Who Will Make The Best "New Opposition" Leader

[chops_a_must]

On the positive side (sic), Tony Abbott has thrown his hat into the leadership ring contest. He obviously has a "healthy" (sic) ego and regards himself in a different light to most other peoples opinions of him..

"DING, DING....and, the winner is?"



AJ

Ahahaha! Am I allowed to guess what his words will be after the vote is counted?

 

[numbercruncher]

So I wonder if "Im the man" abbot will Insult any dieing men or swear at women during the next election campaign ??


Dont you love how our esteemed Leader Ruddmeister heaped words of praise on poor old Bernie Banton in his victory speech ? that was awesome !

 

[chops_a_must]

Damn! Good point SevenFX. He seems to have all the right qualifications for the job. Certainly listens a lot and connects with the younger generations....

LOL

I don't know, I'd be worried about his economic policies. He doesn't even seem to have pants to hang his a*se out of.

 

[Julia]

Aussiejeff

You haven't got the Guy in this Suit Listed on your Poll... shame he has all the makings of a good leader...???? HB

Sorry if I'm being particularly stupid, but who are you talking about????

 

[SevenFX]

I don't know, I'd be worried about his economic policies. He doesn't even seem to have pants to hang his a*se out of.

Chops.

Which of Humphres policies don't you agree with, as he's promised nothing, and he's delivered nothing...

That gotta count for something. and as AJ said he connects with Generation X or Y or whichever letter describes the Little Ones.

SevenFX

 

[chops_a_must]

Chops.

Which of Humphres policies don't you agree with, as he's promised nothing, and he's delivered nothing...

That gotta count for something. and as AJ said he connects with Generation X or Y or whichever letter describes the Little Ones.

SevenFX

He's refused to answer questions, and even speak up about anything.

I'm sure there are laws about politicians having to wear pants.

Lol.

 

[skint]

After careful and extensive consideration, I feel the Liberals really have no choice than to resoundly endorse Mr Mark Latham as their new mesiah. No other person has worked so tirelessly in furthering the interests of the party.

 

[numbercruncher]

After careful and extensive consideration, I feel the Liberals really have no choice than to resoundly endorse Mr Mark Latham as their new mesiah. No other person has worked so tirelessly in furthering the interests of the party.

hahaha Hilarious.

 

[greggy]

Spot on...

Regardless of Liberal rhetoric about Labor being a one man band, the fact was the Liberals in 2007 were a one man band.... and they themeselves knew it, which is why Howard was never really told to go.

Unfortunately 2007 election came too early for Turnbull as he only joined parliament a term ago... I really do believe that if Howard did win, that handover in 2 years would not have been to Costello, but to Turnbull.

I think Turbull will make for an excellent opposition leader, and who knows, some day an excellent PM.

He is a multi millionaire, progressive, liberal (small L liberal), not the conservative, divisive, right wing liberal that chracterised and stained the reputation of liberal party since 2001.

Mr Turnbull is a moderate within the Liberal Party and will make a fine leader. He's also a republican. A self-made millionaire who is genuinely interested in tax reform with emphasis on reducing taxes primarily at the lower end of the tax brackets. He's also progressive on most issues. He once considered running for the ALP and is good mates with numerous ALP figures. If allowed by Mr Howard, he would have been greener on most environmental issues. Privately he wanted us to sign the Kyoto agreement and had grave concerns in relation to the Tassie pulp mill. Infact, based on Saturday's figures, he got 30% of the Green's preferences, quite high for a Liberal candidate. Julie Bishop should be elected as deputy. She's down to earth and was a pretty good minister.
With a leadership team like this and if they take the party back towards the political centre with sensible policies, they might well win my vote back at the next election.

 

[ithatheekret]

What about Hill ?

 

[greggy]

What about Hill ?

Hasn't Hill left Parliament? Hill was a small "l' liberal who served his country well.

 

[Broadside]

Hasn't Hill left Parliament? Hill was a small "l' liberal who served his country well.

who is Hill?

I would like to see Petro Georgiou get a shadow ministry, maybe immigration or Aboriginal Affairs, he has a heart (so did Mal Brough I reckon, he is the loss I am saddest about).

 

[explod]

Hasn't Hill left Parliament? Hill was a small "l' liberal who served his country well.

Yep, over the hill. Turnbull is my pick but as the Libs will be in the wildreness for at least 10 years the whole thread is probably a waste. We need to be analysing matters labor.

 

[Aussiejeff]

Sorry if I'm being particularly stupid, but who are you talking about????

Hahaha. Julia, look behind the HB link in that post .... "there's a bear in there..."

LOL

AJ

 

[Aussiejeff]

After careful and extensive consideration, I feel the Liberals really have no choice than to resoundly endorse Mr Mark Latham as their new mesiah. No other person has worked so tirelessly in furthering the interests of the party.

Priceless....

ROFLMAO

 

[Aussiejeff]

Yep, over the hill. Turnbull is my pick but as the Libs will be in the wildreness for at least 10 years the whole thread is probably a waste. We need to be analysing matters labor.

On the contrary, explod. We are due a bit of hilarious entertainment after so many serious years.... better not close the thread JUST YET!


AJ

 

[explod]

On the contrary, explod. We are due a bit of hilarious entertainment after so many serious years.... better not close the thread JUST YET!


AJ

Yeh good point; and come to think of it the smirk on Costello for the last 10 years may have been that of incredulous disbelief that they got away with it for so long.

