Resisting Climate Hysteria

[Garpal Gumnut]

Knobby, there is a lot of commonsense in what you say, and I agree that both sides need to get rid of bias. See my previous post below....






These are excellent points. I think a lot of us who sit on opposite sides of this debate would actually find that we have a lot of areas of agreement when we break the issue into its different components.
(My bolds)

Wise words Ruby.

I am a member of the ALP, and the LibNats, and am considering joining Bob Katter's Australia Party.

One thing unites us all, a mistrust of the Greens.

At least Labor, the Conservatives and Bob, are not driven by religious sentiments and a "correct at all cost" mentality.

Wise heads need to steer us forward to a sustainable environment and economic future for our children and grandchildren, without a descent in to fascism.

gg

 

[trainspotter]

NOOOOOOOOOOOooooooooooooooooooooooooooo ...... this can't be true !!!!!!!!!

US scientists say the familiar sunspot cycle seems to be entering a hibernation period unseen since the 17th century, a pattern that could have a slight cooling effect on global temperatures.

For years, scientists have been predicting the Sun would by around 2012 move into solar maximum, a period of intense flares and sunspot activity, but lately a curious calm has suggested quite the opposite.

Read more: http://www.news.com.au/breaking-new...le/story-e6frfku0-1226075834854#ixzz0qu9QbwEj

 

[bbker]

NOOOOOOOOOOOooooooooooooooooooooooooooo ...... this can't be true !!!!!!!!!

US scientists say the familiar sunspot cycle seems to be entering a hibernation period unseen since the 17th century, a pattern that could have a slight cooling effect on global temperatures.

For years, scientists have been predicting the Sun would by around 2012 move into solar maximum, a period of intense flares and sunspot activity, but lately a curious calm has suggested quite the opposite.

Read more: http://www.news.com.au/breaking-new...le/story-e6frfku0-1226075834854#ixzz0qu9QbwEj

Bring on a Global Cooling tax!

 

[noco]

Bring on a Global Cooling tax!

Ok Nooo, not another big new tax!!!!!!!!!

 

[bbker]

Ok Nooo, not another big new tax!!!!!!!!!

Why not? We need more taxes to fund all these portfolios and ministers that keep popping up.

We need to be able to name one starting with each letter of the alphabet to ensure full bureaucratic efficiency!

 

[wayneL]

Why not? We need more taxes to fund all these portfolios and ministers that keep popping up.

We need to be able to name one starting with each letter of the alphabet to ensure full bureaucratic efficiency!

Why can't we just have a Minister For Everything... Like Russ Hinze. :

 

[sails]

NOOOOOOOOOOOooooooooooooooooooooooooooo ...... this can't be true !!!!!!!!!

US scientists say the familiar sunspot cycle seems to be entering a hibernation period unseen since the 17th century, a pattern that could have a slight cooling effect on global temperatures.

For years, scientists have been predicting the Sun would by around 2012 move into solar maximum, a period of intense flares and sunspot activity, but lately a curious calm has suggested quite the opposite.

Read more: http://www.news.com.au/breaking-new...le/story-e6frfku0-1226075834854#ixzz0qu9QbwEj

I wonder how the alarmists will handle this upsetting their version "settled" science?

How anyone in their right mind can think science theories on something as complex as our world's climate and other integrated systems is settled is beyond me. Already, here is now another factor with the sun that just might rain on their parade...

I don't think I'm a sceptic, just a realist...

 

[bbker]

Why can't we just have a Minister For Everything... Like Russ Hinze. :

And from one extreme to the other....

 

[trainspotter]

Why can't we just have a Minister For Everything... Like Russ Hinze. :

I would like to give his daughter a good Ministering of Everything.

This would certainly align the planets into making the Earths temperature cool. :

 

[noco]

Why can't we just have a Minister For Everything... Like Russ Hinze. :

Wow, YOU ARE giving your age away now to be back in Russo's days.

 

[sptrawler]

I would like to give his daughter a good Ministering of Everything.

This would certainly align the planets into making the Earths temperature cool. :

Well trainspotter, Kristy is his grandaughter and married some billionaire, so I don't think Geralton will cut it. LOL
However I do agree with your sentiments, not a lot of Russ in that.

 

[trainspotter]

Well trainspotter, Kristy is his grandaughter and married some billionaire, so I don't think Geralton will cut it. LOL
However I do agree with your sentiments, not a lot of Russ in that.

How did you know I meant his granddaughter? I might have meant his daughter? Does he even have a daughter? I don't know anymore. She may have married a billionaire BUT is she truly happy?

Anyhoooooooooo back on topic. Quite a bit of unseasonal rain has fallen on upper NSW of late. Considering in 2010 that 13.9% of NSW was in drought there seems to be quite a turnaround of late. I wonder what will happen to the weather/climate when we get the impending pole shift?

 

[moXJO]

How did you know I meant his granddaughter? I might have meant his daughter? Does he even have a daughter? I don't know anymore. She may have married a billionaire BUT is she truly happy?

Anyhoooooooooo back on topic. Quite a bit of unseasonal rain has fallen on upper NSW of late. Considering in 2010 that 13.9% of NSW was in drought there seems to be quite a turnaround of late. I wonder what will happen to the weather/climate when we get the impending pole shift?

