Z1P & APT Prediction Competition

[barney]

That is most certainly OK. You have my permission.

Thanks @Joe Blow … Legend as always ... just put that 50 on ice for a few months lol ….

Given your accommodating persona ... If some clever bugger does actually pick the Stocks within 10 cents … I'll shout you the $50 for the defence fund anyway (I'll borrow it from my wife's secret stash which I obviously don't know about)

On @Knobby22 suggestion above …… excellent idea!

@frugal.rock there is still time to get a few more entries.

Given the "comp" doesn't close for a few months, delaying the entry criteria is no big deal … plus it is your idea and "Your Rules"!!

If you and Joe are ok, perhaps Knobby's suggestion (Share Price Guess Competition - Win Money with little work) could be implemented forthwith, and a couple of extra days added to the entry date so you get a few more punters on board??

I will still sort your Spreadsheet for you as promised, but bare in mind it will be no where near as colourful as @peter2 or @debtfree …… I'm old … Spreadsheets used to be for sleeping between before computers took over

 

[tech/a]

As we are looking longer term I'm looking
at Weekly Charts

Managed to get APT done
This is the most interesting of the 2
I expect to reach the target on the stock
I've suggested withing 6-9 mths. ($48-$50)
Although I placed 12 on the chart--I think its likely
to happen before 12 mths.

Z1P is more interesting but will have to wait.

 

[tinhat]

As we are looking longer term I'm looking
at Weekly Charts

Managed to get APT done
This is the most interesting of the 2
I expect to reach the target on the stock
I've suggested withing 6-9 mths. ($48-$50)
Although I placed 12 on the chart--I think its likely
to happen before 12 mths.

Z1P is more interesting but will have to wait.


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Hi Duck,

Are you bullish the market in general ( and does that matter to you)?

Are you looking at stocks like APT over a longer time frame for your analysis? How does volume play in the annotated chart you posted above?

I love weekly charts because that is a nice time frame for me. I'd love to look at only monthly as I often don't get time to look at weekly when busy but weekly is doable. I don't recall ever seeing a weekly chart from you before. Same VSA for a weekly for you?

 

[tech/a]

Are you bullish the market in general ( and does that matter to you)?

Yes and in the long term due to filters yes short term no.

Are you looking at stocks like APT over a longer time frame for your analysis? How does volume play in the annotated chart you posted above?

No its not one Im currently trading (APT) stocks like it yes sometimes in the short term.
Volume
Yes but over time I've come to look at it a little differently than conventional VSA on a Daily chart and on lower time frame charts.
For Longer time frame Im dealing with more volume and a larger crowd than i am in say a daily or Hourly time frame.
These longer time frames have a longer and stronger time horizon. You can see things clearer on the longer frame for longer term decisions.
Shorter time frames of course are easier to read in the contexts of the volume (and Crowd trading it) in and around that time frame.
To use a daily or Hourly Time frame to look at an instrument longer term is of no value. As is it of no value looking at a Weekly Chart to day trade!

I love weekly charts because that is a nice time frame for me. I'd love to look at only monthly as I often don't get time to look at weekly when busy but weekly is doable. I don't recall ever seeing a weekly chart from you before. Same VSA for a weekly for you?

Mainly because the topic has been shorter time frames.
Never looked at Monthly but have looked at 2 day and 2 week charts (out of the square).
When i say looked played with some research. 2 Week may suit you if you like the idea of monthly.
More bars and data to play with ----
If your looking at something 98% of others aren't then you "may"see things they dont!
This of course fits for many using lower time frames like 4 hrly.

Things to think about.

 

[frugal.rock]

@tech/a
Chart looks good, with thanks.

If @Joe Blow wants to change the thread name to something catchier, fine by me.
eg; "novice Vampire trader feeds on other traders knowledge wealth"
My suggestion is probably not suitable and may be misleading...or not...DYOR.

@barney has generously contributed to the potential "prize" gift pool. Conditions for Barney's bit in his post.

The entries can be open until popular opinion wants it closed I guess.
Maybe close of Australia day?