 

[2020hindsight]

http://www.theage.com.au/articles/2004/07/30/1091080440525.html

Hill defends his record
By David Wroe, Penelope Debelle
July 31, 2004

For years a staple of American political life, the issue of draft dodging yesterday entered Australian politics when the war record of Defence Minister Robert Hill was called into question.

Senator Hill admitted he had been called up in September 1966 but said he was given a deferral because he was studying law at the time and was later exempted on health grounds.

Brian Deegan, the father of Bali bombing victim Josh Deegan and an independent candidate for Foreign Minister Alexander Downer's seat of Mayo in the federal election, yesterday accused Senator Hill of sitting out the Vietnam War.

Public records show Senator Hill's birthdate was drawn on the national service ballot in September 1966.

His biography on Federal Parliament's website shows he was studying law at the University of Adelaide at that time.

He then travelled to London in 1968 to study.

He returned to Australia to work as a solicitor in 1970, when national service was still active. It was cancelled by the Whitlam government in December 1972.

Senator Hill, who has overseen Australia's military involvement in Iraq, told The Age last night that when he finished his studies, "I presented myself" to the recruiting authorities.

"They rejected me, on health grounds," he said. Asked what these grounds were, Senator Hill said: "That's my business".

Asked by Channel Seven news whether he dodged the draft and on what grounds he deferred, he said: "Well, I deferred during my studies, that's true".

At the Adelaide launch of a book dedicated to the loss of his son, Josh, 22, in the Bali bombings, Mr Deegan said not one member of the federal cabinet had been remotely near a war.

"Worse, where were two of Australia's senior Government ministers when their party had voted to go to Vietnam?" Mr Deegan asked at the South Australian Press Club. "Where did they sit out Vietnam?"

The second minister Mr Deegan referred to is understood to be Mr Downer, but records show his birthdate was not called up for national service.

Mr Deegan said his brother had volunteered to go Vietnam - which he called an illegal, immoral and illicit war - while two senior ministers had been absent.

"They were not in Australia, I can assure you of that," he said. "They sat it out in Great Britain until finally Gough Whitlam stopped that debacle and brought the troops home."

Mr Deegan said later he was not accusing the ministers of draft dodging because he lacked information to support that.

"I am saying that people who so easily set about a war should really have experienced it themselves," Mr Deegan said. "Maybe they would think twice."

In the 1960s, Senator Hill's father, Murray Hill, was a leading Liberal politician in South Australia. From 1968 to 1970 he was minister for local government and transport in the Steele Hall government.

In the United States, Republicans who have dodged the draft during the Vietnam War have been dubbed "chicken hawks" by their opponents.

President Bush avoided the draft by joining the Texas National Guard. Vice-President Dick Cheney was called up for military service, but followed a similar course to Senator Hill.

Interview with Senator Robert Hill prior to going into Iraq :-

http://sunday.ninemsn.com.au/sunday/political_transcripts/article_1081.asp
nterview: Defence Minister Robert Hill
June 16, 2002

With Prime Minister Howard promising full support for America's plan to attack terrorists wherever it finds them, Defence Minister Robert Hill talks about what that means for Australia's armed forces and our commitment in Afghanistan…
TRANSCRIPT

REPORTER: Good morning, Jim.

Senator Hill, welcome to Sunday.

ROBERT HILL - FEDERAL DEFENCE MINISTER: Thank you, Laurie. Good morning.

REPORTER: Are you expecting more calls on Australian troops?

HILL: We're not expecting more calls, we've said that if we are asked to assist at a further theatre then it would be considered at the time of the request and on the merits of the individual request.

REPORTER: Well, if America decides to go into Iraq do we have enough SAS soldiers to handle that operation as well?

HILL: Well, that's a huge leap. If the US decides on a military action in Iraq and it asks us for assistance, the question is ... would be what sort of assistance, what role could we appropriately play. It might involve forces on the ground, but it might not.

REPORTER: Now, there's no doubt that we would be involved, is there? When Mr Howard was in Washington he gave a pretty firm impression that he'd go along with anything the Bush administration wants.

HILL: I don't think he said that, but what he has said is that we're committed with the US and other Coalition partners to continue to defeat the infrastructure of terrorism in order to significantly reduce its threat. ... etc

 

[2020hindsight]

"Chickenhawk" by Roy Zimmerman

I agree with Brian Deegan ( father of Bali bombing victim) - Only politicians who have been to war should be permitted to vote for a preemptive attack on another country. (paraphrased) (IMO)

At the Adelaide launch of a book dedicated to the loss of his son, Josh, 22, in the Bali bombings, Mr Deegan said not one member of the federal cabinet had been remotely near a war.

https://www.aussiestockforums.com/forums/showthread.php?p=205903&highlight=zimmerman#post205903

never been remotely near a war ( other that when others are doing the fighting ....

 

[2020hindsight]

from poetry thread #660

If you give me that damned “King-is-dead” word
I’d say that that doesn’t make sense!!
"how-else-can-the-peasants-be-fed” word
what the heck? “Long live the Prince??”
and nobody mention this new word
(I just heard whilst out on that ledge)
this "Regicide" (haven’t a clue!) word
cos my name - do you HEAR - is still REG!!

.........
as to whether (King John) this is personal
or this power thing's arguably tidal
10 years wed for better-or-worse-an-all - sheesh
if you walk then it's not "regicidal"!!
I hope you don’t mind this, your highness
when recalling this all later on
with Robin of Benalong behind us
can we then call you... just ... Little John?.