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Re: XAO Analysis

LOL but no disrespect nor offence intended

None taken


But my take on the elliot wave spruikers and readers of said patterns have the advantage of being able to change the "pivot " points on a daily

Not aware of any sprukers around at the moment on ASF but when they do turn up it tends to be a pack dog attack by various members including myself.

I have found EW to fail often like any other analysis but it can let the market come to you, when it holds up it can give a very nice where are we now insight to the market.

A general misunderstanding by users, purveyors, and those that comment generally is that its should be some how be infallible I never understand this.

I to was a skeptic (so was Tech BTW) years ago but had another go learning from Nick Radge which helped a lot.

basis using new fandango phraseology and numbers quoted until one day they might get it right

EW has been around for a very long time nothing new about it.

BTW support level broken today interesting to see if any follow through
 
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FWIW on EW

...it's no different to any other type of "pattern" trading. As long as it's used in a prove-disprove(to paraphrase Nick) manner and not as a strict predicting mechanism.

Also FWIW, there is a lot of wild swings in sentiment at the moment making it very difficult to trade any sort of pattern system in the normal way we're used to (IMO).

I've gone from being a strategist with a big map of the battlefield on a huge table, in a big cigar smoke filled room, pushing little models of armies and battleships around with sticks - to slipping on black clothes, blackening my face and sneaking around the jungle with an AK47 (don't jam up when they get dirty like the stupid m16) and my bayonet in my teeth, making a few raids, slitting a few throats and getting the hell away before "they" know I'm there.

This is guerrilla warfare as far as I'm concerned and the normal rules don't apply. :2twocents
 
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I to was a skeptic (so was Tech BTW) years ago

More so Gann. Always had a respect for Elliott as I kept seeing it in terms of waves and others useage.
Really couldnt get my head around the application.
Do now.

Gann is similar but still leaves me cold re application.
While Elliot will have a few "points of interest" Gann will have 30.
 
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WayneL said:
Also FWIW, there is a lot of wild swings in sentiment at the moment making it very difficult to trade any sort of pattern system in the normal way we're used to (IMO).

I've gone from being a strategist with a big map of the battlefield on a huge table, in a big cigar smoke filled room, pushing little models of armies and battleships around with sticks - to slipping on black clothes, blackening my face and sneaking around the jungle with an AK47 (don't jam up when they get dirty like the stupid m16) and my bayonet in my teeth, making a few raids, slitting a few throats and getting the hell away before "they" know I'm there.

This is guerrilla warfare as far as I'm concerned and the normal rules don't apply. :2twocents
AKA terrorist trading. :p:
 
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FWIW on EW

...it's no different to any other type of "pattern" trading. As long as it's used in a prove-disprove(to paraphrase Nick) manner and not as a strict predicting mechanism.

Also FWIW, there is a lot of wild swings in sentiment at the moment making it very difficult to trade any sort of pattern system in the normal way we're used to (IMO).

I've gone from being a strategist with a big map of the battlefield on a huge table, in a big cigar smoke filled room, pushing little models of armies and battleships around with sticks - to slipping on black clothes, blackening my face and sneaking around the jungle with an AK47 (don't jam up when they get dirty like the stupid m16) and my bayonet in my teeth, making a few raids, slitting a few throats and getting the hell away before "they" know I'm there.

This is guerrilla warfare as far as I'm concerned and the normal rules don't apply. :2twocents

LOL you might be interested in some cheap Russian hardware off the coast of Africa.......
 
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Didnt get any better.
Think we will get a very strong reaction particularly in the Financial sector.
The USD strengthened on the news sending the AUD lower.
I expect that resources will fair better in the next few days if not today.
I'm expecting a large spike down in just about everything.
 

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Re: XAO Analysis

Dunno Tech,

Though gold up a bit, copper and oil took it up the khyber.
BHP down -14.2% on NYSE.
 
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Dunno Tech,

Though gold up a bit, copper and oil took it up the khyber.
BHP down -14.2% on NYSE.
Falls like that make for fairly exhilarating trading as it’s difficult to control risk. If BHP closes 15% lower today what can traders do? Just frantically wave the 2% rule at market? :eek:
 
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ASIC banned short selling to solve this problem. Looks like they are going to have to ban long sellers now as well. :D
 
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Actually, l wouldn't mind betting the ASX suffers a strategically placed computer glitch this morning. Who’s going to bet against me? Winner gets a poke in the eye.
 
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ASIC banned short selling to solve this problem. Looks like they are going to have to ban long sellers now as well. :D

Heh They might just ban trading all together, for a few days, just like the Pakistians. Or disallow selling below a certain price or something.

What a bloodbath though! :eek: I was expecting a bailout cos Buffet was betting on it (with a few cool billion too). Not sure if he expected this or not, or is he expecting the first bill may fail and a second one will save the day?
 
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Actually, l wouldn't mind betting the ASX suffers a strategically placed computer glitch this morning. Who’s going to bet against me? Winner gets a poke in the eye.

Yeah and I bet you won't be able to get into Comsuck either.
 
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Dunno Tech,

Though gold up a bit, copper and oil took it up the khyber.
BHP down -14.2% on NYSE.

There is no doubt that everything will suffer from the end of the financial world as we know it---panick selling.

Falls like that make for fairly exhilarating trading as it’s difficult to control risk. If BHP closes 15% lower today what can traders do? Just frantically wave the 2% rule at market? :eek:

I have 2 long trades both in the resource sector. I will be pulling my stops.
Standing aside and watching for opportunity.---It will come. Sub $30 BHP---nice!!

Yeah and I bet you won't be able to get into Comsuck either.


Nothing surer.
Whatever the crowd is doing I'll be doing the opposite---mind you timing is important.
No that doesnt mean buying my brains out today---but it does mean watching carefully.
 
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