Dude there is no rain unless labor tells you so. Didn't you listen to that speech about doom by drought.

 

[Logique]

...US scientists say the familiar sunspot cycle seems to be entering a hibernation period unseen since the 17th century, a pattern that could have a slight cooling effect on global temperatures.
For years, scientists have been predicting the Sun would by around 2012 move into solar maximum, a period of intense flares and sunspot activity, but lately a curious calm has suggested quite the opposite.
Read more: http://www.news.com.au/breaking-new...le/story-e6frfku0-1226075834854#ixzz0qu9QbwEj

Actually I've been pointing this out on ASF for some time. The work of Victorian scientist Kevin Long also backs this up. He studies sunspot activity and lunar/cosmic cycles.

http://www.thelongview.com.au/sunmoonclimate.html The Long View, page on June 2011
Key effects:
There is much evidence (including graphs and references below) to suggest that the currently diminishing SUNSPOT ACTIVITY is likely to trigger a Little Ice Age within a few decades.
13 years of declining average global temperature indicates that we are facing Global Cooling ... not Global Warming!

Also: http://www.iceagenow.com/Prepare_for...matologist.htm
Prepare for Ice Age Now, says top paleoclimatologist, By Terrance Aym, THE NEXT ICE AGE - NOW! 28 Mar 11

During a lengthy interview with Gelf Magazine, [retired professor of paleoclimatology at Columbia University] George Kukla explained: "What is happening is very similar to the time 115,000 years ago, when the last glaciation started.... Believe it or not, the last glacial started with 'global warming!'" A recent revelation by NASA and the ESA is that that the sun is going to fall into a quiet period for the next 30 to 50 years.

 

[noco]

I have been saying for months now according to Gillard's Labor Government, if you are againgst this stupid Carbon dioxide tax you are branded a CLIMATE CHANGE DENIER.

These 'GRUBS' keep brianwashing voters with their deceit, lies and propaganda. They would place Gobbles in the kindergarten in comparison to these rats.

It is a wonder Gillard has not tried to blame the recent earthquakes and volcanoes on climate change.

I would say without a shadow of doubt over 60% of people believe in climate change mainly attributed to the SUN.

NB. the alarmist have dropped the GLOBAL WARMING scare mongering since they found out the Globe is actually cooling. It is now CLIMATE CHANGE.

Rowan Dean, as per link below, spells it out in simple terms.


http://www.theaustralian.com.au/nat...l-denier-monster/story-e6frgd0x-1226075916732

 

[Ruby]

I have been saying for months now according to Gillard's Labor Government, if you are againgst this stupid Carbon dioxide tax you are branded a CLIMATE CHANGE DENIER.

Rowan Dean, as per link below, spells it out in simple terms.


http://www.theaustralian.com.au/nat...l-denier-monster/story-e6frgd0x-1226075916732

Great article! Exactly what I would have said myself - if I had the wit, vocabulary and creative writing abilities at my disposal!!

The "warmists" have to use that tried and true tactic of deflecting the venom back on to those who don't agree with them, because they can't back up their own argument. They then call us "climate-change deniers" when in fact I don't think anyone is denying the climate is changing. It changes all the time, and has been since the world began. Climate is never static.

 

[Happy]

Labor Party rhetoric took over the substance and science.

Same with anybody saying anything against some activities is called racist.

 

[bandicoot76]

Labor Party rhetoric took over the substance and science.
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unfortunately it doesnt matter what puppet political party is in power at the time, the situation remains the same, they are all being told what to do, and cannot resist even if they wanted to because 'we' have signed away all our soveriegn decision-making rights over to global institutions like the UN, IMF, WB, WTO...etc

abbot is enjoying a free ride on public opinion (on the carbon tax issue) at the moment but i have no doubt that if he was PM he would cave in to the intense lobbying pressure and do the same thing julia gillard did... promise no carbon tax then introduce one anyway! it is the way of all the spineless jellyfish we have as politicians, from all sides, to lie, cheat and con us!

its time to realise our whole political system is a joke! the whole Left Vs Right, labor Vs liberal system is so fake its akin to a WWF wrestling match... it serves to keep the people divided and distracted so as to maintain a stagnant and easily manipulated political status quo...

 

[sails]

...abbot is enjoying a free ride on public opinion (on the carbon tax issue) at the moment but i have no doubt that if he was PM he would cave in to the intense lobbying pressure and do the same thing julia gillard did... promise no carbon tax then introduce one anyway! it is the way of all the spineless jellyfish we have as politicians, from all sides, to lie, cheat and con us!...

And I have no doubt if Abbott tried anything so stupid, he would get the same cold shoulder from the electorate as Gillard is now experiencing...

And, what if the globe starts to cool? That will surely take away the excuse for such a nonsense tax in the first place.

 

[noco]

And I have no doubt if Abbott tried anything so stupid, he would get the same cold shoulder from the electorate as Gillard is now experiencing...

And, what if the globe starts to cool? That will surely take away the excuse for such a nonsense tax in the first place.

Yes I agree. The globe is cooling and the facts keep coming up on ASF AND THE MEDIA.