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Re: XAO Analysis

I'm broadly familiar with these arguments. There is another argument that because of these lags and political considerations, governments generally make things worse. Governments should make and enforce the rules, but not try to "tune" or "drive" the cycle.

However, the present situation is not an ordinary cycle.

lol, that other argument is exactly what I wrote. See the conclusive paragraph. But agreed, we are not in an ordinary cycle, far far from it and one reason I throw much seasonality out the window at the moment.

White_Goodman, yes, from an economics background. That being said, short-term, T/A is FAR more useful than any form of fundamental analysis.

Wayne, don't get me started on Financial Planners. After finishing Uni and working in my field, I went on to study a Diploma of Financial Services (RG146), and let me say, recieving good results at Uni, I never failed one piece of assessment. With the diploma, I went on in my assignment advising 'clients' that property and bank equities were NOT 'low risk investments', and to perhaps write covered calls against their bank stocks if they want to continue to hold for the longer-term. I also stated voluntary superannuation contributions were not the most 'effective' and 'efficient' form of investment for a couple to make. Needless to say, I was failed, options were too risky, bank stocks and property are traditionally 'low-risk' and hence, shall therefore remain so, whilst superannuation is the golden arches of financial advice. WTF!!!!! Also needless to say, I will never complete this rediculous diploma.

Other than that, agree with everything Wayne said. Not to mention, time in the market is all well and good, whilst you are in a period of industrialization and economic boom times. What macro or micro policies can really make much of a difference to economic growth/productivity, other than perhaps technological improvements? Add in an ageing population and soaring inflation, wiping out much nominal growth, what is left for the long-term? Golden era in the West is over IMO. Time in the markets mantra may be all but over and long-term investments and stockbrokers may be replaced by active trading firms, hence, a move towards hedge funds already.

WP, last sentiment pole I looked at and the one I actually find the most useful, had more bulls than bears at last weekly release.
 
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WP, last sentiment pole I looked at and the one I actually find the most useful, had more bulls than bears at last weekly release.

Which one was it?? Was it referencing Aussie market or US market? Can you post it?

Was also just commenting on Davo's comments more than anything.
 
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Which one was it?? Was it referencing Aussie market or US market? Can you post it?

I used lowrisk and tickersense (cheaper than Barrons ;) and I hear just as reliable).

I find tickersense a LOT more accurate and the only one I now use.
 
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Interesting site.
http://tickersense.typepad.com/ticker_sense/blogger_sentiment_poll/index.html
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Hmmm - the lead story on ABC news this evening - the stock market horrors.

Capitulation tomorrow anyone?
 
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That's the sort of pessimism that hints to me that we are approaching a market bottom of sorts. Not necessarily THE bottom, but probably a major one.

Sentiment and EW or even most other TA for that matter go hand in hand.

Then you'd be seriously misguided, or at least rather naive. My message on banks has been consistent for months, and I see no reason yet to change. This is like a python that swallowed a goat. So far, the goat is not even half way through, and we can't tell if the python will survive.

The basics of how banks make money has been severely and permanently damaged. I expect most of our banks to announce reductions in EPS, with further falls in price, before we see anything like a bottom.

TA can't tell you that, because the market as a whole hasn't worked it out yet. You can scratch a living momentum trading as the knowledge diffuses through the market, but you only get the leavings.

To make a serious killing you only need do 2 things. One, bet heavily against the market; and two, be right.
 
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You can scratch a living momentum trading as the knowledge diffuses through the market, but you only get the leavings.

To make a serious killing you only need do 2 things. One, bet heavily against the market; and two, be right.
I love it!! An expert in other peoples methods. So much so that he knows how much I scratch out. :cool:
 
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I love it!! An expert in other peoples methods. So much so that he knows how much I scratch out. :cool:

lol, If I don't understand or use it, there's no way it can work!:p:

Don't you know there's no such thing as a rich TA or day trader.:p:
 
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TA can't tell you that, because the market as a whole hasn't worked it out yet. You can scratch a living momentum trading as the knowledge diffuses through the market, but you only get the leavings.

To make a serious killing you only need do 2 things. One, bet heavily against the market; and two, be right.


Davo,

Unfortunately you are very wrong with those comments. Go to the link below and read the charts I posted on ANZ late last year, days before ANZ started this multi month decline. Not only did I trade the move(mind you I was not heavily against the market), but it was against a trend that had lasted for years, T/A WAS RIGHT PS: that trade did help heavily to my account.

https://www.aussiestockforums.com/forums/showpost.php?p=215962&postcount=49

Voodoo, fluke, lucky guess????? Or just taking a high probablility trade offering a good risk/reward.

More importantly we are coming into a historic low in the next few weeks IMO

Did your Random Walk analysis alert you that a huge decline was about to start? Of course not


Cheers
 
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Then you'd be seriously misguided, or at least rather naive.
Well, lump me in the poor misguided naive camp too. :eek: I agree with WPs sentiments there. Catch ya, gotta get back to the taxi...:)
 
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Ladies and gentlemen,

This is a polite reminder that this is the XAO analysis thread. All methods of analysis are welcome but please refrain from pie throwing regarding whose method is most valid.

Thanks,

ASX.G
 
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Thought it was something sinister with my CFD provider....

So, whats the go when someone fat fingers an order? Is it reversible? Or does someone gets into very very big troubles?
 
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What - they accidentally sold at $0.02 ??? WTF, I was confused at the dip myself but it's a little funny. Most traders have one bad stuff up, but a share like this at 2c, must have a useless broker!
 
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