Resisting Climate Hysteria

[OzWaveGuy]

.....This government and AGW supporters are taking us as fools.

They will be surprised at what good memories voters have when the next election eventually rolls around....

Sails, speaking of fools, if you recall, we briefly discussed a specific method to NOTICE some of those fools that push the corrupt carbon tax - since I will refuse to pay any carbon tax - I will therefore need some rationale to backup my claims.

Several of my Notices are with key government officials as we speak with one more to go to my local member. Happy to share if you like, PM me if needed.

 

[Smurf1976]

It's been reasonably warm here in Tassie too. It makes a nice chance - two weeks earlier there was ice still on the ground in the late afternoon.

It's weather, not proof of climate change.

 

[Julia]

Sails, speaking of fools, if you recall, we briefly discussed a specific method to NOTICE some of those fools that push the corrupt carbon tax - since I will refuse to pay any carbon tax - I will therefore need some rationale to backup my claims.

Several of my Notices are with key government officials as we speak with one more to go to my local member. Happy to share if you like, PM me if needed.

That's interesting OWG. Could you consider posting your Notices here so we can all benefit?

 

[Garpal Gumnut]

:sleeping:

We've been through this already 874,987,9876,642,094,252,857,474,126,85u times already.

Lord Monckton is in NZ at the moment and spent 2 hours on Newtalk ZB putting forth the sceptics case and interestingly, a history of AGW alarmism and retroactive editing of the 'science'; freely answering questions from callers, many of whom parroted the alarmist's line.

He made mincemeat of them.

His points:

There is no question that extra co2 = warming, sans other vectors. The question(s) are:

How much warming does it cause?

How much warming since the little ice age has it caused? Has it increased the already naturally warming trend?

What are the extraneous feedbacks... are they positive or negative in toto?

It additional co2 a negative for the planet, or a positive?

Should we try to negate any such effects, if any (whatever they happen to be, at this point indeterminate), or should we mitigate?

Are there other agendas being served by AGW alarmism?

++++++++

Warmists like to attack Monckton with ad hominem slur, but as he challenged today on the radio, please point out where he is wrong and allow right of reply.

Tonight in Townsville we expect a low of 13C.

It is 18C at the moment with a mild southerly, and it feels a bit cooler.

These are normal temperatures for Townsville, this time of year.

gg

 

[OzWaveGuy]

That's interesting OWG. Could you consider posting your Notices here so we can all benefit?

Sure. See below. This is to Greg Combet. After 21 days without a response I will send a "Notice of Default". I sent back the carbon tax sillyness that came in the mail with my notice.

View attachment Climate Change Notice example.doc

Note the format convention of how your name should appear in the notice - there are logical reasons, eg never use Mr, Mrs etc as you are standing under common law. Feel free to PM me with questions.

 

[Logique]

Seems it's all gone quiet on the ANU-Climate Scientists-Bunkered-Down-After-Death-Threats imbroglio. For anyone who has lived in Canberra and inhabited the halls of academe, this claim is as risible as it is confected.

In Canberra, the Labor-Greens stronghold, heartland of the People-Who-Know-Whats-Best-For-Us, a fashionable climate scientist is more likely to be borne shoulder high down Northbourne Avenue by the adoring populace, rose petals strewn in their path.

However go ahead Federal Police, and prove me wrong with some hard evidence.

Otherwise the only conclusion is - just another stunt in pursuit of a one-day headline, mixed with just a smidgeon of self-dramatization.

 

[Logique]

Well this guy is thinking outside the square anyway. His instincts were correct in working towards a low carbon future, but this wasn't the appropriate methodology. Follow the police directives please sir.

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/lifesty...s-in-his-kitchen/story-e6frfhk6-1226108213890
Swedish man caught trying to split atoms in kitchen AP From: AP August 04, 2011

"A Swedish man who was arrested after trying to split atoms in his kitchen says he was only doing it as a hobby.
Richard Handl overnight said that he had the radioactive elements radium, americium and uranium in his apartment in southern Sweden when police showed up and arrested him on charges of unauthorised possession of nuclear material.

The 31-year-old Handl said he had tried for months to set up a nuclear reactor at home and kept a blog about his experiments, describing how he created a small meltdown on his stove.
Only later did he realise it might not be legal and sent a question to Sweden's Radiation Authority, which answered by sending the police.

"I have always been interested in physics and chemistry," Handl said, adding he just wanted to "see if it's possible to split atoms at home".
The police raid took place in late July, but police have refused to comment. If convicted, Handl could face fines or up to two years in prison.

Although he says police didn't detect dangerous levels of radiation in his apartment, he now acknowledges the project wasn't such a good idea.
"From now on, I will stick to the theory," he said."

 

[Garpal Gumnut]

It is 22C in Townsville at present, a glorious day, some high cloud.

It was 11C overnight, chilly as expected for this time of year.

