correct.

Anyway back to topic:



And on Antarctica, the warmth down there is sending more cloud north, hence increased rains. Its the displacement effect I have noted here many times but sceptics do not like common observations. They prefer the distorted science backed by the oil/coal lobby

So do you have a link on your wise Green information.

My youngest son is going down to Antarctica with the RAAF on the 24th October for 3 months and I be in regular contact with him to get some first hand reports on the ground or the ice.

He has already spent 6 months at Davis in 2010/2011.

So tell me Plod, why have the Greens been losing support from the common people lately?...They must be pretty worried about PaulIne Hanson and One Nation showing some dominance in the Senate....They walked out in tottoe during maiden speech and it did not look good with their immaturity.....Watch the up coming Queensland state election..How many seats will the Greens win over One Nation?

 

[explod]

So do you have a link on your wise Green information.

My youngest son is going down to Antarctica with the RAAF on the 24th October for 3 months and I be in regular contact with him to get some first hand reports on the ground or the ice.

He has already spent 6 months at Davis in 2010/2011.

So tell me Plod, why have the Greens been losing support from the common people lately?...They must be pretty worried about PaulIne Hanson and One Nation showing some dominance in the Senate....They walked out in tottoe during maiden speech and it did not look good with their immaturity.....Watch the up coming Queensland state election..How many seats will the Greens win over One Nation?

Yep, 'Science Watch", todays issue, its free and worth linking to your email for daily updates.

The Greens are far from losing support if you check the overall numbers. In fact very close to two new seats in the lower federal house, stopped only by Lib/Lab preferencing each other. But that will wear that down next time.

Hanson, struth, in fairy land. Many of the so called terrorist are kids looking for attention and the elder more serious migrated here from the terror created in their homelands by US aggression to protect oil rights. A lot of them lost Parents and families in these conflicts and we wonder why they are so aggressive and angry.

Mate John Kelly as official artist was there three years back for a whole season. We communicate regularly with circle he formed then. You made no comment on my post a month back on the lakes of water appearing for the first time across the top of the ice sheets.

Notice upcoming winter Olympic's facing problems of not enough ice and snow cover in Greenland. Of course as you clearly indicated, its happened before. Trouble is that was an isolated area back then created by weather currents being blocked, this time all the blockages have gone and the melt and warmth is everywhere.

No frosts here at Bendigo this year. Talking with an 87 year old farmer (a mate of my Dad's Brother actually) at a Red Cross meeting recently and he said he could not recall a winter like this. Cold, very wet, yet warmer in a strange way (his words). Lot of farmers are joining the Greens here in Victioria, not just the weather but fracking which threatens the water table.

 

[noco]

Yep, 'Science Watch", todays issue, its free and worth linking to your email for daily updates.

The Greens are far from losing support if you check the overall numbers. In fact very close to two new seats in the lower federal house, stopped only by Lib/Lab preferencing each other. But that will wear that down next time.

Hanson, struth, in fairy land. Many of the so called terrorist are kids looking for attention and the elder more serious migrated here from the terror created in their homelands by US aggression to protect oil rights. A lot of them lost Parents and families in these conflicts and we wonder why they are so aggressive and angry.

Mate John Kelly as official artist was there three years back for a whole season. We communicate regularly with circle he formed then. You made no comment on my post a month back on the lakes of water appearing for the first time across the top of the ice sheets.

Notice upcoming winter Olympic's facing problems of not enough ice and snow cover in Greenland. Of course as you clearly indicated, its happened before. Trouble is that was an isolated area back then created by weather currents being blocked, this time all the blockages have gone and the melt and warmth is everywhere.

No frosts here at Bendigo this year. Talking with an 87 year old farmer (a mate of my Dad's Brother actually) at a Red Cross meeting recently and he said he could not recall a winter like this. Cold, very wet, yet warmer in a strange way (his words). Lot of farmers are joining the Greens here in Victioria, not just the weather but fracking which threatens the water table.

