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At this point in time it is higly likely that the LNP coalition will win the next federal election in a landslide similar to that of the NSW Liberal National Party Coalition. All Tony Abott has to do is say nothing.

While Barnaby would make a viable leader for the LNP he will never be more than deputy and the NP votes will most likely not be required in the lower house.

All credit to Barnaby, he was the only outspoken pollie to take a stance of the RIO planned sell out to China.
 
Logique said:
Barnaby isn't the orator, but I like his political instincts, so good on you IF.
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I really like him too, but he lacks the gravitas to be even deputy leader. Remember what a stuff up he made as Shadow Finance Minister.

He has a great talent for reflecting what the ordinary person is thinking, and he's immensely useful to the party. I just don't think his personality is appropriate for any leadership situation.
 
Julia said:
I really like him too, but he lacks the gravitas to be even deputy leader. Remember what a stuff up he made as Shadow Finance Minister.

He has a great talent for reflecting what the ordinary person is thinking, and he's immensely useful to the party. I just don't think his personality is appropriate for any leadership situation.
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Julia, can you name one politician who has not made a stuff up during their term in office. Just because he makes one mistake, why should he be ostracized for ever and a day? I really don't agree with you that a man or a woman's personality has anything to do with leadership quality. One should not really comment until they prove themselves otherwise.

Barnaby comes across to me as a straight shooter who speaks his mind with a lot of sense but unfortuneatly this does not go down with a lot of voters who in many cases prefer a politician who puts out a lot of rhetoric and BS which the naive swallow hook, line and sinker. I know which politician I would prefer and that is one who does not lie or try to cover up mistakes.
 
And from Paul Kelly, no mean observer. Not all of Abbott's policies are to my taste, but it's unlikely Malcolm Turnbull could have '..sank Kevin Rudd and now Gillard is half submerged..'

The latte sippers don't like to be contradicted do they:
http://blogs.news.com.au/heraldsun/...bor_as_the_natural_labor_choice/#commentsmore
Abbott destroys Labor as the natural Labor choice - Paul Kelly
...Abbott’s deepest offence is to repudiate the orthodoxy of the progressive class on nearly every issue from climate change to boatpeople to Aboriginal policy to religion. Its response is pathetic - to depict him as a Tea Party-type extremist when, for most Australians, this sort of abstraction doesn’t work.
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Whatever people think of TA, Labor should board one of the refugee boats, as its own is slowly sinking.
 
So_Cynical said:
More like what the ordinary right wing, red neck nutter is thinking. :2twocents
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lol - that's rather rude. Are lefties actually so brainwashed that all they can spit out is some silly propaganda? Do they have trouble thinking for themselves?

When reading a post like yours, it can make people wonder if lefties have anything at all between the ears. And that would be unfair on the lefties who are above this sort of silly name calling and propaganda.

If your beloved labor government is so good, why not try putting forward your side? But perhaps there's nothing left to defend and all that's left is to put the other side down. But then that's good news for the approx 60% of Aussies who don't want this labor government anymore.
 
sails said:
Well, that's what he's telling us - but we will never know for whom he will vote when that day comes.

It seems labor can't get Abbott off their mind - and even Barnaby will do as long as it's not Abbott.

Am I reading it right, IFocus?
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Your right anyone but Abbott, but its still looking like we get Abbott as nulla has mentioned all he has to do is keep his mouth shut and he will get elected.

If we get to inside 18 months to the election and Abbott still there then Abbott will be PM. Ironically Abbott will be the best option for Labor going to the polls as he will limit a total land slide in the upper house.

Australians may want change of government but the polls keep pointing out they don't trust Abbott so he wont get the Senate.

Possible land slide in the lower house but I suspect the Australian people are not so blind to the fact that the coalition are a bunch of dimwits that cannot add up and the leadership hang around lunatics calling them ordinary Australians hence the Senate will be hung.


Best outcome is Barnaby moves to the lower house and becomes deputy.

I know its a cringe factor Barnaby being acting PM but honestly when Abbott starts getting loose Barnaby will stand up and say no this we know.

Here in WA it was the nationals that blocked Nazi type police laws that the Liberals put up (Rob Jonson, liberal, police minister Jeezzz don't get me started on that ********) the Nats actually had some excellent intelligent things to say why they block the bills passage and did so.

Australia will be depending on Barnaby
 
Australia will be depending on Barnaby[/QUOTE]

Anybody who leans toward 'the Enlightenment' is hoping he becomes deputy PM, the same way democrats are hoping Trump is the republican candidate for president.
 
How about Abbott as PM and Turnbull as treasurer?
Gotta keep that hate between the PM and treasurer alive.
 
moXJO said:
How about Abbott as PM and Turnbull as treasurer?
Gotta keep that hate between the PM and treasurer alive.
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Actually, moXJO, if they could mutually contain their dislike of each other, it would be quite a powerful combination. Two quite different personalities and two quite different sets of skills.

Mr Turnbull as treasurer would be infinitely more reassuring to a nation of lost confidence than would Mr Hockey, who felt obliged to ask the people which way he should vote on the ETS, so indecisive was he on the issue.:(
 
Julia said:
Actually, moXJO, if they could mutually contain their dislike of each other, it would be quite a powerful combination. Two quite different personalities and two quite different sets of skills.

Mr Turnbull as treasurer would be infinitely more reassuring to a nation of lost confidence than would Mr Hockey, who felt obliged to ask the people which way he should vote on the ETS, so indecisive was he on the issue.:(
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Abbott will never have Turnbull in any significant portfolio.

Australia needs a forthright leader without spin or past.

Tony Abbott is that person.

Forget the hasbeens.

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I hadn't thought of that combination but an Aussie hardliner like Abbott with Turnbull as the treasurer is probably quite good chemistry.
Not unlike a Howard on steroids and a Costello without the sneer.
Actually could work, I for one think it has a lot of merit. GOOD CALL. moxjo :D
 
Damn fine Budget Reply speech last night.

The 6mths paid maternity leave is a liitle too long to have my full support - some paid leave yes, but 6 mths? But overall I think Abbott's speech was well tuned and hit the mark.
 
Logique said:
Damn fine Budget Reply speech last night.

The 6mths paid maternity leave is a liitle too long to have my full support - some paid leave yes, but 6 mths? But overall I think Abbott's speech was well tuned and hit the mark.
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I didn't see all of it, but he seemed to come across very confident and his speech certainly shows he is listening to the concerns of the people. It was quite amusing to see Gillard and Swan with faces like thunderclaps. You could almost see the despicable look in Gillard's eyes as she faced Tony during his speech.

Oh and the new BER (Building the Entertainment Revolution for set top boxes) was a laugh...:D

Full text of Tony Abbott's budget reply speech
 
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