I have been away, anything happening with the climate alarm?

gg

 

[Sean K]

It is 22C in Townsville at present, a glorious day, some high cloud.

I'm at the Australian in Palmer St, GG. Come down for a beer.

Just watching a nice program about the Big Bang theory, etc....

What most scientists agree is that the Universe is expanding.

If that is correct, then surely climate throughout the universe will change one way or the other.....

Whether/weather we try to change it or not!

 

[Smurf1976]

Well this guy is thinking outside the square anyway. His instincts were correct in working towards a low carbon future, but this wasn't the appropriate methodology. Follow the police directives please sir.

Would anyone be concerned if I burnt some gas at home? Or oil? Or even coal?

Would anyone be too worried about me using solar power at home? Or a small hydro scheme on the creek over the back fence?

Nuclear fission is inherently far more dangerous than coal etc and no amount of claims to the contrary will alter this fact.

 

[wayneL]

From the "Weather Isn't Climate" file:

Climate scientist Georgina Griffiths of the National Institute of Water and Atmospheric Research said yesterday was the coldest day ever recorded in Auckland.


The temperature got up to only 8.2C - compared with the previous lowest high of 8.7C, on July 4, 1996.

The last time snow settled on the ground in the city was 1939. It fell to ground level at the airport in 1976.

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=10745421

 

[Knobby22]

I've got a new theory.
Christchurch has done something to annoy the gods.

"The cold snap also wreaked havoc further south including the quake-devastated eastern suburbs of Christchurch. Power was cut to hundreds of homes, mail postponed, schools were shut for the day and heavy snow made it too dangerous to drive on."

 

[Happy]

I've got a new theory.
Christchurch has done something to annoy the gods.

"The cold snap also wreaked havoc further south including the quake-devastated eastern suburbs of Christchurch. Power was cut to hundreds of homes, mail postponed, schools were shut for the day and heavy snow made it too dangerous to drive on."

No wonder why climate warming alarmists quickly changed their mission name to:
CLIMATE CHANGE

 

[Knobby22]

No wonder why climate warming alarmists quickly changed their mission name to:
CLIMATE CHANGE

There you go Wayne, classic example.

 

[Julia]

From the "Weather Isn't Climate" file:

I've got a new theory.
Christchurch has done something to annoy the gods.

"The cold snap also wreaked havoc further south including the quake-devastated eastern suburbs of Christchurch. Power was cut to hundreds of homes, mail postponed, schools were shut for the day and heavy snow made it too dangerous to drive on."

Thank you for the link to the snow in Christchurch Wayne. I've never, ever seen snow like that in Christchurch before. I remember the very occasional snowfall, but it was in calm conditions when the snow wafted prettily down and barely settled, in contrast to what seems like a wild storm on this occasion.

Knobby: yes, you'd think so, wouldn't you. As if the residents of Christchurch haven't suffered enough. Many are still living in makeshift accommodation.
I so feel for them.

 

[basilio]

Just saw an excellent program on SBS called Power Surge. Has a look at the types of energy technologies that can replace fossil fuels (or clean them up ) and meet future energy needs as well as reducing the CO2 in the atmosphere.

Some of the most eyeopening points

1) Seeing in physical terms the amount of carbon used by the average American family each year.

2 ) How advanced China is in developing solar cell technology.

3) Richards Bransons commitment to assisting development of carbon free energy sources. (and teh really pretty island hideaway he has..)

http://player.sbs.com.au/programs#/.../latestepisodes/playlist/Power-Surge-Full-Ep/

 

[Ruby]

Some of the most eyeopening points

1) Seeing in physical terms the amount of carbon used by the average American family each year.


http://player.sbs.com.au/programs#/.../latestepisodes/playlist/Power-Surge-Full-Ep/

Basilio, what do you mean by "the amount of carbon used" ?

(My bolds)

 

[sails]

Basilio, what do you mean by "the amount of carbon used" ?

(My bolds)

It often surprises me that posters who like to appear "scientific" seem to have huge difficulties in saying co2 - or carbon dioxide - that harmless stuff that gives life to plants and, in return, they give us life giving oxygen.

These same types of posters usually use screeds of cut and paste and usually links to their preferred science blogs or government funded "climate" scientists where it begs the question of conflict of interest.

But then, maybe Basilio was referring to carbon monoxide...

 

[macca]

Did anyone watch the SBS show The Tropic of Capricorn last night, got a great laugh out of it

It was made in 2008 and he was horrified that it had been a drought in the outback for 8 years and told all the graziers that it was climate change and they better get ready to sell up and move. One bloke said " Nah mate it is all just a cycle" but the presenter was adamant.

It hasn't stopped raining since, Lake Ayre is the fullest in living memory, floods everywhere LOL

 

[IFocus]

Its all good see below water inflow to WA water supply dams.......

Source WA water corp

The great Perth desert coming soon no wonder all the trees are dying.
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