I think if you do some checking, the Greens lost one seat in the Senate...What happened?:topic

 

[explod]

I think if you do some checking, the Greens lost one seat in the Senate...What happened?:topic

Agree, knew that, its the overall support that's important for long term and our national percentage averaged out did not drop. Think there was a slight gain in fact but will have to recheck with our local pea counter.

Unfortunately change takes time but one thing accellerating things for us is the growing disparity between rich and poor and the rising tide of Parliamentarians turning the other cheek because I think its too hard for left or right. Greens are a new evolving centre party.

Off topic

 

[noco]

Yep, 'Science Watch", todays issue, its free and worth linking to your email for daily updates.


No frosts here at Bendigo this year. Talking with an 87 year old farmer (a mate of my Dad's Brother actually) at a Red Cross meeting recently and he said he could not recall a winter like this. Cold, very wet, yet warmer in a strange way (his words). Lot of farmers are joining the Greens here in Victioria, not just the weather but fracking which threatens the water table.

Tell your old 87 year old farmer mate he won't get a frost while it is raining..But there again, I thought you would have known that.

Clear skies and dry air.

 

[explod]

Tell your old 87 year old farmer mate he won't get a frost while it is raining..But there again, I thought you would have known that.

Clear skies and dry air.

Of course we know that. Both old bushies and can tell the weather is changing dramatically, and news indicates across the entire globe.

 

[noco]

Of course we know that. Both old bushies and can tell the weather is changing dramatically, and news indicates across the entire globe.

You seem to have contradicted your pervious statement about no frosts in Bendigo until I drew your attention to it.

Having lived in Brisbane, I can remember my old lady hosing the lawn covered in frost early in the morning to stop burning the grass.

But as I have mentioned on previous occasion our weather is mainly due to activities of the Sun.

http://www.almanac.com/content/solar-activity-2016

I thought this link would be interesting reading for the Global Warming alarmist.....Enjoy the link.

 

[explod]

You seem to have contradicted your pervious statement about no frosts in Bendigo until I drew your attention to it.

Having lived in Brisbane, I can remember my old lady hosing the lawn covered in frost early in the morning to stop burning the grass.

But as I have mentioned on previous occasion our weather is mainly due to activities of the Sun.

http://www.almanac.com/content/solar-activity-2016

I thought this link would be interesting reading for the Global Warming alarmist.....Enjoy the link.

No frosts this particular year (2016) ole Pal, which the old fellow said he had not seen before. Bendigo is known for its servere frosts, jeez, remember my freezing fingers here as a kid. No contradiction, seems you may seek angles to shoot messengers.

And of course solar plays its part, always has. As well, overall the sun is cooling as is the earth. In fact on Science Watch the other day they say the sun is cooling exponentially much faster than previous studies had suggested. But against all of this the earth is suddenly warming and much faster than previously known. And there are lots of other causes too, but oil and coal pollution is one of the big ones. Of course with the perma frost melt we now have the added problem of rising methane release as well.

Not good

 

[noco]

No frosts this particular year (2016) ole Pal, which the old fellow said he had not seen before. Bendigo is known for its servere frosts, jeez, remember my freezing fingers here as a kid. No contradiction, seems you may seek angles to shoot messengers.



Not good

You missed the point young fellow......You raved on about no frosts in Bendigo this year but you had no idea why until I drew your attention to it.

What Victoria.NSW, Western Queensland and central Australia are experiencing with a very wet winter/spring is the influence from the Indian Ocean known as the DIPOLE....A system that takes place once every 11 years or so....

Now do you need any more convincing or are still going to be on a set mind?

 

[explod]

You missed the point young fellow......You raved on about no frosts in Bendigo this year but you had no idea why until I drew your attention to it.

What Victoria.NSW, Western Queensland and central Australia are experiencing with a very wet winter/spring is the influence from the Indian Ocean known as the DIPOLE....A system that takes place once every 11 years or so....

Now do you need any more convincing or are still going to be on a set mind?

Not only the old Chap but my Brother, Sister and other locals say that this season (winter) has been very very different here at Bendigo and district.

And calling me a young fella at 70 is not going to sway that. Your vehemence indicates where the set mind is lol.