Good to see both stocks on the rise this week and more notably for me, zip getting back to its old tricks. Good luck to the holders.
Cheers.
F.Rock

 

[barney]

If [USER=1]@Joe Blow wants to change the thread name to something catchier, fine by me. eg; "novice Vampire trader feeds on other traders knowledge wealth" [/USER]

[USER=257]

[FONT=Arial][COLOR=#000000]Lol FR …… Vampire indeed!! You blood sucker you! …. not![/COLOR][/FONT]

[FONT=Arial][COLOR=#000000]I'm sure you know I know you know what I know you know;) Whatever that means.[/COLOR][/FONT]

[FONT=Arial][COLOR=#000000]Good luck with both APT and Z1P[/COLOR][/FONT][/USER]

ps no idea why the type went crazy again … happened a few times lately … at least its not GREEN!! lol

 

[barney]

Spreadsheet as promised ….. I actually learned about the ABS function in Excel so I'm cheering

Any chance of a couple more entries guys/gals?? I can assure you @frugal is not doing this for our advice cause he is already trading these Stocks with plenty of success

Can I twist your arm @tech/a ?? You said you might consider entering in @Joe Blow name … I know Joe would be happy if you won it for him

I know @Boggo and @tinhat have shown interest in these Stocks as well … Just throw a couple of numbers at me and I'll write you up …. the more the merrier and its all in good spirit

Obviously since we are trying to get as close to a final Stock price as possible, the LOWER the combined percentage of the "distance away" from both Stocks by the competition close the better.

Or to put it another way, the punter with the smallest Blue Bar in the graph below on the closing date gets the chocolates.

Clear as mud to me Any suggestions/improvements please feel free to speak.

(@bigdog has gone out hard searching for big moves by June. Will that pay off??)

 

[tech/a]

I’m pretty sure the winner will donate to Joe
My entry won’t make Joe wealthier.

 

[barney]

I’m pretty sure the winner will donate to Joe
My entry won’t make Joe wealthier.

All good … I had to ask

 

[Zaxon]

The "not a real competition" is as such;
Predict the opening price as at Friday 26/6/2020 for either or both;
Z1P - Zip Co Ltd and
APT -Afterpay Ltd.

The comp is closing very soon (I think Frugal was happy to wait a few more days till Australia Day??) so if you would like to throw a couple of numbers at me, please act fast

Z1P - 3.98
APT - 42.01

 

[barney]

Z1P - 3.98
APT - 42.01

Thanks Zaxon and welcome to the comp

As you have highlighted … Frugal has agreed to extend the entry dates till Australia Day 26th January so anyone wishing to throw their hat, or any other appropriate apparel in the ring, please do so (no undies please; its a family show)

 

[Zaxon]

Thanks Zaxon and welcome to the comp

Why thank you!

anyone wishing to throw their hat, or any other appropriate apparel in the ring, please do so (no undies please; its a family show)

Hat, boots, and spurs from me.

 

[barney]

Why thank you! Hat, boots, and spurs from me.

Whew!! No censorship required … excellent

 

[Austwide]

Based on a secret complex formula, results then multiplied by a Random Number and then a bit added or subtracted depending on the Tea Leaves in my cup, I come up with,

APT $36.10
Z1P $4.56

PS Please send my winnings straight to Joe.

 

[barney]

Based on a secret complex formula, results then multiplied by a Random Number and then a bit added or subtracted depending on the Tea Leaves in my cup, I come up with,

APT $36.10
Z1P $4.56

PS Please send my winnings straight to Joe.

Lol … excellent …..

All further entries may as well now cease lest they be relegated to relative insignificance ….

@Austwide has revealed his connection to the holy grail and has henceforth donated his future winnings to the great @Joe Blow

I suspect Austwide's real name is "Tim" We are in your awe "Oh great Tim" ….. Son of Joe!

 

[tech/a]

WEEKLY VIEW

Z1P



Sorry noticed tail should be Tale!!!
$4.80 is the number I have put on it if I had to!
But could fall anywhere in that range.

 

[frugal.rock]

Afterpay and Z1P on ABC news yesterday.
Obviously good for business.
Does ASIC really want to curtail the BNPL industry? Me thinks not, the code of practice will come in sooner or later.
The consumer groups make no comparisons to credit cards, wonder why? It's much easier to get into bad debt via credit cards, but let's not mention banks generally charge $20 for every $1000 cash advanced for the priveledge, then typically charge
over 20% interest also...
Stop press, new offer received from my bank, "Increase your credit card limit"... with a disclaimer that they don't know about your financial position...

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-01-...d-purchases-worry-consumer-advocates/11873572

F.Rock

 

[barney]

Competition Entries still open till Australia Day 26th January. (1 week today)

Welcome to @Austwide the most recent entry.

Current Entries as at today:

 

[Knobby22]

If the frog or the dog win, I will not be unhappy.

 

[frugal.rock]

Nice chart @tech/a much obliged. Lots of information to take in.
I note increasing volume on the last week or two. More noticeable on the daily.
Will have to keep the ear to the ground regarding any regulatory changes, which could impact things, however, I don't think anything will change rapidly in this area.
I suspect both companies are on top of what to expect in this regard also.
F.Rock