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IFocus said:
The thought an ex merchant banker worth 100 plus mill is a labor person defies the imagination IMHO.

Malcolm is far smarter than the rest of the front bench put together but he just isn't as politically savvy I think the Liberals will stick with Abbott and that's Labors best hope but Labor winning the next election even with Abbott still in opposition isn't a bet I would take.

If Barnaby moves house and becomes deputy leader I will be surely tempted to vote coalition............think of the tiles of the threads I could start.......hysterical.

Abbott and Barnaby has a ring don't you think.
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Yeah, the Labor Party refused Turnbull's entry into their party. They knew he would be more valuable to them in the Liberal Party.He is a Labor sympathiser in my view.
 
moXJO said:
To add Abbott has also converted the mining and steel workers against a carbon tax despite where union heads were trying to lead them. He was on the ground at these facilities doing the hard yards. I think it speaks volumes when some hardcore rusted on labor supporters back liberal

It's pretty obvious I'm not a labor supporter, but some of the things they were doing I did support.
Now I'm against almost everything that they seem to put together on the fly. I did have a massive rant I wanted to get off my chest, but just can't be bothered. Everyone already knows how crap this government is performing in every sector it touches. At no point have I ever worried this much about the direction government is leading us.
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moXJO, I have never seen anything like this since the Whitlam debacle - and I feel what we are seeing now is worse. Problem is the GG may have conflict of interest issues and unlikely to put a stop to this government.

I rarely used to post on political issues, but I have become increasingly concerned at the bad eggs this government seems to be scrambling. The broken promises of stopping the boats and no carbon tax in this term are clearly two whopping failures or were outright lies. IMO, both these issues are putting this country in danger both economically and our freedom. Ns Gillard would most likely not be PM if she had been honest, however, I think Aussie voters will show their displeasure when they can get to the polls.

I am concerned for my grandkids and can only hope that this government will be given a good licking at the next election. It will be tough going for an incoming government to try and unscramble these awful messes.
 
wayneL said:
Laurie Connell (an ex merchant banker) and Alan Bond were both active supporters of Labor in the WA Inc days.

Any other questions? ;)
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Extremely long bow which is being kind, neither were members of the Labor party and their support was for corrupt purposes only as we both know nothing to do with their political beliefs.

The result being both were put before the courts as was BB.........and continues to be
 
IFocus said:
Extremely long bow which is being kind, neither were members of the Labor party and their support was for corrupt purposes only as we both know nothing to do with their political beliefs.

The result being both were put before the courts as was BB.........and continues to be
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lol :)

The assumption being that political belief forgives corrupt purposes.

Vide, NSW Labor.

gg
 
IFocus said:
Extremely long bow which is being kind, neither were members of the Labor party and their support was for corrupt purposes only as we both know nothing to do with their political beliefs.

The result being both were put before the courts as was BB.........and continues to be
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Are you saying labor doesn't want Turnbull? Greens/labor voters seem to be more in love with him than their very own Rudd and Gillard...lol

Greens:
Rudd 54
Gillard 42
Turnbull 60 (+ however many of Hockey's votes would have gone to Turnbull*)

Labor:
Gillard 49
Rudd 49
Turnbull 54 (+ however many of Hockey's votes would have gone to Turnbull*)

*The labor poll only had two leaders and LNP poll had three. Without Hockey, his votes would have increased Turnbull or Abbott's percentages.


PS - these figures taken from the image a few posts before this one - I can repost image if you would like...:D
 
sails said:
Are you saying labor doesn't want Turnbull? Greens/labor voters seem to be more in love with him than their very own Rudd and Gillard...lol

Greens:
Rudd 54
Gillard 42
Turnbull 60 (+ however many of Hockey's votes would have gone to Turnbull*)

Labor:
Gillard 49
Rudd 49
Turnbull 54 (+ however many of Hockey's votes would have gone to Turnbull*)

*The labor poll only had two leaders and LNP poll had three. Without Hockey, his votes would have increased Turnbull or Abbott's percentages.


PS - these figures taken from the image a few posts before this one - I can repost image if you would like...:D
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It doesn't work that way Sails. A quick flag is that the numbers add up to more than 100%.

The Liberal and Labor leaders are considered in different questions.

I think the results of the Liberal leader question has more to do with the level that Labour and Green voters abhor Abbott, rather than their support of Turnbull.
 
derty said:
It doesn't work that way Sails. A quick flag is that the numbers add up to more than 100%.

The Liberal and Labor leaders are considered in different questions.

I think the results of the Liberal leader question has more to do with the level that Labour and Green voters abhor Abbott, rather than their support of Turnbull.
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Yeah, I know it doesn't add up to 100% and it wasn't supposed to as they are taken from two separate poll grids - I thought that was clear from the poll results I had already posted...:rolleyes:

Anyway, have reposted the poll results again below so that you can see that each grid adds up to 100%, however, it was still interesting that Turnbull polled so much more from greens and labor, albeit it in the LNP grid. And if Hockey hadn't been included, Turnbull would probably have polled even higher with greens and labor. Agree that it's because they don't want Abbott - which also tells us he is doing a good job of opposing much of the current nonsense (IMO!)...:D

As Calliope pointed out, it is the opponents of both parties that actually makes it look like Rudd and Turnbull are the favoured leaders of their respective parties, however that is not the story from their own parties. Although Labor voters were evenly split between Rudd and Gillard.


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I was at a meeting, webinar, last night, where Turnbull was offered Washington.

Its all about to be sorted.

Tony will lead the Liberal Party in to the Election later this year.

gg
 
What happened to Shirley Mac's boy friend Andrew Peacock thought he was the top man in Washington..
 
Garpal Gumnut said:
I was at a meeting, webinar, last night, where Turnbull was offered Washington.

Its all about to be sorted.

Tony will lead the Liberal Party in to the Election later this year.

gg
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OMG GG, I hope you are right. No better still, I hope it is sooner.
 
Logique said:
Times 2 on that Noco. And later this year couldn't come too soon for the country.
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Labors gone unless the Coalition blows up which is still possible but I think unlikely its looking like the back room faceless men of the Liberal party have put the muzzle on Abbott.

I have total disregard for Abbott if he is elected prime minister Australia is gone I mean really gone. He has proved this to many times.

But the only person in the Coalition to stand up to Abbott is the maverick Barnaby and it will be Barnaby's job to save Australia..........serious I am voting for him.
 
IFocus said:
But the only person in the Coalition to stand up to Abbott is the maverick Barnaby and it will be Barnaby's job to save Australia..........serious I am voting for him.
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Are you really serious? I think you're having us all on!:D
 
Julia said:
Are you really serious? I think you're having us all on!:D
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Well, that's what he's telling us - but we will never know for whom he will vote when that day comes.

It seems labor can't get Abbott off their mind - and even Barnaby will do as long as it's not Abbott.

Am I reading it right, IFocus?
 
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